I think Klopp hinted rejecting us at one point didnt he? Said it felt like a Disneyland rather than a club or something
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Yeah Ralf to stay in charge until we can get Enrique should be the backup plan, however got this nagging feeling our board see Ten Hag as backup for Pochettino
Yeah and it's all that Toy Story's puppet fault
The biggest mistake we made was sending Ed to speak to Klopp to convince him to be Man Utd Manager.
Klopp is one of the most knowledgeable football people in the world while Ed struggles to explain offside rules with a gun on his head.
The outcome: Adult Disneyland.
Klopp is one of the most knowledgeable football people in the world while Ed struggles to explain offside rules with a gun on his head.
The outcome: Adult Disneyland.
For me Klopp to United wouldn't have ever happened.
Klopp knew what he was doing going to a club like Liverpool and raising a sleeping giant with his own time, pace and free will.
The level of pressure United fans or board puts on the manager is not his type of management.
It's the same reason that I see Klopp more likely to be at AC Milan than Juventus.
I think Klopp felt incredibly patronized he was being sold a club like he was a kid. Klopp used to jump up and down the touchline like a monkey, Woodward likely saw that and stupidly made the disneyland connection. Absolutely embarrassing faux pas of a sales pitch I hope he thinks about in the shower.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ester-united-manager-search-i-know-my-opinion
Strange that Rangnick has not been consulted at all on who is the suitable candidate for the permanent manager roles. I thought he was appointed to lay the foundation and ensure the continuity of style of play by identifying the right permanent manager.
Looks like Rangnick roles is only limited to 6 months to try to get Top 4, that's all. He was not involved in such an important decision to appoint the next manager.
Strange that Rangnick has not been consulted at all on who is the suitable candidate for the permanent manager roles. I thought he was appointed to lay the foundation and ensure the continuity of style of play by identifying the right permanent manager.
Looks like Rangnick roles is only limited to 6 months to try to get Top 4, that's all. He was not involved in such an important decision to appoint the next manager.
You are right. Rangnick was appointed to be the interim manager and he was only doing that if he got some sort of other contract making up for his Moscow DoF contract running until 2024. Hence, two years of "consultancy".
The consultancy hiring has first and foremost been about money, as would have been obvious the moment Rangnick confirmed that nothing further about his role was agreed at his first press conference. I've argued countless times that your DoF, being a DoF, will not have hired to have Rangnick do his job for him, against whole myriads of fan fiction how Rangnick at the helm will transform your club. And guess what, this is what is happening. It helps to pay attention to the the facts on the ground as opposed to wishful thinking.
I'm sure the marble bathroom in his 10 bedroom second home is the perfect place for him to reflect. The cretin.
The only pressure put on a manager was Moyes. The other 3 basically had to self destruct to lose their jobs. Klopp would of been more than fine at United. All supporters (and clubs) want to see is improvement season after season to be given time and patience. I think we can all safely say Klopp achieved that at Liverpool so why couldn't he have done that here? Klopp spent slightly more than Ole after taking over an underpowered squad and is now one of the worlds best teams.
How can anyone say something crazy like that? How can missing out on atleast 80m not affect the transfer budget? The Glazers are not going to invest any money into the club to make up that deficit, this is total crap
I assume they mean the budget is already calculated taking into account the potential of missing out on the CL. Any extra goes to Glazers, of course.
Klopp rejected everyone that summer including Chelsea and Real Madrid in order to stay at Dortmund because he had unfinished business. Klopp said that he felt that comparing Old Trafford to Disneyland for adults was not sexy(or something close to that). My issue with people constantly bringing this up is that the context of the quote actually makes sense since it was about how entertainment was important for matchgoing fans.
It's one of the cases where there is nothing wrong with the comparison and everything wrong with Klopp who was being dishonest, it's even worse when he also allegedly said said that United and Real madrid were all about business compared to Liverpool who was more about history and identity. Now consider that he is talking about a club owned by FSG, a club that has a pathetic history of trademarking things they didn't create or aren't specifically linked to them.
Liverpool are and have been one of the most business oriented club ever and that's why despite limited success they have consistently been one of the wealthiest. I really like Klopp as a manager but his hypocrisy and dishonesty is often pathetic.
It's not how it works. The money almost entirely goes to the club. The reason not making the CL this year wouldn't affect this summers budget is simply because these budgets aren't based on the next 12 months.
As if Romano has been told.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind either one of Pochettino or Ten Haag. It's a step up in quality from hiring bums like Solskjaer and Rangnick.
no need to be so disrespectful is there
they're both extremely successful people, you know
Yeah when you see articles like this I can't help thinking it's ultimately leading to the board appointing Pochettino over Ten Hag
Yes, it was also very clear that Rangnick was not backed in Jan transfer window because his roles are actually just 6 months interim. Nothing more nothing less. Hence, no players was signed because the board was not sure wether the next manager may play similar style of play with Rangnick.
The most worrying part if this was all true, our board again do things without long term plan in mind. I still think Rangnick should be part of the team to give inputs to find the best candidate for the permanent manager. He is coaching the team now and his inputs are vital to ensure continuity. And he is also much more experienced compared to people like Murtough, Flechter.
It's quite disappointing that (as he said) the board didn't discuss with him at all on the next manager appointment. His "consultant" roles may just be a way to pay him.
I don't think it's that worrying.
Ultimately, Murtough doesn't need Rangnick to point out the best candidates to him, they are obvious. Murtough will be well aware of the pros, cons, chances and risks.
I also think that Murtough will take Rangnick up on the consultations he will be getting paid for, even if it was first of all a financial agreement. He's by all accounts an admirer of Rangnick as a club runner, so he will be open to his input; but it might just be that the current agreement is for Rangnick to focus on the interim role as it is the most immediately important thing.
I also don't believe that Rangnick minds that he wasn't 'backed', I don't think he expected much investment into his 6 months stint, it's not something he would have done if the roles were reversed either.
Oh please no, he is so overrated.
I get your points. But the worrying part for me was that Rangnick was actually not brought in to lay the foundation for the next manager. He was brought in just for short term 6 months. The next manager that come in will have different requirement and we will need to start all over again. So next season will be something like what we are experiencing now.
If that was the case, then Rangnick should just focus on getting the best out of the current squad which is playing counter attacking football. No point implementing such drastic change on style of play mid season with no results to back up.
I'd find it very strange that Ralf is being kept out of the loop on the new managers position. The whole point of having a DOF is to ensure continuity at the club, as in hiring managers with more or less the same style of play, the same as with players. Ralf was brought in as interim on the pretext of being a consultant to the DOF and if he's not consulting behind the scenes then something really is rotten within the club. What's the point of him having a consulting role if nobody is consulting with him even if that specific job hasn't actually started?
If Ralf thinks ETH would be a great candidate and the club chooses someone with a different philosophy then the club may as well rip up his 2 year contract because the next managerial post is the biggest decision in the here and now and if Ralf doesn't have an input what's the point?
Rangnick is getting so much support from fans these days. May be Murtough is reminding him who the actual boss is.
Surely if RR is getting lots of love from that fans that reflects positively on the man who hired right??Rangnick is getting so much support from fans these days. May be Murtough is reminding him who the actual boss is.
Or Real sign Mbappe and Poch follows him there.
From the horse's mouth, Rangnick has no inputs or not being consulted on the new manager position. It also seems that the style of play he so drastically implemented major changes mid season may not be for long term either. Really hope this time round Murtough knows what he is doing and guide us to the right direction.
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Once City got Soriano and Begiristan we were never gonna get Pep
Yeah sadly that is very true
Which just shows what good preparation and planning gets you.
Something we have lacked for last 9 years
Very true. The only planning is what the Glazers spend their divi on.
Yeah what yacht they can purchase
By all indications we haven't decided so how could Ralf already have been frozen out? By several accounts we've only started making candidate shortlists reaching out so we aren't yet at that stage. He hasn't been consulted doesn't mean he won't be consulted.
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The only recent coach with a worse percentage was the coach who was there before the Qatari money who they promptly sacked for Ancelotti shortly after buying the club.
Quite the surprise given that PSG have arguably had the most talent stacked squad in the world the last 2 years
Based on what he said (the presser), he isn't out of the loop: he hasn't discussed the next manager (who it should be) with anyone explicitly but he does know something (about the recruitment process, presumably - however, he can't discuss this with the media, as he says).
The club hasn't made any decision yet - is how I would interpret it. I certainly would find it rather bizarre if they've gone and reached an agreement with the next manager - but just didn't bother telling Ralf about it.
The club hasn't made any decision yet - is how I would interpret it. I certainly would find it rather bizarre if they've gone and reached an agreement with the next manager - but just didn't bother telling Ralf about it.
Ralf seems like a very straight shooter so there should be no reason to doubt him but sometimes managers, including interims have agendas on what they choose to share with the general public if they're going to be kept on at the club. I'm hoping so anyway because if he really is being frozen out in such an important decision then I have grave doubts that Murtough does know what he's doing.
It's all conjecture but maybe the club doesn't like the way Ralf operates with the press and are regretting hiring him because that's the only thing I could come up with if he has no say whatsoever in hiring the next manager given the fact that's exactly why he was brought into the club for in the first place.
If that's the case then we deserve exactly what we get as a club.Rangnick is getting so much support from fans these days. May be Murtough is reminding him who the actual boss is.
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