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Sounds like he's on the verge of breaking. He should never have taken the PSG job, completely the opposite kind of club/team than his managerial style.
Good post, Agree with pretty much everything you said.
Feels like he's been the first choice since November/December, but surely it's due a rethink.
As I said before, after Mourinho was sacked I think Pochettino was the man to get. I think it would have been the right manager at the right time. But it feels years too late now, too much has changed. Now Ten Hag seems the right man at the right time and we'd regret missing it. Tuchel and Luis Enrique should both be sounded out too, to see how willing they would be to push the move.
Taking the United job that is obviously stressful and you're under a lot of pressure after his PSG stint may be too much. Perhaps a sabbatical and returning back to management in 2023 would be good for him. But he probably can't wait to finish with PSG and start at another club in summer.
PSG have done to Potch what Madrid did to Mourinho.
Except Poch was shit to begin with.
Except Poch was shit to begin with.
I hope we're smart, at least for once. Wouldn't be surprised if our board et al still believe Poch is the right now, as they did in 2018....
Reading the article and couldn't help laughing out loud when we came to the bit about Neymar posting on Instagram about his sister's birthday. But of course he is.
Which other young and upcoming managers are you referring to if not just speaking generally? Ten Hag is older than Pochettino for instance
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Who are Rangnicks disciples ?
1. Tuchel (Chelsea)
2. Marsch (Leeds)
3. Hasenhüttel (Soton)
4. Blessin (Genoa)
5. Rose (Dortmund)
6. Nagelsmann (Bayern)
7. Hütter (Gladbach)
8. Jaissle (Salzburg)
9. Schmidt (PSV)
Will he being eyeing one of the above ? Everyone seems gettable except for maybe Nagelsmann. And Marsch.
1. Tuchel (Chelsea)
2. Marsch (Leeds)
3. Hasenhüttel (Soton)
4. Blessin (Genoa)
5. Rose (Dortmund)
6. Nagelsmann (Bayern)
7. Hütter (Gladbach)
8. Jaissle (Salzburg)
9. Schmidt (PSV)
Will he being eyeing one of the above ? Everyone seems gettable except for maybe Nagelsmann. And Marsch.
The only one that seemed potentially likely was Rose but i would say that's a non starter after this season, especially when ETH and Ajax ruined them in the CL
Young means years managed, not necessarily age. Managers don't rely on physical attributes, so age is irrelevant.
Poch has been managing top teams since 2009 as opposed to Ten Hag who has been managing them since 2015. There is a 6 year "age" difference management wise between the 2.
I’m still of the belief that this building up of club structure behind the scenes is more geared towards appointing ETH, over Poch.
Poch essentially marganisalised Paul Mitchell‘s first team role as head of recruitment at Spurs when he signed a new contract which essentially promoted him from ‘first team head coach’ to ‘manager’, because Poch wanted a much more significant say on recruitment, and worryingly a lot of Spurs‘ purchases after Pochs new contract were duds.
So it seems silly that we’re even appointing a Deputy Football Director if Poch is coming in.
Poch essentially marganisalised Paul Mitchell‘s first team role as head of recruitment at Spurs when he signed a new contract which essentially promoted him from ‘first team head coach’ to ‘manager’, because Poch wanted a much more significant say on recruitment, and worryingly a lot of Spurs‘ purchases after Pochs new contract were duds.
So it seems silly that we’re even appointing a Deputy Football Director if Poch is coming in.
Honestly from what ive experienced, we'd have seen briefs on anyone United was considering. It's very rare for such a high profile decision to come out of nowhere. So i confidently anticipate the next manager to be either ETH (please) or Poch (ugh alright i guess).
We are basically like PSG except with worse players, if Poch is having a meltdown trying to get them to work together, imagine what he'll be like with our denegerates.
The way the wheels have come off at PSG makes Poch being our next manager feel so inevitable.
Hiring managers who are at their peak and at clubs who don't want them to leave, you'd think that would be the first thing any intelligent board look for in a new manager. But not our board. The basic intelligence just is not there.
Poch and Bodgers have been in downward spirals for years. But I have absolutely no doubt there are some United board members who, even at this very moment, see them as the top two candidates.
Hiring managers who are at their peak and at clubs who don't want them to leave, you'd think that would be the first thing any intelligent board look for in a new manager. But not our board. The basic intelligence just is not there.
Poch and Bodgers have been in downward spirals for years. But I have absolutely no doubt there are some United board members who, even at this very moment, see them as the top two candidates.
Thank you for answering but I wanted to see what @BlueHaze meant by that. Ten Hag is a late bloomer maybe, because he earned his UEFA coaching badges long before Pochettino.
Pochetinno retired from playing in 06/07 and got his start in management coaching (as an assistant) a women's team in 08/09. His stint there was brief before he was named Espanyol manager at 36.
Ten Hag was already managing teams in 2002, four years before Pochettino retired from playing. He coached FC Twente's U-17 and U-19 teams in 2002 and became their assistant manager from 2006-2009.
FC Twente finished fourth in the Eridivisie the first season Ten Hag was assistant there, the same season Pochettino retired from PLAYING the game.
Ten Hag accrued 192 games as assistant coach at FC Twente under Fred Rutten (142 games) and Steve McClaren (50) by the start of 2009/10 season when he became assistant at PSV, the second biggest team in Holland for two seasons before taking the mantle at Go Ahead Eagles in 2012.
So which manager has more experience at 'top clubs'? Or are we not including Ten Hag's time and experience as assistant manager?
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How is having a 15 point lead at the top of Ligue one a meltdown? I get it, he has an expensively assembled squad, he should be smashing it anyway right? The only thing that matters at PSG is the CL and they're yet to win it even under some very good managers like Ancelloti, Blanc and the cup manager specialists in Emery and Tuchel
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Imagine they get him in to replace Poch
Arteta should go to PSG.
Zidane a non-runner now?
has to be ETH or Tuchel for me. Not another man who happens To be cheap and available
has to be ETH or Tuchel for me. Not another man who happens To be cheap and available
ETH isn't suited at all to PSG.
He would be surprised by the quality of frustration at United.
When do people expect it to become clear who the next manager will be?
At the moment some would say it’s a toss up between 2 or 3 names. Once Utd decide for sure, it won’t be long before it’s obvious
At the moment some would say it’s a toss up between 2 or 3 names. Once Utd decide for sure, it won’t be long before it’s obvious
By the end of April at the latest id say, though i wouldnt be surprised if we know more info within 2-3 weeks considering the reports. Be interesting to see as well how far Ajax go in the CL
Feeling pretty confident when I say Poch will be revealed as the new manager at some point during the upcoming two week break. End of April at the latest.
LW? We needs a proper RW. Sancho looks good on the left.
Imagine they get him in to replace Poch
Arteta is in the middle of his project at Arsenal, so I doubt he'll leave.
Ten Hag isn't going to take the PSG job as his first job considering what happened there with Poch.
Conte on the other hand is itching for a bigger job.
So I see a Poch/Conte swap.
While ETH will most likely join us.
Would be pretty interesting rivalry of Poch vs Ten Hag in the EPL.
This sounds like the opposite of what actually happened if I recall correctly. Any evidence or sources to back up this assertion? Mitchell and Pochettino had a great working relationship at Spurs which continued from their time together at Southampton. Pochetinno's last contract at Spurs was in 2018, Mitchell left Spurs in 2016 because of constraints of working with Daniel Levy. It seems you're making things up or you simply haven't done your due diligence
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Yeah he’s very reliable
If PSG replace Poch there's no way they'll look outside of Zidane. And if Zidane says no they'll go for Conte.
Let’s get the right man in Ten Hag and hopefully within a few years we can actually hope it’s our team preventing the scousers from winning titles rather than having to rely on city..
I really hope Rangnick has sold the club to Ten Hag.
This. I hope United can see it too.
This. I hope United can see it too.
I don't think PSG fancy Conte with their celebrity footballer culture. Conte is stricter and less personal connected to the players outside of work than Mourinho. Going into this extreme suddenly doesn't seem to be a good idea.
If Ancelotti become available, he can be an option for PSG IMO. Ancelotti management style is very similar to Zidane. Zidane has a bigger reputation now, but Ancelotti can pretty much fit PSG CL focus.
Chelsea situation may make Tuchel available. If Leonardo, Nasser leave, Tuchel maybe an option for them too.
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Looks like Marc Overmars's departure has really unsettled Ten Hag. This lends credence to the idea that he needs the perfect setup to excel. And yes I know he was DoF and manager at Utrecht before managing Ajax. I think he'd rather be complemented by/work in tandem with a competent DoF he shares similar ideas with. He probably wouldn't work well at PSG either seeing as he's being reported to be on their shortlist.
Surely Ajax even without Overmars are still a much better run club than United. Van De Saar is doing a fantastic job there upstairs and Hunteelar is expected to pick up where Overmars left by all accounts. I'm also aware Ten Hag is reportedly tired of having to rebuild every few years due to Ajax's policy of selling at the right price
How will ETH handle the feckless united board at this higher level of scrutiny? It would seem City would fit him better, but I doubt City will touch him, he hasn't won anything of note to land the job there. City won't risk it.
I would've loved to see ETH at Spurs (when he was interviewed and turned down for the role after Mourinho's sacking) as it would've given us a chance to evaluate his ability to work under constrained conditions at a higher level like Poch did with aplomb during his time there.
Let's not forget that Poch finished in the top three with Spurs three seasons on the bounce and got them challenging for the title in one of those seasons (2016/17). He wasn't just a top four manager as widely mentioned on here. I've read on here that ETH speaks perfect English but apparently Valentijn Driessen of De Telegraaf reported that one reason Spurs turned him down after his underwhelming interview for them was the fact he didn't speak English very well. Just dispelling some of the myths about ETH on here which are spouted as gospel truth. To make it clear, I don't care about his handle on English, he can improve as many managers have. It's no wonder he's reportedly working on brushing up on his English
Surely Ajax even without Overmars are still a much better run club than United. Van De Saar is doing a fantastic job there upstairs and Hunteelar is expected to pick up where Overmars left by all accounts. I'm also aware Ten Hag is reportedly tired of having to rebuild every few years due to Ajax's policy of selling at the right price
How will ETH handle the feckless united board at this higher level of scrutiny? It would seem City would fit him better, but I doubt City will touch him, he hasn't won anything of note to land the job there. City won't risk it.
I would've loved to see ETH at Spurs (when he was interviewed and turned down for the role after Mourinho's sacking) as it would've given us a chance to evaluate his ability to work under constrained conditions at a higher level like Poch did with aplomb during his time there.
Let's not forget that Poch finished in the top three with Spurs three seasons on the bounce and got them challenging for the title in one of those seasons (2016/17). He wasn't just a top four manager as widely mentioned on here. I've read on here that ETH speaks perfect English but apparently Valentijn Driessen of De Telegraaf reported that one reason Spurs turned him down after his underwhelming interview for them was the fact he didn't speak English very well. Just dispelling some of the myths about ETH on here which are spouted as gospel truth. To make it clear, I don't care about his handle on English, he can improve as many managers have. It's no wonder he's reportedly working on brushing up on his English
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Nagelsmann is an example I'm curious if he will be sucessful in the long run at Bayern and Ten Hag is older but he is probably going to take the step up to a bigger club soon and Poch at PSG has not impressed me by any means with that super team he has.
interesting that Nagelsman is curious if he isn't successful at bayern but Poch wouldn't be at far more difficult circumstances to be successful...
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