Does sound good, but when you open the article he is covering all angles with Poch and even Tuchel, so yeah, nothing exclusive there.
But, it does feel like we will go for him. Probably the reason why Luckhurst made the article while being bored.
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Does sound good, but when you open the article he is covering all angles with Poch and even Tuchel, so yeah, nothing exclusive there.
But, it does feel like we will go for him. Probably the reason why Luckhurst made the article while being bored.
I'm really hoping the club go for the Ten Hag man! Just so this song can become a terrace chant....
I'd have liked Pochettino if we were functional but as is we need a strong system manager who will bin all these tactical buffoons in our first team. No one can see the future but just feel Poch would try to make it work and learn the hard way like Rangnick did just how poorly suited some of these players are for winning football. Certain anyone who can't execute detailed instructions will fail in ETH's style, the sooner the better to start binning them. Not just the easy targets too, even the biggest names here have huge question marks over their heads.
"We don't know who the sporting director is"
What the feck? Can anyone explain to me how not even ex-Man United player pundits acknowledge the existence of John Murtough? It's the same on here. It's so fecking weird. Crazy stuff.
And why isn't there basic fact-checking on this from, say, the anchor? How are they just sitting there spouting blatantly counterfactual BS?
Thing I like about ETH is his no nonsense aproach to squad selection. He doesn't play favorites at Ajax.
Just look at Tagliafico, a focal point back in 2019 and now is just a mere squad player. Look how he called out Antony for only performing in big matches or how he benched Granverberch when he was underperforming.
We definitely need someone to return us to the meritocratic way SAF used to run the club, not this he is too big to be benched bollocks we had the last couple of seasons. Let's hope ETH can do that.
How reliable was he last few years?
He was first to talk about Varane to United around March 2021. I think he got a few other things right as well.
He broke the Ragnick story to us ahead of everyone in England.
He also said we were looking to sign Varane back in Februrary. He also has a couple of duds.
He's usually reliable, but not Ornstein level reliable.
Highly reliable mostly on the money first one to go big on Varane to United quite early in the summer and rightly called Amad to United amidst failed Sancho's chase previous summer as well.
Hm, depends will he have freedom/balls to do that here. What do you think why Jose, on his first press conference, brought list of youth players who he "promoted" during his career? Because we demand that certain amount of academy players must be in team. I guess same goes for players who are club project or who are payed a lot (losing value and shit like that).
Thanks guys. Damn, i forgot on that. I remember that he was pretty reliable during Jose era.
He reached the CL final with PSG. That's two finals in a row. I'm not even for Tuchel at all but how is his Chelsea CL triumph an outlier when he almost achieved the same feat the season prior? Who do you expect to beat Pep and Klopp among our prospective appointments and what timeline do you have for it to come to fruition? I keep asking this with no answer
This pleases me. Absolutely prefer him over Pochettino
I don't doubt that we will have certain "marketing" players that need to feature, but a lot of them have already lost their goodwill with both the board and the fans.
The problem was that during Ole's era these players got too much power, like too too much. Jose for all his faults had a clear idea of what needed to be done.
It's the way he did it that made crap hit the fan. If he wasn't such a passive aggressive prick who threw players under the bus, he might have lasted a bit longer.
ETH is a disciplinarian who actually loves playin the youth, but he's not a nutter like Conte nor is he jaded like Jose.
Plus I imagine he will get way more support this time around with Ragnick and Mortough, whereas Jose had to deal with Woodward...
If ETH and Ajax don’t want to announce it because they are in a title race?
Only 2 points ahead for that matter. Even if it happens there's no way he's risking bombing dressing room morale announcing he has one leg out the door. We need to be patient on the news front. We aren't the only club involved. Talks will be had but it might not be leaked to us.
Scholes seem so out of touch whenever he speaks about United. It seems like he reads from pre written script.
Yeah. I want Ten Hag and to play Pep football, but to me Tuchel is a better Pochettino. Not wedded to one formation but smart and progressive enough.
Also was the first to break the story that Ole was gone.
EtH has proven to play a very progressive and flexible type of football, as evident with his time at Utrecht and Ajax. He's learned a lot about detail from Pep during their time together at Bayern and it's clear he's done it at Ajax. He would have the most forward thinking, analytical, and team-oriented style that mirrors Rangnick's overall philosophy.
When Rangnick is able to have full blown discussions with the football people and board, I think the United brass will be shocked at how much development is needed in many places if the club were to model a more efficient and self-sustaining football model of which Ralf has successfully built. Hiring managers and buying players without a clear, consistent identity of some sort has really destroyed the club in terms of their potential to challenge for major silverware.
For this type of reclamation project, need to go full EtH.
When Rangnick is able to have full blown discussions with the football people and board, I think the United brass will be shocked at how much development is needed in many places if the club were to model a more efficient and self-sustaining football model of which Ralf has successfully built. Hiring managers and buying players without a clear, consistent identity of some sort has really destroyed the club in terms of their potential to challenge for major silverware.
For this type of reclamation project, need to go full EtH.
"even when its a mess" 
They deliberately talk BS.
Completely disagree, every team has injuries. Two players out out a squad of 25 isn't enough to moan about derailing a season. He could have adapted and gone to a 433 until Jan then Azpi wouldn't have been an issue and you could have got a left wingback in Jan, if you wanted. But that put out Rudiger who proved he can't play in a back four, only a three, and gives Silva problems one on one when facing pace. Also why didn't Tuchel fight harder to keep Livramento in the summer, if you effectively only had one right wingback in James? Although he is just a coach and the decision to sell him is above him, why wasn't he advocating to keep Livramento and sell Azpi if he was that bad he couldn't replace James and only had one year left on his contract. Also why didn't he advocate harder for Broja? And who thought Lukaku was a good idea after he showed how one dimensional he was with us in the PL? So why bring him back for such a high fee?
Tuchel had used a 433 at PSG and Dortmund and knows it so well, it's not like Conte where wingbacks is the only system he uses and he's lost if he changes it. Tuchel blamed the injuries and you drifted from miles ahead, to way off. Yes, you have steaded the ship now James has come back but you won't win the title this year. I'm not attacking Chelsea or Tuchel here, he's a good manager. I'm saying that Tuchel isn't on a level above the other managers we are linked to as some are saying on here in the last few days. I don't think he reacts very quickly or well to change. He fell out with people at Dortmund after an inconsistent season and got himself sacked. The same at PSG. There's a pattern. The same will probably happen at Chelsea in a couple of years.
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ETH bookies favourite now (Paddy & Betfair)
It's still tight though, 13/8 to 5/2 (Poch)
It's still tight though, 13/8 to 5/2 (Poch)
The point I was making is that Tuchel is no better a candidate than EtH, Enrique or even Poch for us. There has been a narrative on here for the the last couple of weeks that he is. Just like the similar posts on Simeone and Conte before him, it was being suggested that somehow he's better suited to the players we have and he on a level above as a manager than the others. The same level as Pep and Klopp. He isn't and neither are Simeone or Conte.
We are are in deep sheet, with a lot of over priced players, on too high wages and none of the managers we can get are guaranteed to work. I disagree that Tuchel, Simeone or Conte are better than the above three in terms of suiting us and will definitely bring sucess here if we can somehow get one of them out of Spurs, Chelsea or Atletico (with the ridiculous wages Simeone's on and why would either Spurs or Chelsea let them go). You can make a decent argument for any of the managers we are linked to but none are as good as Pep or Klopp who are a level above or as good as Hansi Flick or (this season aside) Nagelsmann. Attacking, winning football.
For me I just want to enjoy watching football matches again and say wow sometimes. I want to go home happy instead of spending 90 minutes screaming at the players or the manager as has become more and more the norm since Fergue left. I'll happily take EtH whose Ajax side l jealously watch or continue with RR until Enrique is free in Jan, out of the ones listed and just hope to see some good football and get back the love of the game, I used to have.
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Hopefully, this means he and the club have a fairly realistic expectation of what is to come. It should be about rebuilding the club."even when its a mess"
Fact is most of these ex-players (and ironically the most outspoken ones) use their old outdated knowledge about the club. That's why they keep talking about United way as the ultimate solution to everything, they will go around analyzing this and that but if things still don't work out? United way to the rescue. What they don't realize is that they are now ancient and probably has an activity like golfing or feeding aquarium fish to keep them busy. And when they asked their children "what is Forth Night? is that a new band?" they didn't think their dad is cool at all and told him to go back feeding fishes.
Have thought for a while they will be after ETH. As have said before many times they really don’t want to piss the fans off. They want to give us customers what we want. The train wreck we are is because there is so much emphasis on the brand and monetising it. That leads to a haphazard management of the club in general, but they’re not just gonna ignore that over two thirds of the fanbase on one of the main Utd forums want ETH. They will be trying, I’m certain of it,
Make no mistake, people in Europe know we're a joke as much as anyone in England.
This is good in a way, so he doesn't expect to come into a competently run workplace.
I find it hard to listen to any of the ex-players. Sure, they clearly have passion for the club and know a lot of football trivia but I can't think of one that has a managerial brain.
We are one of the biggest clubs in the world though… that doesn’t mean we’re the ‘best’ theres a difference. The new managers expectations should only be to try and make us return to the best.
I would like Ten Hag purely for his coaching ability but have concerns over his ability to manage such a big club.
The safest option for me would be Ancelotti and those dismissing him over his time at Everton.....it was fecking Everton. Look at what he is doing now with a good but not great Madrid side. Carlo would manage egos and play good football and he has won everything and everywhere and to me the closest you can probably get to a Fergie father figure as a manager and someone players respect! Would he leave Madrid though? Probably not.
The safest option for me would be Ancelotti and those dismissing him over his time at Everton.....it was fecking Everton. Look at what he is doing now with a good but not great Madrid side. Carlo would manage egos and play good football and he has won everything and everywhere and to me the closest you can probably get to a Fergie father figure as a manager and someone players respect! Would he leave Madrid though? Probably not.
Haha. Let's hope ETH is good in the market.
In regard to ten Hag, it’s his personality as much as his coaching ability. I’ve watched a few interviews with him, his understanding of the player-coach dynamic makes him ideal for us.
Good to see Brenton now 40/1 …should be 1000/1
Careful he doesn’t win the Conference, it may tip the odds back in his favour knowing how our incompetent board operates.
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