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If he's favoured by the squad, it's another reason not to give it to him.“believed” ….one little tweet and suddenly it’s panic
Agree entirely, the path of least resistance.
If these absolute shit-house collection of players have any input over who our next manager is I'll fecking cry.
Pochettino's failures not withstanding, he is wanted by both the board and the players. That alone makes him the bad choice. And it's why he will almost definitely be manager next season. I expect the appointment to happen during the two week break after Atletico, though Ralf will see the season out. In the meantime, the board and Pochettino will be working on signing Kane for a 100 million and offering Rashford a new 4-year contract on 300k/week.
Ideally I'd love us to have RR move upstairs and we go and get Nagelsmann out of Bayern. It would cost a fortune but probably less than Maguire cost and would have a bigger impact overall. Just thinking back to when we played Leipzig away, they looked like they had 14 players on the pitch against our lot 
Realistically, I know that this is incredibly unlikely, but it is a move I would love us to make.
Tuchel could be an option with all that is happening at Chelsea. Not too sure how I rate him, despite the CL win. Good manager, clearly, but there is something that doesn't grab me.
I don't want Poch and never really did. He's a dead man walking at PSG now, which will make it 2 clubs on the bounce that will have binned him soon enough. We don't need that.
ETH looks interesting and could be revolutionary, but would likely need 2-3 years to get it right, and I am not sure that our fragile fanbase will allow that before creating a toxic atmosphere. Then of course there are the players who we know don't like running
God knows who we get but it better work or we'll be staring the vermins 30 year wait in the face ourselves.
Realistically, I know that this is incredibly unlikely, but it is a move I would love us to make. Tuchel could be an option with all that is happening at Chelsea. Not too sure how I rate him, despite the CL win. Good manager, clearly, but there is something that doesn't grab me.
I don't want Poch and never really did. He's a dead man walking at PSG now, which will make it 2 clubs on the bounce that will have binned him soon enough. We don't need that.
ETH looks interesting and could be revolutionary, but would likely need 2-3 years to get it right, and I am not sure that our fragile fanbase will allow that before creating a toxic atmosphere. Then of course there are the players who we know don't like running
God knows who we get but it better work or we'll be staring the vermins 30 year wait in the face ourselves.
Not fully because the players are not committed to it. They either run out of steam after 45-60 minute or sack it off at the first sign of trouble. They've seemingly taken the attitude that they don't need to give it 100 per cent, as in a few months Ralf will be gone and they'll be doing something else. Its sad that our squad doesn't have enough professional pride to fight for each other, nevermind the shirt or the fans. That's life though.
They’re in for a shock then, as we know him and Fletcher are assessing the squad and considering they’re basically giving up for him i’m sure his reports will be glowing
Many of them have heard it all before. Some of them are on their third or fourth coach.
The precedent United has set is: Its less expensive to fire the coach than refresh the squad. So if it all goes wrong they'll be expecting to outlast yet another coach. Honestly, I'd not be surprised if they were right.
Hope it's not Pochettino do not want him at all he's yesterdays man.
Considering reports elsewhere that manager doing his own due diligence is likely ETH
If Pochettino is indeed sacked by PSG, I don't think our Board will be able to resist the temptation to appoint him.
Our only chance of seeing Ten Hag appointed was PSG digging their heels in over Pochettino. Now that they have been KO'd from the CL, the complaints that Pochettino can't handle big names, has a drab and dreary style of football and has turned PSG into a one-man team (if Mbappe doesn't score, they don't score), will start to bite and you'd expect the PSG Board to get rid of him.
Our only chance of seeing Ten Hag appointed was PSG digging their heels in over Pochettino. Now that they have been KO'd from the CL, the complaints that Pochettino can't handle big names, has a drab and dreary style of football and has turned PSG into a one-man team (if Mbappe doesn't score, they don't score), will start to bite and you'd expect the PSG Board to get rid of him.
Ah I see it now, we will hire Poch as it's a quicker resolution if he's sacked and brings earlier mental stability to the players now.
I'd rather wait for the Tuchel situation and ETH to be available. Poch has gone down over the course of this season in my eyes, although he wouldn't be a "bad" appointment, I'd rather we just made a very good one.
He doesn't have the Mbappe situation here because nobody scores.
I hope Ten Hag’s man on the inside to gauge the mood isn’t Donny
What does this mean? Are they asking prospective managers "we want you to build for the long term, take the time you need, but yeah we do want short term success too"?
Maybe its just a "stay in top 4 and you'll get the time you need" sort of thing but I still don't like that as part of the interview process.
None of this should come as a shock. We’ve been a shit show for years now, it’s hardly breaking news to any potential new manager.
As far as I'm concerned sell the majority of the first team if it means we can get ETH. Let him build us in his style. Poch would be another Ole, we'll play good in a run of games but still get bizarre results against the lower half teams that will cost us. I reckon the team would down tools with Enrique very quickly.
Honestly, this whole 'interview process' is laughable to me. It shows that, for all the talk about the new structure, we still don't have any clue or any plan.
I look at Laporta at Barcelona. Last summer the football world was united in his agreement that Barcelona was a basket case, it'd be a long way back, they were in the wilderness...
...look at them now.
When you know what kind of football you want to play it should be easy to get a coach who can make that happen and sign players who can make that happen.
That's what comes from having a real football vision coming down from the Board. Something that's totally lacking at Man Utd.
Barcelona are still a basket case. I'm not sure why you're citing them as a relevant example, I'd shudder if we followed their footsteps.
"What type of football do you want to play"..*goes on to sign Adama Traore*
Don't you think that a lot of clubs do interviews like this, but because it's Manchester United you hear about it because we are more newsworthy than a lot of other clubs. Other clubs interview and scrutinise a list of managers but when it is us it causes a major debate.
Think you're right
We rewarded Ole a new contract as soon as he got knocked out of CL group stage and lost the Europa league final. The owners couldn’t give a toss if Poch failed in the CL, they reward failure and don’t want anyone ambitious
I always respect people who puts effort and works hard on their job and if he already shows this kind of attitude before he‘s getting the job then imagine how much works and efforts he will put in when he gets the job. It shows the commitment Ten Hag puts to be successful.
That was Woody, this is Arnold
Just because they did it before and already proven not working doesn’t mean they will do it again.
Since Xavi was appointed Barcelona has won more points in La Liga than any other team, except Madrid. When Xavi took over people were talking about them being nailed on for Europa League football. They're now third and, on current form, it won't be a surprise if they catch Sevilla. The turnaround is not taking seasons of transition. Barcelona will be competing for the title next season. United haven't competed for the title for the best part of 10 seasons.
Maybe? However, I'm pretty sure that Laporta didn't interview Xavi. In the same way I'm sure City didn't interview Pep. This is where I agree with Roy Keane. If you know where you want to go and you've got in mind the guy to take you there, then you go after him. If there's compensation to be paid you pay it, get your guy in and start going forwards.
I don't think United has any clue about what comes next. We're basically throwing s-t at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Ole had a fantastic run when he joined too.
I'm not sure what you're trying to insinuate here - they aren't making sustainable signings at all and show they haven't learned yet from previous failures. Being an upgrade on Koemen isn't difficult.
He took a punt and it could work. If they don't win la liga next season and challenge for the CL, it will soon turn to he should have interviewed more experience managers. Barcelona needed to change things. They relied on Messi for far too long and just paid him whatever he wanted which just wasn't sustainable, especially if his desire or talents started waning. In that way we need a reset as well, we need a different approach to who we sign and a defined style of play and give time for it to be implemented.
They're making signings that suit a specific style of football, which is very much in line with what Laporta has said he wants to see at his club.
I don't understand why you think the signings are unsustainable. There seems to be a clear idea about how each of these puzzle pieces will fit together. Rather than just signing people and trying to figure out afterwards where they'll play.
Maybe it'll fizzle out. However, if it does (and I'm not sure it will having watched them), I'm sure Laporta will find another coach in the Cruyff school to take them to the next level.
Maybe? By the same token he took punts on Rijkaard and Pep when they were inexperienced. He could do this because he has a vision of how he wants his team to play and an idea of who might be able to implement it. Do you honestly think Joel Glazer, Richard Arnold or even John Murtough could articulate what they think United should look like? Based on the leaks to the press I'd say no. Attacking football, play youth, those are buzzwords not a vision.
No they aren't. Adama Traoure is not suited to the Barcelona style of football, it's a matter of time before this is realized. Aubameyang was only signed because of his situation with Arsenal, and he has known disciplinary issues carried from Dortmund and Arsenal. That doesn't fit in well with what Xavi is trying to build at Barcelona. Dani Alves is not sustainable, Christensen is only coming because he's free.
They are making signings that are based on player situation. This is clear.
Auba is turning 33, Dani Alves is 38. Adama is not very good.
If I am a Barcelona fan and I see these signings being made, I'm not filled with medium-term confidence for next season regardless of the run the results are on for now. An improvement in form is almost guaranteed but its no way near sufficient.
That's what we will find out. Thing is they have to start thinking differently because I think Arnold and Murtough will want to be credited with bringing United back to greatness. Fans are a lot more critical now and will no longer stand for being taken for mugs. Social media has it's bad points, but it can also highlight and build pressure on the boards of clubs.
I'm going to say something that people might laugh at -
But if we miss out on the Ten Hag, Zidane's, Pochettino's, Enriques and Tuchels -
Then someone I might be excited to see is the return of Michael Carrick.
But if we miss out on the Ten Hag, Zidane's, Pochettino's, Enriques and Tuchels -
Then someone I might be excited to see is the return of Michael Carrick.
Totally.
If it were up to me, ETH + promote all u18s as a reward to reaching the fa final + keep DDG, Bruno, Varane and Sancho. The rest can go join Poch on his next venture.
I hate how the journos are saying Poch is the players' choice.
It should not matter who they want. Bunch of cnuts.
It should not matter who they want. Bunch of cnuts.
Let's not even go there.
Yeah that is irritating. Would make me chuckle if the first thing he did was ditch Shaw. Would be interesting to know who the managers are and their list of potential signings and list of potential sales. I would love to know what road they want to go down, big name signings or great young signings who can be developed further. Which players they rate that are already at the club and who they don't.
Have you been watching them? You've cited three players as if they're building their squad around golden oldies. Two of those players, Alves and Auba, are fulfilling short term needs. Once Barcelona's financial issues get better they'll obviously be upgraded on.
As for Adama, he was signed because Xavi sets up the team to place his widemen in 1v1 duels in wide areas. This is to create opportunities in the half space for underlaps. Adama's pace and power is a weapon that can be used within the context of Xavi's system, especially in Spanish football where his physicality is less easy to cope with than in the Premier League. He was a gettable option for a short term problem. Again, as Barcelona's financial situation improves, he'll likely be replaced.
Nothing Barcelona has done has smacked of opportunism or short sightedness. Xavi knows what type of football he wants to play. He's not just getting Alexis Sanchez because he's getable and then thinking: 'Hm, where can I play him?' As I said the puzzle pieces all fit together and all that will happen, as Barca goes forward, is better pieces will be brought in to replace the ones that went before.
Woodward also wanted to be credited with bringing United back to greatness. Wanting something, knowing how to achieve it and having the ability to do it are all different things.
If you want to go down the ex player route than i'd rather have Wayne Rooney than Carrick
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