Same reason he was obsessed with signing Harry Maguire for 80m. They’re yes men. Keep up.
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Joel Glazer is a yes man? To whom?
If appears to me the poster might be a tad embarrassed by their thoughtless initial post that got torn to shreds and are now trying to save grace by going for the common 'enemy', the Glazers. We're not removing the Glazers so what's the point of anything?
Maybe he's convinced Poch can finally make Martial "United's Pele".
Potential line up under Pochettino 343
De gea
Varane. Maguire Shaw
Dalot DM Fred Telles
Bruno Ronaldo Sancho
Style:
1)High press
2)Front three narrow interchanging positions and using third man runs.
3)Rigid Midfield for recycling the ball and covering for the pressing forwards and fullbacks
4) Wingbacks giving width to the attack, essentially playing as old school wingers, press high up the pitch.
5)wide centers being quick and agile to defend wide territories vacated, center backs expected to be able to carry the ball and play diagonals in the build up phase.
De gea
Varane. Maguire Shaw
Dalot DM Fred Telles
Bruno Ronaldo Sancho
Style:
1)High press
2)Front three narrow interchanging positions and using third man runs.
3)Rigid Midfield for recycling the ball and covering for the pressing forwards and fullbacks
4) Wingbacks giving width to the attack, essentially playing as old school wingers, press high up the pitch.
5)wide centers being quick and agile to defend wide territories vacated, center backs expected to be able to carry the ball and play diagonals in the build up phase.
No. Poch and Maguire are yes men. And AWB. And any other bad signing Joel Glazer dictated we sign after playing FM. It’s also why Phil Jones got a new contract. Yes men. Only one who isn’t a yes man is Jose. Jose was a yes man until it became clear after spending 90m on a Pogba he wanted gone within 18 months, 30m on a mikhitarian he replaced with the 400k a week Sanchez who he wanted gone instantly, 30m on a bailly he’d replaced with a 30m lindelof who he wanted to replace with a 60m Maguire and the 80m he’d spent on Lukaku that it was impossible to succeed under such conditions after they only gave him a 50m Fred to go alongside his 40m matic. Yes men. Can’t succeed.
If they sign Poch and if the shite hits the fan they know they are going to be in deep trouble because of the fans. If they sign ETH and if the shite hits the fan, then they would be in less trouble with the supporters.
Yeah. Like when the Internet went into meltdown because Ronaldo was going to City. Listening to online fans is definitely a great way to run a club.
I think the people desperate for ETH would be skating the board for getting him, they wouldn’t likely be prepared to admit they got it wrong.
It's not what I think, it's the lack of faith United even know what a process is.
The learning is exceedingly incremental. It is at times barely noticeable but it is there. At some point in the future most will finally have come to except that things will never improve and will only instead become irreversibly worse.
Advantage of Porch
1) cheaper rebuild: he could incorporate the majority of players especially the ones under contract into the way he wants to play, some like Bruno or Fred wouldn't need to change much to suit Pochettino.
2) Longevity: he wouldn't be going anywhere till he is sacked, he was once fancied by Madrid while he was at Tottenham but preferred to stay (if my memory serves me right.
3) Style of play: contrary to what a lot of people say, his teams play good football, he would be pragmatic...but you can't call him a defensive manager.
His sides are known for their high press and at at Tottenham he utilized very attacking wing backs/fullbacks.
In all this I admire Ten hag football, but I feel the board might feel it will be too expensive to build considering no one knows how far he can take us.
1) cheaper rebuild: he could incorporate the majority of players especially the ones under contract into the way he wants to play, some like Bruno or Fred wouldn't need to change much to suit Pochettino.
2) Longevity: he wouldn't be going anywhere till he is sacked, he was once fancied by Madrid while he was at Tottenham but preferred to stay (if my memory serves me right.
3) Style of play: contrary to what a lot of people say, his teams play good football, he would be pragmatic...but you can't call him a defensive manager.
His sides are known for their high press and at at Tottenham he utilized very attacking wing backs/fullbacks.
In all this I admire Ten hag football, but I feel the board might feel it will be too expensive to build considering no one knows how far he can take us.
I am not sure incorporating as many of our current players as possible is an advantage. Personally I want a manager in that will clear out as many of the current players as possible.
Yep. The sweeping narrative would change and goalposts moved
Well, I get the lack of faith and frustration that has built up under Woodward and the Glazers but that's too far for me. It appears to be a fairly standard recruitment process from the outside.
So why have anyone else ? Why cant Joel Glazer run the club?
Did Joel Glazer scout AWB, Maguire, Fred?
Joel Glazer is saying, you can spend up to x amount, its then up to others to decide how to spend it, not Joel. If you think this is the case, then truly we do not need another employee other than a manager.
Murthough and Richard Arnold will decide on the manager, Joel Glazer will OK it. The fact is they owners do not scout players, that is a fact.
If I presented 5 RB's to Joel Glazer, AWB, and 3 others, do you think they will have a clue who any of them are? No.
So what? It's not our job as fans to make the right calls and we certainly don't get paid the big bucks to do so.
Do people have sympathy for the boards of other billion-dollar businesses when they get it badly wrong again and again and then get criticised and sacked? The answer in case you're wondering is No and rightfully so.
This whole notion that the fans would somehow be responsible for Ten Haag failing (if we even appoint the guy) is absolute lunacy. How many times has our board of incompetents failed in the past ten years without consequences. But now if the fans get this one choice wrong they're apparently hypocrites and trying to shift the blame.
Maybe if our business club had a strategy, conviction and the right people to execute these things like City or Liverpool, we wouldn't be in this position of being known as the headless chicken of superclubs in Europe.
Thing is us fans aren’t so much idiots. Over the last 10 years we’ve made the right call when to sack the manager that wasn’t working. Board were always too late. Also Pep and Klopp hires were of course going to work out. They were top tier. Honestly the only hire that didn’t work out which was surprising was AVB. Right now there’s an obvious choice in Hag. We need to just make moves.
Looks fantastic.
That the difference between a fan thinking and someone in the boardroom.
You don't want to be spending a penny I you can save it.
Plus clearing out doesn't necessarily means better coming in.
As far as the board is concern Ten Hag hasn't proven himself to be Pep (yet), and is no better than Poch at this stage, if hiring him will mean a more expensive project, they'll rather take Poch who is mostly likely to make it work with a Fred or Mctominay, have in mind United probably only fancy buying two major signings and maybe one cheaper one this summer.
A lot of Glazer apologists in here. Why do people think bankers know more about football than football fans that eat, sleep and breath the game?
Can we make it a blanket rule on here that ten Hag is referred to as ten Hag? Not Hag. It's really irritating.
Your constant negativity is draining. What’s the point in even supporting the club?
Ok but I didn’t say any of that, all I said was that the people who are adamant ETH is the one would likely try to pretend they never did if he comes and isn’t successful. I don’t think we have any influence over who the next manager will be, which is probably for the best.
And my point was that if they did, it doesn't matter. They pay their money for someone to make the decision and have the right to criticize either way.
This is like saying that if you voted for a political party, you don't get to criticise. As it stands, Ten Haag is the best candidate.
So you don’t think it’s funny if people say they want ETH, and then say it was stupid to get him if it goes wrong? Fair enough but I disagree, I think it’s weird to not be able to admit you got something wrong, it’s okay to laugh at yourself. I was pro Ole, got that badly wrong, not a big deal.
It's the best way obviously. Twitter fan polls for all new manager and player shortlists. Who needs scouts and recruitment teams and guff like data analytics?
The pure point on people flip-flopping makes sense.
It's just that I think if he fails, it would be a bit more nuanced and likely due to the fact he wasn't allowed go build the team in his image.
Maybe, or maybe he won’t be good enough seeing as it’s a big step up.
I've noticed it pop up quite a lot on here recently. It's been slowly grating on meWho’s been referring to him as “Hag”?
Who’s been referring to him as “Hag”?
I’ve been reliably informed from a good source he prefers Haggy.
I think it's more a concern about the people who are hosting the interviews, rather than the process of an interview itself. I could interview someone for a position in a cricket club but when I don't know the first thing about cricket, what good would the interview be?
It still amazes me why people are so hung up with Pochettino. I'd rather bring Solskjaer back. It has to be a fully backed Ten Hag for us to move forward. I just hope the board get it right this time.
So if rumors to be believed,
Luis Enrique is out of the equation (we already knew this) because of the World Cup.
Poch would require decent amount of compensation to psg, and would have to wait until the end of the season which is contradictory to them wanting to wrap this up soon so they can plan the summer.
Ten hag already interviewed.
Lopetegui is the only one left..
by all accounts it makes the most sense to go with Ten hag, and even taking out all the factors, it should be between Ten hag and Enrique.. I hope we do the right thing for once.
Luis Enrique is out of the equation (we already knew this) because of the World Cup.
Poch would require decent amount of compensation to psg, and would have to wait until the end of the season which is contradictory to them wanting to wrap this up soon so they can plan the summer.
Ten hag already interviewed.
Lopetegui is the only one left..
by all accounts it makes the most sense to go with Ten hag, and even taking out all the factors, it should be between Ten hag and Enrique.. I hope we do the right thing for once.
Thank you for your feedback. It's as useless as the people running the club. But spin it however makes you comfortable to get through your day.
What the Hag is the problem? I've used it multiple times on here haha
If we go for Poch I think we should accept that we will be out of the elite for a long long time.
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