Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

And I know it for a fact, Crespo is simply not rated at all in the caf. The duo of him and Batigol was never going to impress the caf, no matter what support they received, and score against Desailly-Passarella-Nesta. Moreoever, it's really hard winning with 4-4-2 against 4-3-3 here :)

We all know it and they are all wrong! Crespo was a fabulous player but, as usual, people choose to keep their Chelsea memory.

Same goes for winning with a 4-4-2. Sure, it's a bit dated lately, but use the right players and it's freaking awesome! Same goes for any other tactic really.
 
We all know it and they are all wrong! Crespo was a fabulous player but, as usual, people choose to keep their Chelsea memory.

Same goes for winning with a 4-4-2. Sure, it's a bit dated lately, but use the right players and it's freaking awesome! Same goes for any other tactic really.
The irony is, I tried building it around Keane-Scholes, one of the best midfield duo in history if not the best, and I got the stick for it, although all other players were perfect for it(Baresi-Vierchowod is as good as it comes, Alberto-Figo on the right side and Breitner-Nedved on the left is very clean and industrial for a 4-4-2).

If you would've wanted to build a great 4-4-2, what two midfielders would you have chosen anto?
 
We all know it and they are all wrong! Crespo was a fabulous player but, as usual, people choose to keep their Chelsea memory.

Same goes for winning with a 4-4-2. Sure, it's a bit dated lately, but use the right players and it's freaking awesome! Same goes for any other tactic really.

Majority of the greatest teams from 80s - now used 442 or a variation of it..
 
The irony is, I tried building it around Keane-Scholes, one of the best midfield duo in history if not the best, and I got the stick for it, although all other players were perfect for it(Baresi-Vierchowod is as good as it comes, Alberto-Figo on the right side and Breitner-Nedved on the left is very clean and industrial for a 4-4-2).

If you would've wanted to build a great 4-4-2, what two midfielders would you have chosen anto?

Those two would be top of my shortlist or thereabouts.

I disagree about Breitner. Not sure why everyone is hellbent on picking him at leftback.
 
Those two would be top of my shortlist or thereabouts.

I disagree about Breitner. Not sure why everyone is hellbent on picking him at leftback.
Yeah he is always a midfielder for me, first and foremost.
I don't argue against him being best at midfield, but in that 4-4-2 it fitted.

Nedved on his side offers the shielding from the wing, while going forward I assume that Baresi-Vierchowod-Carlos Alberto(who is more defensive) is enough to defend against counters, and Breitner can add the pressure forward either by bulking up Keane-Scholes or moving forward on the flank and having Nedved cut inside for a LAM role of some sort.
@antohan you talked about the football not being linear in the other thread, and I try to look at it the same way myself when creating a draft team. I'm looking for something which might actually work in real life football. When I created this team I imagined the long balls to Crespo and Batistuta to bring down to one another, plus the joining Scholes/Nedved/Figo. If we're talking about how it might work, the fact that Breitner and Nedved can take turns between themselves adding steel to midfield should be something you'd appreciate ;)
 
I disagree about Breitner. Not sure why everyone is hellbent on picking him at leftback.
Because he won the Euro, the World Cup and the European Cup as a leftback, it's really that simple. That part of his career is a lot more popular. It's what most people think about when they hear his name, even though he was only 22 when he moved to Real and retired from the nationalteam and had his peak years ahead of him. Especially his time at Real is weirdly underrated, same with Netzer. Both together outperformed and beat Cruyff and Neeskens at Barca, yet it's largely forgotten.
 
I don't argue against him being best at midfield, but in that 4-4-2 it fitted.

Nedved on his side offers the shielding from the wing, while going forward I assume that Baresi-Vierchowod-Carlos Alberto(who is more defensive) is enough to defend against counters, and Breitner can add the pressure forward either by bulking up Keane-Scholes or moving forward on the flank and having Nedved cut inside for a LAM role of some sort.
@antohan you talked about the football not being linear in the other thread, and I try to look at it the same way myself when creating a draft team. I'm looking for something which might actually work in real life football. When I created this team I imagined the long balls to Crespo and Batistuta to bring down to one another, plus the joining Scholes/Nedved/Figo. If we're talking about how it might work, the fact that Breitner and Nedved can take turns between themselves adding steel to midfield should be something you'd appreciate ;)

Nedved was your Beckham, Figo your Giggs. Agree Figo-Alberto work very well, but Neville was an integral part of errr Beckham. They were inseparable IMO and Gaz's overlapping runs are underrated, if anything. Breitner wouldn't overlap but drift infield, he is the wrong fullback. I get the "taking turns to add steel in midfield", I did something very similar with him in my 50s side but, frankly, I would have bitten your hand off for someone like Cabrini.
 
Because he won the Euro, the World Cup and the European Cup as a leftback, it's really that simple. That part of his career is a lot more popular.

Yes, I get that, it's easier to argue when you can fall back on honours. But let's be honest, good as he was, I think you would have still won all those tournos without him. He wasn't exactly the pivotal figure he became later.

It seems people take the legendary beast (who was a midfielder) but also want the honours (as leftbaack) and assume they are one and the same player. They aren't. Paul Breitner is easily a top 10 central midfielder ever, while at leftback he is mid-teens at best IMO and arguably not even top 20 depending on your take on what makes a good leftback.
 
I think the issue with 442 formations is that you really have to set up to play on the counter as against a midfield three you'll concede a lot of possession. When most teams played 442 it was fine to play on the front foot as you'd never have such a disparity.

For a draft 442 I had this line-up in an auction draft in the newbies:

-------------Ronaldo---Batistuta----
Giggs---Sammer---Effenberg---Figo
Irwin----Kohler-------Ferdinand--Thuram
---------------------Chilavert------------------------

Got beaten by a really dysfunctional line-up:

------------------------Romario-----------
Rivaldo-------------Baggio------C. Ronaldo
-----------------Makelele--Xavi-----------------
R.Carlos--Maldini---Desailly---Maicon
--------------------------Buffon-----------------------

I really could have defended deep against his narrow and congested attack and carved him up on the counter
 
Breitner is just a psuedo left back who can be used in certain formations, where you don't need him to provide width down the left flank and have some other midfielder/forward for that. It's just his association with the vintage 72-74 German team which gave him a great reputation as a LB. He was a fine LB but in the mould of Junior - a maverick FB who had his own idiosyncratic style there. Never an orthodox LB who would be a good fit in most formations.
 
I think the issue with 442 formations is that you really have to set up to play on the counter as against a midfield three you'll concede a lot of possession. When most teams played 442 it was fine to play on the front foot as you'd never have such a disparity.

For a draft 442 I had this line-up in an auction draft in the newbies:

-------------Ronaldo---Batistuta----
Giggs---Sammer---Effenberg---Figo
Irwin----Kohler-------Ferdinand--Thuram
---------------------Chilavert------------------------

Got beaten by a really dysfunctional line-up:

------------------------Romario-----------
Rivaldo-------------Baggio------C. Ronaldo
-----------------Makelele--Xavi-----------------
R.Carlos--Maldini---Desailly---Maicon
--------------------------Buffon-----------------------

I really could have defended deep against his narrow and congested attack and carved him up on the counter

I think the main issue is with the 4-4-2 is that you have to pick wide midfielders instead of wingers and there is a notable quality difference there. Maybe not a big concern in reality but in these draft settings it is quite a big difference to have Ronaldinho instead of Nedved/Figo/Giggs. Like you say, losing out on the possession means a lot of defense which means you a very strong defense and central midfield while your strikers has to pay their worth as you are playing one extra.

Which makes it all the better to see a 4-4-2 come together.
 
cracking. midfield duo a bit deep for me but could work excellent on the counter

In retrospect I should have tried to have got Scholes in his 99-01 mode to replace Effenberg but I should have got to the next round to solve that.
 
Yes, I get that, it's easier to argue when you can fall back on honours. But let's be honest, good as he was, I think you would have still won all those tournos without him. He wasn't exactly the pivotal figure he became later.

It seems people take the legendary beast (who was a midfielder) but also want the honours (as leftbaack) and assume they are one and the same player. They aren't. Paul Breitner is easily a top 10 central midfielder ever, while at leftback he is mid-teens at best IMO and arguably not even top 20 depending on your take on what makes a good leftback.
We did win 2 European Cups without him and he wasn't that special in '72. That being said, he was obviously an incredible talent from the start and played great at leftback for 4 years before he finally moved into midfield at age 22. And Beckenbauer and Müller shit their pants when it was time to take the penalty in the final '74. Pretty much the whole team shit their pants until that arrogant young cnut called Breitner had enough, took the ball and scored the equaliser. That team kinda sucked at penalties, went on to lose the Euro final in '76 on penalties, the only penalty shootout we ever lost at Euros and World Cups. Beckenbauer chickened out, Müller and Breitner retired from the nationalteam in '74 and Hoeneß missed the crucial one.

So while I agree and often enough argued that I rate the midfielder Breitner higher than the leftback, I'm not sure we would have won the final in '74 without him. I actually doubt it. Beckenbauer, Müller or Hoeneß would have missed the penalty, I'm sure about that.

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Schweini is shit at penalties as well by the way, just missed one against Gibraltar ffs :lol:
 
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We did win 2 European Cups without him and he wasn't that special in '72. That being said, he was obviously an incredible talent from the start and played great at leftback for 4 years before he finally moved into midfield at age 22. And Beckenbauer and Müller shit their pants when it was time to take the penalty in the final '74. Pretty much the whole team shit their pants until that arrogant young cnut called Breitner had enough, took the ball and scored the equaliser. That team kinda sucked at penalties, went on to lose the Euro final in '76 on penalties, the only penalty shootout we ever lost at Euros and World Cups. Beckenbauer chickened out, Müller and Breitner retired from the nationalteam in '74 and Hoeneß missed the crucial one.

So while I agree and often enough argued that I rate the midfielder Breitner higher than the leftback, I'm not sure we would have won the final in '74 without him. I actually doubt it. Beckenbauer, Müller or Hoeneß would have missed the penalty, I'm sure about that.

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Schweini is shit at penalties as well by the way, just missed one against Gibraltar ffs :lol:

But you do realise we are talking fantasy drafts with massive pools and Breitner keep coming back as a favourite when, basically, his claim to fame in that role is that the rest of his teammates were shit at penos and chickened out of them.

I appreciate the character that comes with Breitner, but you get that -and a far better and influential player- with him in midfield.

BTW, you get the same story with Matthäus-Brehme, except that Brehme was a far better leftback!
 
But you do realise we are talking fantasy drafts with massive pools and Breitner keep coming back as a favourite when, basically, his claim to fame in that role is that the rest of his teammates were shit at penos and chickened out of them.

I appreciate the character that comes with Breitner, but you get that -and a far better and influential player- with him in midfield.
Let's not downplay his quality at leftback too much, he clearly was fantastic there as well and he finished 4th at the Ballon d'Or in 1974 for a reason.
 
Let's not downplay his quality at leftback too much, he clearly was fantastic there as well and he finished 4th at the Ballon d'Or in 1974 for a reason.

No, I don't want to downplay it, but even that Balllon d'Or surely has a lot to do with the character, his agressiveness and mentality... All things you get from him in midfield as well. Let's be clear, we are not discusssing whether he is a liability here, just whether he is being misrepresented/misused. I don't get the constant rush to go for Breitner at leftback as if he were one of the Top 5 ever, clearly isn't. Worse, people pick him and then pick inferior midfielders while keeping him at leftback, it's mental!
 
He there imo. Nilton, Maldini, Facchetti, Brehme, Carlos .. Who else do you rate higher? Marzolini, Schnellinger perhaps?

A fair few. I don't even know why you even go for big names from the past: I rate prime Evra as a better leftback. Sure, not in that German side, but in most setups. E.g. Viva's 4-4-2 above, I'd much rather Evra behind Nedved than Breitner.
 
A fair few. I don't even know why you even go for big names from the past: I rate prime Evra as a better leftback. Sure, not in that German side, but in most setups. E.g. Viva's 4-4-2 above, I'd much rather Evra behind Nedved than Breitner.
Krol, Carbrini, Briegel and maybe even Lizarazu could be added if we are talking about your orthodox LB.

Why distinguish between orthodox or not here? It's him as left back simply put. Maybe like Pirlo he needs a special setup to bring his best but doesn't make him less of a GOAT! As Balu said 4th in Balon d'Or is better than most others you mentioned!
 
Why distinguish between orthodox or not here? It's him as left back simply put. Maybe like Pirlo he needs a special setup to bring his best but doesn't make him less of a GOAT! As Balu said 4th in Balon d'Or is better than most others you mentioned!

And? George Best is a GOAT, but probably not the best guy to play in a diamond.

And the point is: he is a midfield GOAT, not a leftback GOAT. Christ...
 
And? George Best is a GOAT, but probably not the best guy to play in a diamond.

And the point is: he is a midfield GOAT, not a leftback GOAT. Christ...

Wut? tbh, though he was better in midfield, the competition there is much tougher. I wouldn't consider him a GOAT there, unless you narrow it down to right midfielder (excl wingers) alone. Anyways his Balon d'Or performance was in left back role not in midfielder role, iirc!
 
Wut? tbh, though he was better in midfield, the competition there is much tougher. I wouldn't consider him a GOAT there, unless you narrow it down to right midfielder (excl wingers) alone. Anyways his Balon d'Or performance was in left back role not in midfielder role, iirc!

If you recall? The Ballon d'Or isn't awarded on a single game performance, for starters. And why would I care? Firstly, it's an indicator (at fourth place, not first) and provides no proof of him being a great leftback anyhow. Watch him in those early days and you will struggle to make a case for him being a leftback at all, more a free-role defender who spent most of his time in midfield (pretty much anywhere, often even going up the right flank, like left fullbacks regularly do, right?).

What was impressive about him was that, not his work as a leftback. What was impressive was Paul Breitner the midfielder who still somehow managed to track back and do a decent disciplined job at leftback, but he wasn't one or stood out as one. You only actually realised he was supposedly the leftback when the oppo had the ball and he managed to get back in position (not always, sometimes the rival attack would find him at right-half).

It just happened to be the case that both Bayern and Germany played a defensive RB (Hansen/Vogts) and left CB (Schwarzenbeck) who were the ones staying back for cover. Beckenbauer as libero typically influenced the game from deep and you could easily argue conformed a back three with them. Breitner wasn't part of a flat back four but a spare wheel in it with some defensive duties on the left. He looked a cracking player, let alone at his age, but I doubt anyone back in the early 70s thought he was a great leftback, or considered him for Balon d'Or on that basis, more like a great footballer who exerted his influence overloading different areas of the pitch.

If he were playing as leftback in a similar setup, with complete freedom to pretty much play as a midfielder most of the game when in possession, then fine. But my fundamental problem is I rarely if ever see him deployed that way at all. He is either supposed to be minding someone or providing width. In fairness to @VivaJanuzaj, he did make the point earlier that his midfield wasn't vulnerable since both Nedved and Breitner would be beefing it up most of the time, which would be using Breitner for what he was... but then the problem was he was facing Matthews so he was either dealing with one problem or the other really, which is why I was saying earlier someone like peak Evra (not Facchetti, Maldini, Nilton... Evra) would do a far better job in the defensive phase while also being more useful once in possession as he would be overlapping with Nedved, which is exactly what was required. If you play 4-4-2 you need the width, if you won't have it on one side then ditch your 4-4-2 because it is fundamentally flawed.

Not sure why you list him as a possible great right midfielder. Why right midfielder/not winger? He wasn't exactly David Beckham. In central midfield, box-to-box, Paul Breitner is a GOAT, he was boss, Top 5 ever, without a shadow of a doubt. Left fullback? I wouldn't have much trouble listing 20 better, left wingback he has a better shot but that's not what most seem to play him as, at all.

All in all, if you are lucky enough to get Paul Breitner (usually a rather early round pick is required) then play him in fecking midfield for god's sake.
 
Wut? tbh, though he was better in midfield, the competition there is much tougher. I wouldn't consider him a GOAT there, unless you narrow it down to right midfielder (excl wingers) alone. Anyways his Balon d'Or performance was in left back role not in midfielder role, iirc!

He finished 2nd in 1981 on the basis of his midfield performances.
 
Left fullback? I wouldn't have much trouble listing 20 better, left wingback he has a better shot but that's not what most seem to play him as, at all.
I think that's a bit harsh to be honest. I'd rather have Breitner in my team and adjust the rest of the team than play many many other fullbacks. In fantasy football draft world, teams are usually full of all time greats, so Breitner at leftback becomes a bit of a problem. Fair enough. In the real world, even a team with a few more goats like Germany/Bayern could allow him to influence the game in his free leftback role as he wanted. Schnellinger for example also poses a bit of a problem in a diamond, doesn't mean he's not a top 10 or even top 5 leftback of all time. I wouldn't want Vogts as a rightback in a diamond either (or Djalma, even Carlos Alberto is probably a bit too slow and defensive to own the wing without help).

Fullbacks very often are transformed players. If you're talented enough to make it at the top, you usually play in more important positions as a youth player. That's why pretty much all the great fullbacks were actually wingers, midfielders or centerbacks. They were forced into the leftback/rightback position out of necessity in the team and made it their own. It also means they often are very different players and offer totally different things.

Would I prefer Evra over Breitner as the leftback in a diamond? Yes. Does that make Evra a better leftback than Breitner? Hell no, not even close.
 
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I think that's a bit harsh to be honest. I'd rather have Breitner in my team and adjust the rest of the team than play many many other fullbacks. In fantasy football draft world, teams are usually full of all time greats, so Breitner at leftback becomes a bit of a problem. Fair enough. In the real world, even a team with a few more goats like Germany/Bayern could allow him to influence the game in his free leftback role as he wanted. Schnellinger for example also poses a bit of a problem in a diamond, doesn't mean he's not a top 10 or even top 5 leftback of all time. I wouldn't want Vogts as a rightback in a diamond either (or Djalma, even Carlos Alberto is probably a bit too slow and defensive to own the wing without help).

Fullbacks very often are transformed players. If you're talented enough to make it at the top, you usually play in more important positions as a youth player. That's why pretty much all the great fullbacks were actually wingers, midfielders or centerbacks. They were forced into the leftback/rightback position out of necessity in the team and made it their own. It also means they often are very different players and offer totally different things.

Would I prefer Evra over Breitner as the leftback in a diamond? Yes. Does that make Evra a better leftback than Breitner? Hell no, not even close.

I would say it was their superiority that allowed them to play him in such a role. The other three at the back were perfect to allow for that, and it was a great solution to midfields which had a relative excess/abundance of quality attack-minded midfielders.

Instead of fielding "a holding midfielder/battler" and losing an AM, while having a traditional leftback, what you were doing was letting a Netzer/Overath play his own game by letting Breitner provide the steel in midfield. It was genius, it worked brilliantly, and it required a player like Breitner not any of the 20 leftbacks I'm saying are better than him at that role. But it was a very specific setup, so much so I struggle to think of any similar cases (bar Junior).

Breitner was a better footballer than Evra, but Evra a better leftback in 9 out of 10 possible setups. Definitely in the most common ones and, crucially, the ones he has been deployed in of late (which is the entire point of my argument). If you look at my 50s final side, clearly I wouldn't pick Evra, and I valued what Breitner could do there patrolling the flank while also providing the support/cover in midfield that would make a Schuster-Falcao midfield feasible/performant. A Cabrini would be better at providing width, but with Elkjaer and Boniek upfront it was probably better to have that roaming midfielder unleashing Bernd and Paulo.

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Agree fullbacks are a mixed bunch, but the Vogts/Gentile/Burgnich deep-defending role is far more common than the roaming free role Breitner had as a leftback, which is why I struggle to see him in a "leftback" category because he is the exception rather than the rule with regards to what a leftback ever does.

Let's be clear here, I'm not running down Breitner, just pissed at how he is completely misrepresented. If anything, the one running him down is EAP questioning his GOAT status in midfield. That's where he belongs, not at leftback.
 
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But it was a very specific setup, so much so I struggle to think of any similar cases (bar Junior).
Lahm at leftback with Ze Roberto in CM was pretty much the same for example, maybe in a less chaotic way but basically the same nevertheless. I'm always critical when someone uses Lahm as a regular leftback and expects him to provide real width from there. I'd say it's quite easy to build a team that gets the best out of such a fullback, all you need is either a left CM who loves to drift wide or a real winger who doesn't prefer to cut inside and shoot himself. Obviously you should have that in mind if you pick Breitner early in a draft and want to make use of his versatility. Playing him in midfield is of course the easier way to go and makes more sense. There's a reason why Breitner always plays in midfield in my all time German side ;).

Whatever way you look at it, Breitner at leftback was an individually better and more influential player than Evra at leftback. I don't care if he was kinda unique and if it isn't as easy to get the best out of him. It clearly makes him a better leftback than someone like Evra.
 
Lahm at leftback with Ze Roberto in CM was pretty much the same for example, maybe in a less chaotic way but basically the same nevertheless.

Yeah, that was more akin to the more disciplined role Junior had at leftback in 1982. That's an interesting exaample in terms of discciplined vs. chaotic. Watch them in 82 with Falcao and it flows and you clearly see how it works (much like Lahm-Zé), watch Brazil-Germany friendlies in 1981 and Junior is chaos personified.

Whatever way you look at it, Breitner at leftback was an individually better and more influential player than Evra at leftback. I don't care if he was kinda unique and if it isn't as easy to get the best out of him. It clearly makes him a better leftback than someone like Evra.

We are clearly never going to agree as we seem to define the concepts differently. Both Breitner and Junior were better, more influential footballers than Evra, but I wouldn't have them down as great leftbacks. The fullback element of the role was almost an afterthought and their entire point of being on the pitch a different one.

Unfortunately for Brazil, Breitner>Junior and the other three chaps were nowhere near as good as Schwarzenbeck-Beckenbauer-Vogts/Hansen/Hottges (and Leandro was nothing like any of these three).
 
I see your points @antohan . I agree. I don't know as much about Breitner as you(I'm in Germany for the last month and everybody keeps telling me I look exactly like him), but I see your points, definitely.

It's all about learning, as EAP said in a post somewhere, I play these drafts by making mistakes and than knowing better to the next one, and trying new stuff while also trying to win the bloody thing :)
 
A few ideas I had for spicing up the match threads:

Split the match into two halves (and two threads, more later) and place a heavier emphasis on your prediction of your opponents set-up. Possible require each poster to provide an expected line-up and show how their line-up will work against it. This would allow players to throw curve balls in the first half and gain a tactical advantage. I remember Anto going gung-ho Magyar completely unexpectedly, his argument was they wouldn't know what hit them and would be three up at half time. Problem was, no-one bought it. If we were to split it first and second half then this approach is more feasible and would make it more tactically interesting.

Related to this we should go for a score rather than who would just win. The problem with this is that some posters could have more weight than others however if we require all voters to post (a simple sentence will do) it should avoid stupid scan scores. If we go the two halves idea the options per half would be:

0-0
1-1
2-2
0-1
0-2
1-2
1-0
2-1
2-0

Then take the average scores for each side, say 1.79 and 0.4. Then you'd start the second half thread with the half time score of 2-0. At this point allow subs and run the second half (no more subs). Obviously this minimises the time for subs but they should make more sense. Then calculate the second half scores 1.1 and 1.89, so overall the score would be 3-2.

The big problem with this it would make sense to have each poll as 12hour consecutively which isn't feasible. Playing over two days would drag it out. So you could have two consecutive 6 or 8 hr polls but it could be difficult to administer. Anyway, wanted to throw it out there to see if it could be modded to a workable format.
 
That went well @Physiocrat :lol:

You are trying to address too many things there, too many moving parts would make it impractical. Why not focus on the scoreline first? That's something we have talked about in the past and which deserves consideration. Problem is, if we struggled to keep up with who was winning with the "manager double votes", imagine if we had to tally up scorelines... Then there's the double-edged sword of giving people the option of switching votes from 3-1 to 2-1, then over to 3-2... I like it and would be all over the numbers all day, but not sure it is that attractive to the more casual participant.

Anyway, you need to tame that beast before you even talk about two halves.
 
so what are the options for the next one?

1. 40s - aldo
2. current EPL - nopace
3. reality draft(whats that :scared) - EAP
4. chain draft - EAP
5. The Restriction Draft - chester

apologizes if i missed someones idea....this are the suggestions for the next one. Think the EPL and chain were the most popular ideas.


ps: really liked 3 year peak so i hope we will continue with this rule in every draft bar the current ones.
 
The three year peak has always been a rule, so much so that we have often had arguments when using current players over whether they have had a long enough peak or we are projecting a peak.

It's just had more emphasis in the OP and from the managers.

Reality Draft has been played already, was pretty awesome. You got a random player you absolutely had to play + a GOAT defender, midfielder and forward you also HAD to play. I got Hierro, Gerrard and Raúl and still won it :D And yes, they were supposed to be GOATs.

I was somewhat helped by other random events (AWOL + Injury taking two of my GOATs away so I could use my picks and not that rubbish).
 
Whatever happens next I think you want to keep the pool fresh. And, dare I say it, have a wee break to ensure you get a squad of hungry and focused managers who'll get the draft completed in a tighter timescale.