Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%

  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%

  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%

  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%
  • Total voters
    1,534
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Poch is old news. Hard for anyone to get excited about him because like Mourinho he's already performed well for another team. And that team is well in the past. ETH is the shiny new toy. Fresh. Exciting. Who wouldn't want him over boring old Poch. We know what to expect from Poch but ETH, in this league, he'd be all ours, not another prem team's leftovers. Easy to see why people prefer someone new. Same goes for Enrique.
 
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Caesar2290 said:
Enrique, definitely. He has showed that he could handle big egos like Suarez, Messi, Neymar, Iniesta, etc. and actually get a tune out of them and win big trophies while playing attractive attacking football. And, yes he also had politics and had to pick certain players and all that.

Poch from his time at PSG has shown that he simply can not do the same, despite PSG being a carbon copy of Barca and it's egos. He just isn't United material if we are serious about winning the big trophies. Now, if our goal is to potentially win Top4, then yeah sure we should definitely go for him. But as someone who said "Trophies are for egos and Top 4 is more important" I don't want him anywhere near the club I support.

That's why I said that fans should riot if we are serious about winning trophies. If we want to be the new Arsenal, then by all means we should welcome him.
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So basically - only Enrique or Zidane are acceptable. If it's anyone else - we should riot? Pochettino's comments was about Spurs, their squad and the remit he had from Levy - not some kind of life philosophy - it's silly to hold that against him.

Personally I have no interest in rioting regardless of who they appoint as long as it's not someone obviously unqualified like Fletcher.

Adnan said:
Any one of ten Hag, Enrique, Potter and I'll be be happy.
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Add Enrique to that and it's pretty much how I feel. Potter or Ten Hag would be exciting gambles.
 
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Pickle85 said:
Not to be pedantic but that doesn't invalidate my point.
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He only got the second stint because of his first successful stint in chelsea.

The original point was no club has gone onto win the league by signing a pl proven manager from another pl team, and to which i said their hasn't been any so far.
 
I'm kind of warming to the idea of Rooney which is interesting because normally I'm quite a level-headed person.
 
ti vu said:
:lol:

What if he gets the sack before the season end. Would that count? That's possible if PSG dumped out of CL early, while the mood keeps imploding with fans not happy with the football. Poch is not happy with Leonardo. Losing control of dressing room.
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They won't sack him. They were angrier with Emery and they let him finish the season.
 
VidaRed said:
That doesn't count because he won it first without any PL experience.

As for leicester check white text.
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All the managers that ended up winning the PL had already won some very big league titles in Europe.

Wenger had won the French Division 1 for Monaco. Ancelotti, Conte, Mourinho (if you are keen on dismissing the Portuguese league, he had won the Uefa Cup and the CL), Klopp, Mancini, and Guardiola all won it in their countries first.

Pellegrini is the only exception but he had the experience of 96 points in la Liga, only losing to an above elite Barcelona side.
 
HailtotheKing said:
Poch is old news. Hard for anyone to get excited about him because like Mourinho he's already performed well for another team. And that team is well in the past. ETH is the shiny new toy. Fresh. Exciting. Who wouldn't want him over boring old Poch. Despite boring old Poch. We know what to expect from Poch but ETH, in this league, he'd be all ours, not another prem team's leftovers. Easy to see why people prefer someone new. Same goes for Enrique.
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True. It's hard for me to accept Poch when you know his ceiling at this League. How his team setup and play. He won't be better than Klopp or Pep. From fans POV, what's the point then?? Why not trying something new?

But the Board, they surely have different agenda/expectation then us fans if they go for Poch.
 
USREDEVIL said:
And so you should. World class manager.
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Entertain me - what's his philosophy, what's his style, what subs does he make.

We obviously know he's hamstrung but reading 'he's world-class' is a bit knee-jerk to me.
 
I hope Utd make a decision soon. The players who are available for free in the summer is unreal. We could essentially solve some of our problems for nothing

Mbappe
Dybala
Kessie
Brozovic
Rudiger
Sule
Christensen
Kamara
 
Teja said:
Has he not signed the new deal yet? I thought Inter said he was close to signing.
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He is still listed on the players out of contract site. Just done a quick google and it looks like there was an agreement with the player and club, but no formal announcement.

Nethertheless - Would love to see Rudiger and Kessie at Utd.
 
Laurencio said:
So basically - only Enrique or Zidane are acceptable. If it's anyone else - we should riot? Pochettino's comments was about Spurs, their squad and the remit he had from Levy - not some kind of life philosophy - it's silly to hold that against him.

Personally I have no interest in rioting regardless of who they appoint as long as it's not someone obviously unqualified like Fletcher.
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He had an amazing squad. Let's not pretend he was managing West Ham or Leicester.

As things stand management wise Poch is closer to Moyes than Klopp or Pep. Good manager that will make an underdog team perform a bit better than expected, but eventually falling short of winning anything major. And if we are serious about being an elite side, we will stay away from him. He is just not the man for the job.

Now, if we were in Arsenal's position, that would have been a different story. But as things stand, Top4 isn't good enough for our club. And if our fans don't riot if they want to appoint him then that means we have already accepted mediocrity as a fanbase. And everything SAF worked for so hard all these years will simply go down the drain.

I don't say it's Zidane, Enrique or bust. But I am saying is instead of going for the tried and tested managers out there, take a gamble on a young and up and coming one. If it doesn't work out, at least we tried. It's called a risk, but it's also part of the reward.
 
Zoo said:
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I guess Rangnick becoming Technical Director will be noteworthy news to Darren Fletcher; and if a club, even one advised by a German, hires Ten Hag as manager it surely will be because of his excellent years at Ajax and not his rather inconsequential two seasons at Bayern II in the 4th German division.
 
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Rangnick needs to make it absolutely crystal clear that Ten Hag is the right man to take over from him in the summer. I like Enrique too but he won't go anywhere until after the World Cup.
 
A name not for now but could be down the line is Iraola at Rayo Vallecano. Got them promoted back into La Liga and first season back are currently 8th but only 5 points off Champions League and just reached the semis of Copa Del Rey.
 
Pintu said:
All the managers that ended up winning the PL had already won some very big league titles in Europe.

Wenger had won the French Division 1 for Monaco. Ancelotti, Conte, Mourinho (if you are keen on dismissing the Portuguese league, he had won the Uefa Cup and the CL), Klopp, Mancini, and Guardiola all won it in their countries first.

Pellegrini is the only exception but he had the experience of 96 points in la Liga, only losing to an above elite Barcelona side.
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They were not PL proven, that is the whole point.

ETH is being put down with the not pl proven stick even though he's also won trophies in europe.
 
Realistically if it isn't ETH or Enrique as our next permanent manager we're going to be in the wilderness for the next decade like the previous one.
 
Pintu said:
All the managers that ended up winning the PL had already won some very big league titles in Europe.

Wenger had won the French Division 1 for Monaco. Ancelotti, Conte, Mourinho (if you are keen on dismissing the Portuguese league, he had won the Uefa Cup and the CL), Klopp, Mancini, and Guardiola all won it in their countries first.

Pellegrini is the only exception but he had the experience of 96 points in la Liga, only losing to an above elite Barcelona side.
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Ranieri?!?
 
Sleigh said:
Ranieri?!?
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I didn’t consider him as he wasn’t relevant to the post we were discussing (see the white text at the end).

But he wasn’t a nobody. He almost won it for Roma in 2010 agains’t Mourinho’s European champions to be. Something like Pellegrini.

VidaRed said:
The premier league title has NEVER* been won by a manager who was already "PL Proven" when he was signed by a club that went onto win the league.

Its a bunch of bollocks that gets perpetuated here.

*I'm ignoring the leister season because that was a one off anyways that happens at best once a century.
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Freak said:
It was reported some time back that Spurs spoke to ETH but they thought he was not suitable for their managerial position. Or was it ETH who rejected them? Anyone knows what that story was and if it was Spurs who rejected him then why?
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I winder if he's one of those who wants total control of signings and team affairs, rather like early Fergie. Our idiots would reject that too
 
Gordon Godot said:
The trouble with the Poch obsession is that it suggests that board have learnt absolutely nothing from the past. It suggests the focus on a 'name' manager who will miraculously solve all our problems. As opposed to building and putting in place a structure, a proper DoF (Ralf) and an exciting young manager (we have a target). That would lay foundations for us to challenge over the mid term.
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I'd like us to interview three or four people, a bit like Everton appeared to do and something we haven't done since SAF left
 
VidaRed said:
They were not PL proven, that is the whole point.

ETH is being put down with the not pl proven stick even though he's also won trophies in europe.
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Agree. How many managers who have won the premier league is premier league proven in another club before winning the league? One (Claudio Ranieri). I think that phrase being linked to success is as absurd as it gets.

Edit: Just read your other post. Sleepy morning:boring:
 
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Poch would be the cheap and easy decision after he gets the sack at PSG. Ten Hag would be the right one. So of course we will go for Poch. Club comedy United
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
A name not for now but could be down the line is Iraola at Rayo Vallecano. Got them promoted back into La Liga and first season back are currently 8th but only 5 points off Champions League and just reached the semis of Copa Del Rey.
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The ex-Bilbao RB? Impressive
 
Does feel like it's aligning to be Poch. I get the impression he would be the boards preference anyway.

But surely if Rangnick is getting a say in who it is, he's going to be recommending the likes of Ten Hag and Potter...
 
I do think the club needs to take a risk. We’ve often gone with the safe and obvious choice.

Moyes was kind of unexpected but it was back in the day we thought we could be like Barca and hand it over to people with similar character traits and it’d all be fine. LVG was obvious. Mourinho was the most obvious and safe appointment and then Ole was for different reasons.

You know exactly what you’re getting with Poch and that doesn’t really excite me. At least with Ten Hag he’s unknown to the league. Klopp and Pep both came from other leagues and are only associated with their current PL teams. Like someone said, it’s weird but you don’t really want someone’s leftovers. Somebody brand new would feel good and exciting.
 
DWelbz19 said:
The ex-Bilbao RB? Impressive
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Yeah that's the one. I've only caught a few of their matches earlier this season and was impressed by the fact they were really going for it and taking the game to the opposition. Their scoring stats have calmed down a bit recently but that could be a case of them either losing steam or being more tactical now they are in European contention. I wonder if he was influenced by Bielsa at all since he managed him at Bilbao, one to watch for sure though.
 
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