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Think there's too much history, would be akin to Gerrard or Lampard managing us. Just can't see it.
I think everyone on the continent knows our board are incompetent, to be fair.
Would be typical for our board to have 6 months to find A manager and then suddenly waste more time because Tuchel ’might’ be available end of May. Then as a result missing out on Poch and ten Hag after being told Tuchel isn’t available.
Absolutely not, feck that team and feck simeone. He’a a shithouse and an absolute cnut.
You also forgot how we would’ve done zero work in the transfer market either leaving us further behind. We are an absolute joke.
Good point, Roll on a few desperate deadline day bids.
seasons a write off, get the new guy in now. and play the promising kids. 9 league games, then well have a much better idea of what we have.
We're going to hire Poch, not because we have a vision, or we think he's the right fit, but because he'll most likely be available in the summer.
We appointed RR not because we have vision, but because he was available. We didn't sign Conte not because we compared the pros and cons of signing him and decided it's not worth it, we didn't sign him because we were reactive in sacking Ole, not proactive when Conte was available.
The club is run by lazy incompetent people, it runs throughout the entire club now, has trickled down to the players who don't care anymore, most of them anyway.
Poch, ETH, or Zidane, nothing is going to change till we terminate everyone at the club and hire people on competence and not sentiment/nepotism.
We appointed RR not because we have vision, but because he was available. We didn't sign Conte not because we compared the pros and cons of signing him and decided it's not worth it, we didn't sign him because we were reactive in sacking Ole, not proactive when Conte was available.
The club is run by lazy incompetent people, it runs throughout the entire club now, has trickled down to the players who don't care anymore, most of them anyway.
Poch, ETH, or Zidane, nothing is going to change till we terminate everyone at the club and hire people on competence and not sentiment/nepotism.
Rangnick wasn't available unless you mean that anyone wanting the job is available. He was under contract.
I hate to be pessimistic, but the likelihood is that whoever is the next permanent manager probably won't last more than 2 seasons and we'll be back to square one. The club is a shambles and it won't change until changes are made at the top as well.
Predictable bullshit.
some absolutely mental shouts in this thread, fair play
we've just made a bunch of changes at the top though?
we have a new CEO, a DOF, and Rangnick as advisor
We get the next one wrong and we become a midtable side for the foreseeable future
Of course they're checking the latest result all the time and base their decision on that which means it changes almost every week
None of these appointments fill me with confidence. Time will tell.
The summer will be interesting. I genuinely struggle to think of many players in our squad that are worth keeping if we have aspirations of winning league titles again. That's a big IF. I think the owners would be happy to be a top 4 club but we're not even that anymore.
I'm not convinced by either Pochettino or ten Hag so if Tuchel was to become available I'd be happy with him, the problem is that will drag this process out even longer and yet again we'll be playing catch-up in the transfer market.
In terms of Poch I think he's clearly not as bad as many seem to suggest but there are obvious doubts about him. Managing PSG isn't easy but if he's unable to turn around their mentality with world class players then he's not likely to be able to do it here either.
With ten Hag, I haven't seen Ajax since their CL semi against Spurs so I can't say I know too much about him. There just seems to be a feeling that he'll come in and solve our problems when in reality he's unproven and could easily be a massive flop.
In a choice between the 2 though I think we have to go with ten Hag. Both are a gamble, Poch is probably the safer option but has likely peaked at a top 4 level whereas we just don't know with ten Hag. Might as well take the risk, what have we got to lose?
In terms of Poch I think he's clearly not as bad as many seem to suggest but there are obvious doubts about him. Managing PSG isn't easy but if he's unable to turn around their mentality with world class players then he's not likely to be able to do it here either.
With ten Hag, I haven't seen Ajax since their CL semi against Spurs so I can't say I know too much about him. There just seems to be a feeling that he'll come in and solve our problems when in reality he's unproven and could easily be a massive flop.
In a choice between the 2 though I think we have to go with ten Hag. Both are a gamble, Poch is probably the safer option but has likely peaked at a top 4 level whereas we just don't know with ten Hag. Might as well take the risk, what have we got to lose?
Think people want ETH with the hope for better football and that the club can be restructured. Agree that PSG is not the job to judge Poch by, but the worry there is what effect the PSG job has had on his confidence. This club needs a manager confident in his own ability and a good communicator with his players.
I dont know who we get. I really dont want Poch. ETH has looked promising - Ajax looked technically and tactically ridiculous against Dortmund but would he adapt? I also have a feeling we could end up with Hasenhutl
Just do something new, god damn. We tried this washed up managers for the past 10 years, it never worked. Let's re-start, but this time properly. The big challenge is obviously to improve our squad - we have such a shitty, mismanaged squad, that will be tricky to improve. But then ETH might be the one to develop some youngsters
Where are all the available top class managers after Pep and Klopp? Surely one out there is available and is salivating at the thought of the United job? Also we should really forget Tuchel, he ain’t coming here to manage us after Chelsea which even Rangnick said so himself when asked about it
We have to go after Ten Hag, but I’m concerned he wouldn’t want anything to do with the toxic mess that United have become.
Some of the suggestions last couple pages aren't grounded in reality, Emery, Southampton manager, prob missed couple others
As it stands I’d go for Ten Hag, Just because there’s a punchers chance that he could end up being the sort of manager we’re after. Poch… I’m not one of those who think he’s a joke. I’d be very happy to see him at Old Trafford I just feel like I know what we’ll get with him. Which will be good but not that good.
I have big doubts about Ten Hag. He won't have the same level of professionalism above him. He isn't very charismatic by all accounts and it's hard to judge anyone by the work they've done in the Dutch league. However beggars can't be choosers right now. Fact is there aren't that many top class managers available at the moment. There's two managers out there who are perfect for us but one is at City and the other Liverpool.
I have big doubts about Ten Hag. He won't have the same level of professionalism above him. He isn't very charismatic by all accounts and it's hard to judge anyone by the work they've done in the Dutch league. However beggars can't be choosers right now. Fact is there aren't that many top class managers available at the moment. There's two managers out there who are perfect for us but one is at City and the other Liverpool.
Ajax fans seem to feel like somethings on the horizon...
Haven't seen much blame for their defeat aimed his way either, they dominated the play but individual errors did them in in the end.
Tuchel's been very coy about his future recently, can't imagine Chelsea would make it easy to prise him away but if there's a chance the club should definitely kick those tires
Not a fan of tuchel style. He is a cup manager so I expect, he will win us trophy here, but I rather we play with swagger and have control of the game as seen with poch who is only second behind pep in the most possession and passes(and has a dynamic philosophy) or ten hag whose philosophy is similiar to a possession oriented philosophy. I remember the poor spell of games Chelsea had under tuchel this season as well. Chelsea played some dire football then. Moreover, he couldn't win the league in France in his last season. So I have some question mark over him.
Just hire Luis Enrique and announce that Ralph will continue as manager until Enrique finishes with Spain in January after World Cup or summer 2023 if it takes that long. I've no issue with Ralph staying in place till then and I'm sure he can collaborate with Enrique in the meantime regarding who Enrique wants to sign etc.
Assuming Enrique wants to come, this would be my preferred option.
Assuming Enrique wants to come, this would be my preferred option.
If you look at the Ajax vs Benfica result it simply came down to the Ajax players being unable to finish their dinner, writing Ten Hag off is fecking stupid. As for Tuchel, I don't like how Chelsea play under him but unlike Puppettino he has a spine so I'd take him if it's one or the other.
Who are the sources for all this manager rumour crap? "We have 5 names" - yes, 5 names that anyone and their granny could pick from European football. No news whatsoever. Yawnfest from Jamie Jackson as always.
If Tuchel is the new number 1 target, then I am encouraged by that. Would show a ruthlessness and a desire to get the absolute best man for the job.
Appreciate that source is shit though. Was that the guy who reported Bruno and Pogba bumped into each other in training and both got injured based off a spoof website?
Appreciate that source is shit though. Was that the guy who reported Bruno and Pogba bumped into each other in training and both got injured based off a spoof website?
None of them have a clue but they'll keep regurgitating the same nonsense for the next 3 weeks and beyond.
Changes at the top have been made. The Glazers aren’t going anywhere but those within the club have been made and we don’t know how this will translate.
If the need regime believe in a re-build ahead of statement purchases and we can address the poor recruitment, then this club has every chance of turning this around. We spend money, we pay big wages and we have the infrastructure - we just need to spend it and use it wisely.
Sounds like Chelsea are going to have some pretty wealthy owners so I don't think Tuchel is remotely realistic. Just get whichever of Poch or ETH we want now and stop wasting time and inevitably destroying next season as well. Enrique is also completely out of the question for me. We can't just throw away any progress being made next season especially since we're losing some big players in the summer due to contracts expiring and we've already shown we won't buy anybody until the new manager is in place.
If Chelsea can’t buy or sell players surely the same applies to their coaches? If Tuchel has a contact at Chelsea until 2024, he’s not going anywhere unless a new owner comes in and compensation is agreed.
Starting to think simeone may actually be our best bet to sort out this toxic squad as we need an absolute no nonsense manager with a mad dog number 2 to shut down the slightest attitude in the dressing room and lack of effort on the pitch.
There is no point hiring a good manager unless he can and is allowed to be absolutely ruthless with our primadonna players
There is no point hiring a good manager unless he can and is allowed to be absolutely ruthless with our primadonna players
I hope it's either Enrique or ten Hag due to their approach to the game which has the potential to be very entertaining to watch.
I can't see it being Tuchel as things stand but would take Lopategui over Pochettino.
I can't see it being Tuchel as things stand but would take Lopategui over Pochettino.
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