Some posts being posted are beyond ridiculous.Leave PSG for a nine month interim contract
Yeah ….sign here Mauricio
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Who was the last manager to leave a big club midseason for another job?
Not sure why he deserves stick when 1, his club won't let him leave during the season regardless and 2, he has them top of their group in the CL and ready to make some noise potentially in the knockout rounds.
By most accounts, he'd be interested during the summer so I don't see why it'd be unquestionable to wait if we really wanted him. He already turned down Barcelona, who are very much aligned philosophically with Ajax, this season so it's not like he's got anything against us particularly. Just being respectful of his current employers
Good read. I agree.
Maybe Poch is indeed the safer bet, but we still don't want him to be too safe that he doesn't do more than just stay in than top 4.
Isnt that the same for any candidate?
It's consistent with his actions this summer and why I think that he isn't an option right now. He had no reason to extend his contract this summer if he was ready to leave in the middle of the season. Next I will be surprised if Zidane goes to PSG, someone else will be linked to them if Pochettino is actually willing to leave.
Same. But I’d back/support Poch 10 times over Rodgers.
It’s good of Poch to be an interim manager though
Well depends if Utd
Yeah much as Ten Hag is my first choice I am impressed IF Pochettino is really willing to take the job this season
We can't say that for sure.
That's the point with ETH - he is admittedly a bit of an unknown quantity but that's the exciting lure of him - his ceiling may be very high, and given time and resources may genuinely be a world class coach that does something special with us. We pretty much know what we're getting with Poch at this point I think.
Really weird reading some of the discussions on here, seems like people genuinely don't know what they're talking about.
Exactly, and he did a great job long before Erik ten Hag ever even worked at Ajax. Which explains why they made their first European final in 21 years under Peter Bosz in 2017. Bosz laid great foundations, by giving debuts to guys like De Ligt, De Jong, Van de Beek, playing the exact type of football Ajax wants just like Ten Hag, and of course finally getting them back on the map in Europe. A player like Ziyech was fundamental for Ajax, he was also brought in that year.
Which makes this post utterly bizarre, because it's just not true at all what you're saying there. United actually played Ajax in the 2017 EL final and you'd figure people would at least remember that, but I guess not.
Ajax have put a fantastic structure in place since 2010 under the guidance of Cruijff, their club has been run perfectly since then, with a great philosophy from the youth set-up all the way to former players in charge now who understand culture with Overmars and Edwin. They were inspired by Bayern München and the classic '70's Ajax culture. Ten Hag's doing a great job, but it can't be said enough how much he has benefited from that great structure and the success before him. They had 100+ million free to spend on transfers sitting on the bank before he came in ffs, all because of that structure and the focus on selling young home grown players again, which was all managed by Overmars.
Ten Hag was actually under massive pressure the first 6 months at Ajax, literally more pressure than I've seen any United manager being under, with angry Ajax fans storming the the team bus and going beserk because of the lack of results. But Overmars and VDS are football people unlike the idiots in charge of United, and stuck with Ten Hag and the season after they had that great CL season, also winning the domestic double for the first time in years.
Exactly, and he did a great job long before Erik ten Hag ever even worked at Ajax. Which explains why they made their first European final in 21 years under Peter Bosz in 2017. Bosz laid great foundations, by giving debuts to guys like De Ligt, De Jong, Van de Beek, playing the exact type of football Ajax wants just like Ten Hag, and of course finally getting them back on the map in Europe. A player like Ziyech was fundamental for Ajax, he was also brought in that year.
Which makes this post utterly bizarre, because it's just not true at all what you're saying there. United actually played Ajax in the 2017 EL final and you'd figure people would at least remember that, but I guess not.
Ajax have put a fantastic structure in place since 2010 under the guidance of Cruijff, their club has been run perfectly since then, with a great philosophy from the youth set-up all the way to former players in charge now who understand culture with Overmars and Edwin. They were inspired by Bayern München and the classic '70's Ajax culture. Ten Hag's doing a great job, but it can't be said enough how much he has benefited from that great structure and the success before him. They had 100+ million free to spend on transfers sitting on the bank before he came in ffs, all because of that structure and the focus on selling young home grown players again, which was all managed by Overmars.
Ten Hag was actually under massive pressure the first 6 months at Ajax, literally more pressure than I've seen any United manager being under, with angry Ajax fans storming the the team bus and going beserk because of the lack of results. But Overmars and VDS are football people unlike the idiots in charge of United, and stuck with Ten Hag and the season after they had that great CL season, also winning the domestic double for the first time in years.
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Changed my vote to Poch if there is any truth to him being willing to leave PSG mid-season. I don't like the idea of a caretaker manager for the rest of the season and the very likely constant speculation of who will take over at the end of the season.
Also, I can't imagine many clubs would be happy having it known publicly or simply winked at by the media that their manager is leaving at the end of the season - guaranteed loss of form, momentum and motivation for his current team.
Also, I can't imagine many clubs would be happy having it known publicly or simply winked at by the media that their manager is leaving at the end of the season - guaranteed loss of form, momentum and motivation for his current team.
Should we care? I don't hate the guy and he's probably looking at the Barcelona and City jobs but the stars did not align for Poch twice now, so he's ready to force it.
If you miss your chance in life, you often live to regret it. If you get another one, people usually correct their earlier mistake.
So nothing personal but also people need to realise he won't have the structure around him to do what he does now, so he's still a risk. I just cannot have another season of tumescent football to maybe have a guy come and do better.
We need a manager now and I don't want us running the risk of beating left high and dry with Brendan fecking Rodgers.
I agree with a lot of what you said espically about the lack of top quality strikers in the premier league. It’s going to be very intresting how we handle that going forward. Because while Ronaldo and Cavani are both among the top ten finishers in the game the careers are very much in there twilight. But hey we arn’t the only club in that situation and makes no difference to current situation as right now we do have Ronaldo and Cavani. No worries about the aggressive tone
.All my posts where ever saying is if you have a square shaped hole try and Try and get a square to fit in it, don’t go and think well that circle is more shiney so let’s get.
While I think Poch and Ten Hag,are great managers, (personaly I’ve wanted Poch here for years) ut I don’t think either of there styles are a natural fit for the squad we currently have and that Is a concern.
He is responsible for none of PSG signings, that's the job of Leonardo.
His Spurs record on signings wasn’t great though.
And with how bad we are at signings… well
I don't think so, not all have a clear philosphy like Pochettino that's why I think he could be a good template. Unlike someone like Ole who in all his time in charge wasn't able to build a coherent team or install a playstyle.
Not being funny but Ole is an anomaly (I’m being nice there) What top manager does not have a clear philosophy?
Im not entirely convinced Poch has one or knows what his is now though
And then that foundation was gone and he's turned things around in a short space of time with help of Overmars who did provide him the players. But he'd also have the same support at United with Murtough, and the two Dutch guys who run the recruitment department in Bout and de Regt. And I'd argue the players he'd have at United are of a higher level than the ones he's working with at Ajax.
That's true, I was answering his question. He isn't responsible for the signing at PSG and it seems that for some reason he thought that he was going to have more power and have to deal with less stars.
Yes at PSG the higher-ups impose players on their managers.
Entitled to your opinion.
Have you taken into account that his time at Spurs had a lot of early exits from cup competitions including the Europa league a few times. City and Liverpool were mostly in transition then to what they are now. Chelsea under Tuchel will be challenging those two for at least the next 3 years (I'd say longer but Roman doesn't tend to keep his managers for long)
Doesn’t bode well that he can’t read a room too then…
I think some can be more pragmatic, but that wouldn't be bad it's just that I think the team, as an institution, lacks direction. They need to decide how they want the team to play, if they want someone more progresive, pragmatic, defensive, etc. Now is an opportunity to do that.
They don't impose them but like most clubs they use head coaches not managers. The head coach doesn't lead recruitment.
Yeah totally agree that the unknown element of him would be exciting which is why I fully expect our cautious carols to take on the safer premier league experienced option in Pochettino
Pochettino is a serial bottler with a loser mentality - the worst fit for Manchester United right now...but at least he has some tactical knowledge 
I agree on that, but we know the club.
I agree with a lot of what you said espically about the lack of top quality strikers in the premier league. It’s going to be very intresting how we handle that going forward. Because while Ronaldo and Cavani are both among the top ten finishers in the game the careers are very much in there twilight. But hey we arn’t the only club in that situation and makes no difference to current situation as right now we do have Ronaldo and Cavani. No worries about the aggressive tone
All my posts where ever saying is if you have a square shaped hole try and Try and get a square to fit in it, don’t go and think well that circle is more shiney so let’s get.
While I think Poch and Ten Hag,are great managers, (personaly I’ve wanted Poch here for years) ut I don’t think either of there styles are a natural fit for the squad we currently have and that Is a concern.
how do you think their starting XIs would differ? I would imagine that they’d both focus on midfield and RB at first in terms of new signings.
Has Poch ever come out and corrected that moronic comment he made about trophies?
It's the 3rd french source reporting the same today
He arrived halfway through the season. You don't blame a manager for not winning the league when he arrives halfway through to replace someone who got sacked. This season, they're 11 points clear after just 14 games and have basically already won it. Somehow that's missing from your assessment of him. At Spurs he consistently made the top 4, finishing above City twice. He also reached the CL final and could very well have won it if not for the freakish luck of Liverpool getting a fluke handball penalty in the first minute. Spurs played some excellent football under him and were title contenders until late in the season on more than one occasion. If I could wave a magic wand and pick any manager I wanted, Pochettino wouldn't have been my first choice, but people talk as if he accomplished nothing at Spurs and has never proven that he's competent. He did exceedingly well there and did more with far fewer resources than any of our own managers have in that period.
At the end of the day, the apparent reality is that there's an accomplished manager who by all accounts is willing to come right away, and the alternate choice is a man who a) is determined to finish the season at his current club, b) has said nothing whatsoever about wanting to come here afterwards, and c) has only ever managed and played in the Netherlands. If we don't sign Poch now, it's perfectly possible that summer arrives and we find that Ten Hag doesn't actually want to come, and then we probably sign Poch anyway (or, god forbid, Rodgers) after a season with Carrick or whoever as caretaker. If we can get Poch now, it's a much more sensible choice than waiting for summer on the blind hope that Ten Hag wants to go directly from the familiar comfort of Ajax to the difficult, risky job of unraveling the tangled mess at United as his first forays into top-tier management. I could certainly see him saying no thanks to that.
The fact of the matter is that while I think Ten Hag would be an exciting prospect and someone I very much would give the opportunity to if he was available, he's not--and even then, we're simply speculating that he might be the next big thing based on very little. He has never been at a big club either as coach or as player so nobody has the faintest clue how he might do. He could be a complete failure just as easily as he could be a success. Nobody knows anything whatsoever about how Ten Hag fits in at a big club because he has simply never been at one, except for a brief stint coaching Bayern II, which means just about nothing. I would welcome him if he came, but to say that you have no faith in Poch who has done quite well in the PL, and then expressing total certainty that Ten Hag is going to conquer the world when he has literally never set foot at a big club in his life, that's bizarre to me.
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Can I throw a name in (at the risk of getting vilified...), and that is FC Porto boss, Sergio Conceicao. He's building a very good rep for himself. Porto are a good team, and I just think he may be one to watch.
Just saying (..as I don' my tin-hat and retreat ..)
Just saying (..as I don' my tin-hat and retreat ..)
No french source has reported this, from France PSG didn't contact anyone and trust Pochettino. What has been reported is that PSG likes Zidane.
See below. None of the previous Managers for Ajax managed to do anything in Europe. They've been a non entity for years and years, I didn't even bother going back before Jol, takes a bit of time to do it, so feel free to if you want. Jol was appointed back in May 2009, so they've been abysmal in Europe for a long, long time. I apologise if you think that I should be taking into account the Europa League btw, which always used to be a competition we United fans would laugh at. But nowadays it feels relevant given our standards have dropped so far. So to clarify, my post should have read that Ajax had done nothing in the Champions League before ten Hag arrived. More acceptable?
People also conveniently seem to forget his great work at Southampton and Espanyol. If anything, Poch is way more of a sure success than Ten Hag. His PSG stint so far is a bit of a blemish on his impressive resume, but people were willing to throw Tuchel under the bus and call him a shit manager because of it... Little did we know. Anyway, I think we'd all prefer Ten Hag over Poch, that's a given. He's an exciting manager that is more akin to the all or nothing approach, but to bungle this entire season just for that is ridiculous. We don't have the luxury to wait around for managers. We haven't won a trophy in 3 years, the squad is aging, right in their prime, players are leaving that we will have to replace. The time is now, not tomorrow or the day after. We also cannot afford by any means to miss on top 4 this season as that will be an utter disaster.
So yes, Ten Hag and all of that, but if he doesn't want to come now, then what's the point? Give it Carricky till end of season? At this rate half of our squad would be handing their transfer requests at the end of the season
Feels ludicrous how many people I’ve read or heard comment today that United are potentially interested in Blanc or Rangnick as an interim, due to the potential permanent managerial targets being contracted right now, despite Blanc and Rangnick both also being employed elsewhere right now.
So United are going to look to get one manager out of their contract now, so that they can then get a second manager out of their contract in the summer (unless they are sacked or it has otherwise expired)?
Think Poch is definitely the intended target if they were planning for an out of contract manager in the summer. It remains to be seen if he comes sooner.
So United are going to look to get one manager out of their contract now, so that they can then get a second manager out of their contract in the summer (unless they are sacked or it has otherwise expired)?
Think Poch is definitely the intended target if they were planning for an out of contract manager in the summer. It remains to be seen if he comes sooner.
Agreed. He's done enough to get a crack at our club for sure.
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