I'd be up for no mate's or South American as well.
Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions
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My opinion don't matter but instead of a 'Reserve Draft', I strongly recommend a 'Loser Draft': all the players who have never won a major trophy like the Champions League, the World Cup, The Euro and the Copa America. So refreshing 
Of course, a Monopoly Draft would be a great idea as well
1. I agree
2. Yeah, I'm a big fan of "big squads" because you can make a lot of changes between 2 games. For example, I've changed 5 players in my starting 11 between my 1st game & second game. And now, I will certainly introduce 3 or 4 new players for my next game.
2. That is why, the 'Loser draft' is an option you should assess IMHO
I agree
An excellent idea if you want:
- a mix of GOATS and "trivial players".
- compare comparable players
Of course, a Monopoly Draft would be a great idea as well
1. I agree
2. Yeah, I'm a big fan of "big squads" because you can make a lot of changes between 2 games. For example, I've changed 5 players in my starting 11 between my 1st game & second game. And now, I will certainly introduce 3 or 4 new players for my next game.
2. That is why, the 'Loser draft' is an option you should assess IMHO
I agree
An excellent idea if you want:
- a mix of GOATS and "trivial players".
- compare comparable players
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Seems like everyone is keen on different players getting a run out. Like the sound of Downcast loser draft to be honest. Stops the lists of achievements and the player with the greatest cv wins. Be some real research going into it aswell.
The Billy No Mates 67-87 is also an interesting one and could be be viewed as a 'Modern Draft with restrictions in terms of squad building'
Regarding the next Auction Draft, 2 suggestions:
1. When there are 16 managers bidding, then we have to make the following rule 'minimum of 4 or 5 millions upbid in the first 8 hours'
2. Then, if you have only 8 managers bidding, so a '3 million upbid' would be great.
EAP had a great idea regarding the change of the minimum upbid in the current draft so that the bidding process:
1. Would be more manageable
2. Urge the managers to submit the players and limit the level of the 'waiting game'
3. Would take less time
Regarding the next Auction Draft, 2 suggestions:
1. When there are 16 managers bidding, then we have to make the following rule 'minimum of 4 or 5 millions upbid in the first 8 hours'
2. Then, if you have only 8 managers bidding, so a '3 million upbid' would be great.
EAP had a great idea regarding the change of the minimum upbid in the current draft so that the bidding process:
1. Would be more manageable
2. Urge the managers to submit the players and limit the level of the 'waiting game'
3. Would take less time
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We already made a Reserve Draft and a Reserve Reserve Draft.
I think you could avoid a list of 150 blocked players.
In the reserve reserve draft, the quality of the remaining players was still extremely high.
I think you could avoid a list of 150 blocked players.
In the reserve reserve draft, the quality of the remaining players was still extremely high.
1. Billy No Mates '67-'87:
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Maybe, you could add 'Loser Draft' (@P-Nut0712 seems interested for example), 'Monopoly' and other ideas!!
You may specify a deadline to submit a preference and tag some previous participating managers.
You may specify a deadline to submit a preference and tag some previous participating managers.
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Look at all drafts so far and ban every single player ever picked for a draft. Hehe.
Re: Loser draft.
Could certainly work. There's a question of making sure the featured players are actually interesting, though. As said before, having pools of non-obvious players shouldn't be a goal in itself. It's easy to fill a pool with no-marks, but the novelty would wear off pretty quickly, I think.
If you define “major trophy” as WC, CL (EC)/Libertadores and Euro/CA – it should be possible to fill a pool with mostly interesting (in one way or another) players. If you define a winner's medal from one of the big leagues as a major trophy too – I think you're in trouble.
You'll need close to 200 players, after all.
Re: Auction drafts.
They're a bit crap, IMO – so there's that.
But if there is to be a point to 'em, I think you need to have some restrictions. People can't be allowed to nominate freely – that's one thing.
I don't think people should be allowed to enter bids whenever they're arsed – within a permanently open window – either. Do sessions, i.e. windows that are only open for a limited period. Have the playing managers commit to being online between X and Y – and if they can't, they either pull out, or make sure they have an AM who can represent them.
Could certainly work. There's a question of making sure the featured players are actually interesting, though. As said before, having pools of non-obvious players shouldn't be a goal in itself. It's easy to fill a pool with no-marks, but the novelty would wear off pretty quickly, I think.
If you define “major trophy” as WC, CL (EC)/Libertadores and Euro/CA – it should be possible to fill a pool with mostly interesting (in one way or another) players. If you define a winner's medal from one of the big leagues as a major trophy too – I think you're in trouble.
You'll need close to 200 players, after all.
Re: Auction drafts.
They're a bit crap, IMO – so there's that.
But if there is to be a point to 'em, I think you need to have some restrictions. People can't be allowed to nominate freely – that's one thing.
I don't think people should be allowed to enter bids whenever they're arsed – within a permanently open window – either. Do sessions, i.e. windows that are only open for a limited period. Have the playing managers commit to being online between X and Y – and if they can't, they either pull out, or make sure they have an AM who can represent them.
You mean the reserve draft, I take it. A reserve reserve draft hasn't been done - yet. As I take it, Mustard's idea is to block
a) All the GOATs and whatnots who were blocked in Aldo's reserve draft (i.e. a list based on a previous all-time draft)
and
b) all the players who actually featured in Aldo's reserve draft.
That hasn't been done - and it may be a good way to achieve what many seem to want here, namely a draft featuring players on something like a third tier in terms of (historical) recognition/status in the game.
For my money, the above makes more sense than a draft with specific restrictions: Many of those third tier boys will have won major trophies - but that doesn't mean they're particularly shiny names, or fancied options: In fact, they may be precisely the sort of players we're talking about here - unfancied, in the grand scheme of things, but nevertheless very good and interesting players.
Leaning towards the South American draft, although I think the other two ideas are also pretty interesting and would participate in either of them.
1. Billy No Mates '67-'87:
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
I had a couple of ideas around the chain draft. One was keep the chain going theme, where a manager can only pick a player that has played (or managed or was managed by) with the player previous manager picked. With some sort of wild cards (like international games etc) thrown to make the theme feasible.
The other was a multiple league chain draft, where you have to pick a certain number of players from each league, but can only pick players who have played with your previously picked players. This makes the bridge players who have played multiple leagues very valueable and allow you to move from leagues to leagues.
Since there are many draft ideas floating around at the moment, would keep these into the draft idea backlog.
1. Billy No Mates '67-'87:
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
I had a couple of ideas around the chain draft. One was keep the chain going theme, where a manager can only pick a player that has played (or managed or was managed by) with the player previous manager picked. With some sort of wild cards (like international games etc) thrown to make the theme feasible.
The other was a multiple league chain draft, where you have to pick a certain number of players from each league, but can only pick players who have played with your previously picked players. This makes the bridge players who have played multiple leagues very valueable and allow you to move from leagues to leagues.
Since there are many draft ideas floating around at the moment, would keep these into the draft idea backlog.
Blocked (The GOATs and whatnots):
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-reserves-draft-quarters.416155/#post-19013215
In addition to that, you block all the players below:
...and go from there.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/all-time-reserves-draft-quarters.416155/#post-19013215
In addition to that, you block all the players below:
1. Stobzilla & KM - 1. Enzo Francescoli 2. Fritz Walter 3. Juan Joya 4. Roger Marche 5. Nestor Goncalves 6. Larbi Ben M'barek 7. Branko Stankovic 8. Leonel Alvarez 9 Wladyslaw Zmuda 10. Jerzy Gorgon 11. Silvio Piola
2. Downcast - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Rensenbrink 3. Osvaldo Ardiles 4. Gerrard 5. Vieri 6. Rep 7. Hulshoff 8. Frank De Boer 9. Buzánszky 10. Neuer 11. Abidal 12. Pluskal
3. RedTiger - 1. Gianni Rivera 2. Stielike 3. Bossis 4. J.Greaves 5. Donadoni 6. Lucio 7. Boban 8. Reuter 9. Sanchis 10. van der Sar 11. Heynckes 12. Wimmer
4. Sjor Bepo & Invictus - 1. Gérson 2. Förster 3. Riva 4. Kaltz 5. Wright 6. Orsi 7. Häßler 8. Marinho 9. Néstor Rossi 10. Julinho 11. Scarone 12. Hellström
5. Tuppet - 1. Florian Albert 2. Thomas Muller 3. Blanchflower 4. Josef Bican 5. Roberto Perfumo 6. Bonhof 7. Morten Olsen 8. Leandro Ferreira 9. Valentino Mazzola 10. Renzo De Vecchi 11. Amadeo Carrizo 12. Felix Loustau
6. Aldo Staine - 1. Teófilo Cubillas 2. Mario Kempes 3. Pietro Vierchowod 4. Armando Picchi 5. Preben Elkjær Larsen 6. Amancio Amaro 7. Joan Segarra 8. Dunga 9. Fritz Szepan 10. Willy Sagnol 11. Gilmar 12. Gattuso
7. Chesterlestreet - 1. Matthias Sindelar 2. Kazimierz Deyna 3. Grzegorz Lato 4. Wilhelmus "Wim" Jansen 5. Roberto Rosato 6. Zito 7. J. Armfield 8. B. Lennox, 9. Cesare Maldini 10. D. Zoff 11. Ricardo Pavoni 12. Giacomo Bulgarelli
8. Isotope - 1. Sandro Mazzola 2. Tostao 3. Ciro Ferrara 4. Gianluca Zambrotta 5. Ince 6. Just Fontaine 7. H.J. Dörner 8. Cambiasso 9. Sol Campbell 10. G. Buffon 11. Branco 12. J. Angloma
9. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Uwe Seeler 2. B. Conti 3. Ruggeri 4. Lerby 5. Labruna 6. Hanappi 7. Khurtsilava 8. Gemmell 9. Pedernera 10. J. Carey 11. Croy 12. Barnes
10. harms & Annah - 1. Zizinho 2. Keizer 3. Netto 4. D. Alves 5. Leonidas Da Silva 6. Streltsov 7. Clodoaldo 8. Byrne 9. Buchwald 10. Jonquet 11. Ghiggia 12. Planicka
11. green_smiley - 1. Dixie Dean 2. Dobrin 3. Luis Pereira 4. Israël 5. Romeo Benetti 6. Di Bartolomei 7. Jorginho 8. Magico Gonzalez 9. Antonio Benarrivo 10. Mario Corso 11. Ferenc Bene 12. Beara
12. BBRBB - 1- Nils Liedholm 2. Júnior 3. Alain Giresse 4. Diego Godín 5. Thiago Silva 6. Nándor Hidegkuti 7. Héctor Rial 8. Maicon 9. Mascherano 10. Juninho Pernambucano 11. Joël Bats 12. Vavá
13. Physiocrat - 1. Kaka 2. Zagallo 3. Modric 4. Cerezo 5. Evra 6. Taylor 7. W. Samuel 8. Mats Hummels 9. G Neville 10. A. Kanchelskis 11. G. Mendieta 12. Toldo
14. mazhar13 & Marty1968 - 1. W. Overath 2. H.G.Schwarzenbeck 3. H. Szymaniak 4. H. Crespo 5. F. Causio 6. M. Tassotti 7. K. Augenthaler 8. H. Haller 9. A. Carboni 10. L. Skoglund 11. Zenga 12. H. Schäfer
15. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. L Brady 2. N Stiles 3. K Dalglish 4. I Rush 5. VR Andrade 6. Danny Blind 7. J Ceulemans 8. Michel 9. M A Nadal 10. E Hughes 11. G Grosics 12. P Neal
16. Enigma_87 - 1. Allan Simonsen 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stojkovic 4. David Villa 5. Bratseth 6. Willi Schulz 7. Volodymyr Bezsonov 8. Bernard Dietz 9. Papin 10. Čajkovski 11. Schumacher 12. Conte
2. Downcast - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Rensenbrink 3. Osvaldo Ardiles 4. Gerrard 5. Vieri 6. Rep 7. Hulshoff 8. Frank De Boer 9. Buzánszky 10. Neuer 11. Abidal 12. Pluskal
3. RedTiger - 1. Gianni Rivera 2. Stielike 3. Bossis 4. J.Greaves 5. Donadoni 6. Lucio 7. Boban 8. Reuter 9. Sanchis 10. van der Sar 11. Heynckes 12. Wimmer
4. Sjor Bepo & Invictus - 1. Gérson 2. Förster 3. Riva 4. Kaltz 5. Wright 6. Orsi 7. Häßler 8. Marinho 9. Néstor Rossi 10. Julinho 11. Scarone 12. Hellström
5. Tuppet - 1. Florian Albert 2. Thomas Muller 3. Blanchflower 4. Josef Bican 5. Roberto Perfumo 6. Bonhof 7. Morten Olsen 8. Leandro Ferreira 9. Valentino Mazzola 10. Renzo De Vecchi 11. Amadeo Carrizo 12. Felix Loustau
6. Aldo Staine - 1. Teófilo Cubillas 2. Mario Kempes 3. Pietro Vierchowod 4. Armando Picchi 5. Preben Elkjær Larsen 6. Amancio Amaro 7. Joan Segarra 8. Dunga 9. Fritz Szepan 10. Willy Sagnol 11. Gilmar 12. Gattuso
7. Chesterlestreet - 1. Matthias Sindelar 2. Kazimierz Deyna 3. Grzegorz Lato 4. Wilhelmus "Wim" Jansen 5. Roberto Rosato 6. Zito 7. J. Armfield 8. B. Lennox, 9. Cesare Maldini 10. D. Zoff 11. Ricardo Pavoni 12. Giacomo Bulgarelli
8. Isotope - 1. Sandro Mazzola 2. Tostao 3. Ciro Ferrara 4. Gianluca Zambrotta 5. Ince 6. Just Fontaine 7. H.J. Dörner 8. Cambiasso 9. Sol Campbell 10. G. Buffon 11. Branco 12. J. Angloma
9. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Uwe Seeler 2. B. Conti 3. Ruggeri 4. Lerby 5. Labruna 6. Hanappi 7. Khurtsilava 8. Gemmell 9. Pedernera 10. J. Carey 11. Croy 12. Barnes
10. harms & Annah - 1. Zizinho 2. Keizer 3. Netto 4. D. Alves 5. Leonidas Da Silva 6. Streltsov 7. Clodoaldo 8. Byrne 9. Buchwald 10. Jonquet 11. Ghiggia 12. Planicka
11. green_smiley - 1. Dixie Dean 2. Dobrin 3. Luis Pereira 4. Israël 5. Romeo Benetti 6. Di Bartolomei 7. Jorginho 8. Magico Gonzalez 9. Antonio Benarrivo 10. Mario Corso 11. Ferenc Bene 12. Beara
12. BBRBB - 1- Nils Liedholm 2. Júnior 3. Alain Giresse 4. Diego Godín 5. Thiago Silva 6. Nándor Hidegkuti 7. Héctor Rial 8. Maicon 9. Mascherano 10. Juninho Pernambucano 11. Joël Bats 12. Vavá
13. Physiocrat - 1. Kaka 2. Zagallo 3. Modric 4. Cerezo 5. Evra 6. Taylor 7. W. Samuel 8. Mats Hummels 9. G Neville 10. A. Kanchelskis 11. G. Mendieta 12. Toldo
14. mazhar13 & Marty1968 - 1. W. Overath 2. H.G.Schwarzenbeck 3. H. Szymaniak 4. H. Crespo 5. F. Causio 6. M. Tassotti 7. K. Augenthaler 8. H. Haller 9. A. Carboni 10. L. Skoglund 11. Zenga 12. H. Schäfer
15. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. L Brady 2. N Stiles 3. K Dalglish 4. I Rush 5. VR Andrade 6. Danny Blind 7. J Ceulemans 8. Michel 9. M A Nadal 10. E Hughes 11. G Grosics 12. P Neal
16. Enigma_87 - 1. Allan Simonsen 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stojkovic 4. David Villa 5. Bratseth 6. Willi Schulz 7. Volodymyr Bezsonov 8. Bernard Dietz 9. Papin 10. Čajkovski 11. Schumacher 12. Conte
...and go from there.
I think the player pool for Reserve Draft v2 and Loser Draft may have lot if overlaps, so would make sense to combine the two. Have a Reserve Reserve Draft with at least 4 players to have not won any major trophy.
Yeah, this is one of my suggestions: to ban the winners of the following competitions: World-Cup + Euro/Copa America + Champions League/European Cup.
My intention was not to block the winners of the major leagues
The 'Loser draft' is maybe overly restrictive so your idea would be a great compromise.
Yeah, in this scenario, you just need to make a nice classification
Striker: Ronaldo, Kocsis, Luis Suarez...
Forward/SS: Rivaldo,...
LW: Best, ...
RW: Garrincha...
AM: ...
CM: ....
Up to you to know if you want changes like:
- Gallardo, Saviola, Ortega, Aimar instead of Maradona-Messi-Moreno
- Leonardo, Rai instead of Zico, Tonaldinho
- Marquinhos instead of Lucio
- Ayala-Pochettino instead of Passarella
- Anelka-Wiltord instead of Henry
- Pauleta instead of Cristiano Ronaldo
- Maniche instead of Coluna
Well, each idea has his pros and cons depending your preferences.
Some want a focus on a specific geographical area: Serie A, South-America
Some want a focus on a specific era (67-87): Billy No Mates
Some want new players: Reserve Draft part 2 with or without a 'Loser Criteria'
Some want more strategy: Billy No Mates, Multiple League
Some want more luck: Monopoly.
In any case, do you want another SF and Finals with players like Maradona, Pelé, & co?
You may also customize the process.
For example, if you play a 'Serie A' or 'Billy No Mates draft', then you could say:
- before round 1:' snake draft' to choose your players
- between R1 & R2 'A sheep process
- between R2 & R3 'an Auction Draft process'
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Aye, that's it summarised to a tee. The downsides:
- It will be a bit of a ball ache searching a list of 400 players to make sure a pick is valid
- Voter turnout might be low as there might be a fair few unknown players and it could be difficult to seperate the teams
It would, however, completely remove the GOATs and the usual bunch of supporting acts from discussion for a change. We'd actually cast our nets a bit deeper and I'd be somewhat surprised if anyone has heard of all the players who end up getting drafted. For the managers that favour modern players, I imagine alot of currently active or recently retired players could be pitched in at this level without looking out of place. The match threads themselves mightn't be great (although are they ever consistently that good?) but I think the drafting could be pretty rewarding.
In this case, a classification is required: Striker/Fwd/AM/Box-to-Box/DM/LW/RW/LB/RB/Sweeper/Stopper/GK
You would have around 25 players per category to be checked.
I'm generally not a fan of combining concepts. Every draft should have a clear theme. Each of the ones suggested so far has merit as a draft in its own right.
Put me down for either the Reserve Reserve or the South American.
Put me down for either the Reserve Reserve or the South American.
1. Billy No Mates '67-'87:
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
Gio
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Gio
@Gio
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
Gio
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Gio
@Gio
The number of 1st and 2nd tier players in each category will vary (greatly), so that doesn't really make sense. GOAT lists (and the 2nd tier equivalent) favour attackers, generally.
I don't think we need to over-complicate this - just block all the players in question.
What will happen is that a small-ish list of players (mainly attackers) who didn't make the cut for one reason or another in the reserve draft, will emerge - and become the most attractive targets. But after that group has been gobbled up, it's anyone's guess who will be picked next - and the overall strength of the teams will be, I think, quite unpredictable for a change.
Making sure your picks aren't blocked is a bit of a PIA, I agree - but it's no more than a quick CTRL-F to make sure every time.
EDIT Nevermind, I thought you were suggesting that players should be blocked according to categories. Yes, sorting the already blocked players in categories could be done, of course - but again it's really not more complicated than posting a list of names and have people search it CTRL-F style to make sure their pick is valid.
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@Chesterlestreet
Yeah, CTRL-F should be a reflex.
The idea was just to get a quick overview of the blocked players.
Yeah, CTRL-F should be a reflex.
The idea was just to get a quick overview of the blocked players.
More importantly, who's running the next one?
I take it you want to wait with the Monopoly one? So, the next one will be No Mates, S-America or Reserves II.
If you settle on Reserves II, I can run that - shouldn't be very time consuming, pretty standard format, runs itself really.
yeah, I prefer to play the next one. Something serious...with Monopoly break after sounds nice.
Seems South America has no mod-takers, it falls to between you and physiocrat.
S-America should be straight-forward too, in terms of running it - so if nobody else wants to take it, I can run that one as well.
Some discussion is needed on that one, though - to iron it out some. Completely open pool, for instance? How do we regard players who have caps for European national teams? Probably some other issues as well.
Since it's the first of a kind, I'd keep it simple. Born in South America. Or you could expand it all Americas to get representation from Mexico et al. US/Canada don't have much value anyway. So yeah, anyone born in North/Central/South America would be eligible.
One could say that the small handful of CONCACAF players people would pick in a draft like this – are bound to be well known, and as such not very interesting in terms of introducing fresh faces to the drafts.
But there might be an exception or two to that rule, so yes – The Americas Draft sounds good. All players who were a) born in or b) represented * a country that is currently a CONMEBOL or CONCACAF member – are eligible.
* To avoid any possible absurdities arising from a mere technicality.
But there might be an exception or two to that rule, so yes – The Americas Draft sounds good. All players who were a) born in or b) represented * a country that is currently a CONMEBOL or CONCACAF member – are eligible.
* To avoid any possible absurdities arising from a mere technicality.
Someone should assess the pool too see if there aren't too much of Ronaldo's and Rivaldo's available - or it will be the same set of familiar faces in the later rounds.
There will be - without any doubt. So, if this is a concern (and it should be, in fairness) we need to think about blocking some players.
Yep, I don't think it's worth it if all the new names would be replaced after the QFs.
I won't play in it anyway so I can probably help with the blocked list if needed
1. Billy No Mates '67-'87:
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
Gio
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Gio
4. Chinese Super League Draft:
Invictus
Physiocrat
2. South American:
EAP
Mazhar
Tuppet
Gio
3. Reserves Draft Part Two:
Pat Mustard
Gio
4. Chinese Super League Draft:
Invictus
Keepers aren't the standout area, of course - but let's say Fillol versus Chilavert.
CBs neither the standout area, but any combination out of Figueroa, Santamaría, Passarella, Chumpitaz, Da Guia...versus another combination - should look half decent, and a half.
Then you can have Cafu/Carlos versus Djalma/Nilton at FB (without mentioning several others candidates).
And then - it just gets ridiculous, with an embarrassment of riches all over the place.
So, yeah - the teams will be GOAT heavy and then some in the latter stages.
CBs neither the standout area, but any combination out of Figueroa, Santamaría, Passarella, Chumpitaz, Da Guia...versus another combination - should look half decent, and a half.
Then you can have Cafu/Carlos versus Djalma/Nilton at FB (without mentioning several others candidates).
And then - it just gets ridiculous, with an embarrassment of riches all over the place.
So, yeah - the teams will be GOAT heavy and then some in the latter stages.
How about player who only played in South American leagues or using those leagues as peak of players. This was what I thought the SA draft is anyway.
I'd ban the usual attacking GOATs, wingers (or "wingers") and midfielders - and the GOAT fullbacks plus the standout central defenders (who may not be GOATs in the strictest sense, but who do stand out - which makes them huge assets).
That list isn't horribly long, really - and doing so means you make sure that some fresh faces will feature more prominently. The idea of a S-American draft has always been to showcase the wealth of talent that is usually hidden in the shadow of the huge names - so blocking the usual GOATspects makes perfect sense if you ask me.
That list isn't horribly long, really - and doing so means you make sure that some fresh faces will feature more prominently. The idea of a S-American draft has always been to showcase the wealth of talent that is usually hidden in the shadow of the huge names - so blocking the usual GOATspects makes perfect sense if you ask me.
I'm easy either way. The other option could be to have more limited reinforcements (eg 1 instead of 2 after each round).
Wut?
Could do both - block a list of GOATs and whatnot AND go with S-American league peak as the standard.
The victims of that policy would be modern players who aren't GOATs or whatnot - but whose peaks clearly came while playing in Europe (and who may not have much of a career to speak of in any S-American league).