I agree that Enrique was poor at Roma but not sure why you claim he underwhelmed at Celta. What was he supposed to do with that side, win La Liga?
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I agree that Enrique was poor at Roma but not sure why you claim he underwhelmed at Celta. What was he supposed to do with that side, win La Liga?
Roma was also his first foray into being a head coach at first team level, and the Roma squad weren't suited to playing the brand of football he wanted to implement. The only way he could've changed things is if he had stayed at the club for longer than the solitary season he was there.
That experience at Roma shaped him as a coach according to what I've read.
Dont you think this will be a risk here also? We need a manager who can work with current squad and deliver decent results.
I believe he will have the players at his disposal to implement his style of play. We have players like Hannibal, Amad, Laird, Garner etc who could also be real options under him.
When he was at Barca he had to adapt to the aging Xavi and Iniesta and realised he wouldn't be able to effectively control offensive transitions without the two greats. And hence changed tact and implemented a fast transition play style with quick vertical passes through the lines to get the ball to the front 3 with minimal amount of passes.
So like ten hag, Enrique is also very versatile and does adapt to his teams, without sacrificing attacking intent.
Nothing to do with the Glazers.
Ole, his coaching team, the scouts and Woodward are to blame for no DM during Ole's time.
Glazers obviously had nothing to do with that. You think they'd sanction £72m on Sancho, who it turns out Ole had no plan for despite chasing for 2 seasons, and not sanction £40-60m on a midfielder?
Plenty to blame on the Glazers but player recruitment isnt on them at all.
Glazers don't decide the priority of position
Thanks for reply. I was bit blank on his time at Barcelona and that Roma explanation had me worried.
I just hope whoever is our choice, will integrate our academy players in first team because there are some great talents coming up. ETH, Poch and Enrique are good at that so i wont be unhappy if we hire anyone from that list.
By the way, which manager you are most hoping to see at United?
The club is such a mess, in that RR is right. In that 10 years of underachievement cant be changed in 2 months never mind 6 months.
Poch is desperate for the job, whether he is the guy who can turn this around remains to be seen. There are football journalists who doubt him. Popular at PSG with the players, but tactically not seen as being all that great.
Our dressing room is fractured. Younger players not following instructions or listening to senior pros. The coaching staff not being listened to. Though we still need better coaching staff than the mls level RR brought in.
Playing squad needs a overhaul. RR not wrong that you cant win the biggest trophies with a back line that has Shaw, Maguire and AWB in it.
If Poch isnt the guy then who is? ETH is popular with us all here (generally), however this job maybe too big for him at this stage of his career. Seasoned managers who command respect and have CVs to match arent available i.e. Allegri, Ancelotti etc.
So who do we appoint? Whoever it is needs 100% support for shaping the playing squad they way they see fit and the rot in the dressing room needs to be removed. No matter what the cost. Whether the board have the stomach for that (taking a hit on maguire for example), remains to be seen.
Poch is desperate for the job, whether he is the guy who can turn this around remains to be seen. There are football journalists who doubt him. Popular at PSG with the players, but tactically not seen as being all that great.
Our dressing room is fractured. Younger players not following instructions or listening to senior pros. The coaching staff not being listened to. Though we still need better coaching staff than the mls level RR brought in.
Playing squad needs a overhaul. RR not wrong that you cant win the biggest trophies with a back line that has Shaw, Maguire and AWB in it.
If Poch isnt the guy then who is? ETH is popular with us all here (generally), however this job maybe too big for him at this stage of his career. Seasoned managers who command respect and have CVs to match arent available i.e. Allegri, Ancelotti etc.
So who do we appoint? Whoever it is needs 100% support for shaping the playing squad they way they see fit and the rot in the dressing room needs to be removed. No matter what the cost. Whether the board have the stomach for that (taking a hit on maguire for example), remains to be seen.
I'm hoping it's gonna be either ten hag or Enrique because for me football is entertainment first and foremost and my preference has always been to see the technical players thrive. And Enrique and ten hag are two coaches who are strong in their ideals when it comes to implementing a game style which looks to impose upon the opposition both offensively and defensively.
So for me, it's easy to pick either of the above over Poch due to their superior ability to implement a imposing play style in the build up phase.
Excuse me, could I possibly interest you in Mr Brendan Rodgers?
Anyone?
PSG looking clueless against Rennes, absolute boring, garbage football, is this how they've played the whole season? When they're not playing with each other with no end product, they're getting bullied by Rennes.
Edit: Mbappe scores in the 92nd minute, the only shot on target after discounting the offside goal. Never thought I'd say this, but I hope Poch wins the CL and PSG keep him
Edit: Mbappe scores in the 92nd minute, the only shot on target after discounting the offside goal. Never thought I'd say this, but I hope Poch wins the CL and PSG keep him
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Are you following Leicester this season ?!
Fair point about celta, I’ll rescind that comment but the rest I do stand by
This. Poch is not something that will change this club.
The Glazers are the final say in who comes in.
A DM was needed. Ronaldo was available and they had no more funds for DM because all was spent on Ronaldo.
Sancho and a CB signing was expected last season. No talk of a striker.
Because you look at those campaigns without context.
Ajax was dealing with quite some injuries in the group stage (inherent to the game), and failed to finish games. They deservedly lost against Getafe but should have easily went through the CL group stage when the refs completely robbed them as they were beating Chelsea 4-1 at the stamford bridge. A game that ended up being 4-4. It was truly bizarre how the ref gave two red cards that came out of a foul on an Ajax player.
Absurd to lose that last match vs Valencia as well. It's usually quite a young team, sometimes naive, unexperienced. But Ajax during Ten Hag's tenure, is almost always the better team and they show great resilience and strategy when they aren't. Sometimes they don't reward them selves enough when they're much better, like vs Roma. Ajax completely dominated them home and away, but managed to not go through.
The most disappointing performances for me under Ten Hag were really vs Getafe, Atalanta away 2nd half, Atalanta home.
The matches against Liverpool, Chelsea, Roma during those two seasons, leaves me very proud as an Ajax supporter even if they didn't get the result. Because the basis of those performances have served for Ajax to reach the current level where they can win 6/6 which is a complete insane performance from a team outside of the top 5 leagues.
With far less budget, younger player, inexperienced players, building teams again, Erik Ten Hag has done a phenomenal job and will be one of Ajax' all time greats. In the same breathe as the likes of Van Gaal, even though he'll likely never win the CL.
Ronaldo signing was a last minute signing.
All the speculation was of a DM coming in.
This same board refused to back Maurinho when he needed a CB. So lets not rewrite history about the Glazers backing a manager blindly.
So Poch will be the one we get. Glazers have zero planning about anything. It is all random nonsense.
not random nonsense.
They are only focused on what generates revenue in the short term and investments which will reap revenue when sold.
They are Not interested in the football club
Yes i agree. Hoping for ETH myself as hiring Enrique will be difficult this season.
Yeah, the same Jose who signed Lindelof and Bailly, right?
After robbing us with Maguire no less, have you no shame??
Why did the board not bring in a DM?
Probably should ask Ole and not the owners. Glazers has always spent money. Just stop blaming them. Our managers especially Jose and Ole wasted money on duds.
Mouriniho signed a centre back in his first Summer, then again in his second Summer and threw his toys out the pram when he couldn’t sign Harry Maguire in his third summer, who we did ultimately sign. Let’s not rewrite history…
What you just wrote amplifies your ignorance of how the financial structure of the club is set up.
The moment they loaded the club with debt we were fecked.
The bankers needs immediately took priority over the football needs.
The Glazers had no knowledge of football.
They depended completely on Fergie. Even appointing his successor.
Ole should never have been given that contract.
They only reacted because of the catastrophic results.
City, Chelsea and now Newcastle do not have the debt.
While they have scum owners, their decisions are not determined by bankers first.
I have no idea what did I just read. Let me recap.
1. First you spoke about my ignorance on finance structure.
2. Then you spoke about bankers.
3. Then you spoke about Ole.
4. Then you spoke about city, Chelsea and Newcastle.
Dude, my point is simple. Did our owners spent money ? The answer is simple. Yes, probably more than 99 % of the clubs in the world.
You can blame them for 100 other reasons but not spending money isn't one of them.
Lets get back to the decision to bring in Ronaldo rather than the DM.
That was a decision directly related to revenue generation rather than football needs.
Ronaldo was not needed.
A DM was.
You really can't blame the owners for signing CR7. Come on now.
They did not have the funds for a DM and Ronaldo is what I was saying.
That was pretty obvious end of last season.
I would have had no problem if we got both.
Wasn't Ronaldo signed at the end of the window after most of the business had been concluded? Yeah I don't think his signing blocked a DM. Doesn't align. About not needing a striker maybe not from you but every time I logged on here last here everyone and their dog had a new striker on their 5 player shortlist of positions we needed to reinforce. I think some of the threads from the period might even support that. Then Neville came out saying we should have signed one to challenge. There was also talk about Kane all year. The need for a striker drew more support from the fans, ex-players and the press links also pointed in that direction. If we didn't even sign him I know he would have been the latest non-signing that supposedly kept Ole from challenging City and Liverpool. Remember the days when it was Sancho,
The Ronaldo signing was Solskjaer's choice and the board backed him according to reports.
Solskjaer didn't prioritise the signing of a midfielder in his 3 years at the club. The board didn't force him to neglect midfield over signing Jadon Sancho, Varane, Maguire, Wan Bissaka etc.
The board were correct to withdraw their backing for Mourinho because he'd already signed two CBs and wanted a 3rd. The issue here is the failure of the manager model. No successful team backs their manager blindly like we've done.
The talk of Neves went right up to the end of the window last summer.
Ronaldo became available and was signed.
The main talk all summer was about a DM.
Neves isn't a DM.
We currently have Matic, Fred and McT.
Only Matic strictly can be said to be a DM. But he can play further forward too.
But all three can play as a DM.
Only Matic strictly can be said to be a DM. But he can play further forward too.
But all three can play as a DM.
Neves would get destroyed in a high defensive line, defending a large space on the turnover. It's why Wolves setup in a mid block with a extra CB behind the midfield.
Neves is slow and immobile in defensive transition, which is a recipe for disaster in a team that wants to press high.
Fair enough. That is your opinion.
He was considered even this last window.
I saw a report we were 5 million short of the asking price.
I mentioned Neves as being the last name I saw mentioned.
There were several others who were from the continent.
But I can understand that they would need time to get used to the Premiership.
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