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Stars and Reserves Draft

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. All-time draft with Block list and restricted number of Star players(see below).
3. Initial drafting of 12 players. Extra 2 players per Reinforcement Round, 1 before the final, with the standard inverting the draft order method.
4. The maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 2.
5. No substitutions.
6. After the QF, the maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 3.

Young Player Rule:
Y1. You can gain the right of playing an additional star player in your starting 11 if you start an outfield player (read: keepers don't count!) born on or after 1st January 1995.
Y2. You can only gain the right once during a match, so playing 2 young players doesn't mean you get 2 extra star player spots.
Y3. Kylian Mbappe is excluded from this rule, meaning that playing him won't get you any additional spots.
Y4. All young players are judged based on the performance level they have shown so far, not based on their potential. This means a CF who has scored 10 goals in a season should be rated on the same level as a 28 years old striker who scores 10 goals in a season.

Seeler
Batistuta
Riva
Elkjaer
Tostao
Kempes
Nordahl
Spencer
Etoo
Shevshenko
Fontaine
Suarez
Careca
Netzer
Kopa
Socrates
Bergkamp
Totti
Schuster
Schiaffino
Cubillas
Rivera
Overath
Kaka
Stoichkov
Nedved
Boniek
Czibor
Blokhin
Rensenbrink
Gento
Rivelino
J.M. Moreno
Kubala
Jairzinho
Hamrin
Robben
Giggs
Beckham
Meazza
S. Mazzola
Lato
Conti
Finney
Johnstone
Del Piero
Modric
Tardelli
Boszik
Scholes
Pirlo
van Hanegem
Souness
Vieira
JL Andrade
Gerson
Ocwirk
Coluna
Pirri
V. Mazzola
Vidal
Stielike
Makelele
Monti
Zito
Tito Goncalvez
Cerezo
Busquets
Clodoaldo
Nasazzi
Santamaria
Shesternyov
Chumpitaz
Vierchowod
Godin
Blanc
Vidic
Ruggeri
Tresor
Koeman
Carvalho
Picchi
Ferrara
Hierro
Gentile
Campbell
Rosato
Gerets
Burgnich
McGrain
Amoros
Alves
VR Andrade
Kaltz
Bessonov
Leovegildo Junior
Camacho
Zebec
Lizarazu
Bossis
Marcelo
Cole
Schnellinger
Marzolini
Demyanenko

Ronaldo Luis Nazario
G. Müller
Eusebio
van Basten
Romario
Henry
Koscics
Law

Maradona
Platini
Zico
Zidane
Charlton
Iniesta
Laudrup

Cruyff
C. Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Dzajic
Messi
Garrincha
Best
Rummenigge
Pele
Di Stefano
Puskas
Gullit
Baggio
Rivaldo
Matthews
Figo

Matthäus
PR Falcao
Xavi
Redondo
Robson
Luisito
Keane
Neeskens
Breitner
Didi
Edwards
Masopust
Schweinsteiger

Rikjaard
Varela
Davids
Voronin
Tigana

Beckenbauer
Baresi
Figueroa
Scirea
Moore
Nesta
Passarella
Krol
Desailly
Kohler
Sammer
McGrath
Förster
Stam
Cannavaro
Ferdinand

Vogts
Thuram
Zanetti
Cafu
C. Alberto
Djalma
Bergomi
Lahm

Maldini
Facchetti
Brehme
Nilton
Cabrini
RCarlos

The aim when constructing the lists was to have the best players in their respective positions (in a broad sense) in the block list.

Star players should be players who are draft regulars / generally well received in the first round of All-Time Drafts and most of the time not seen as a weak point, but who don't get much love when it inevitably becomes a GOAT fest in the later rounds.

I hope the rules are easy to understand and I am open to discussions about some glaring omissions from me.

I can run the draft if there is interest, it should be very straightforward in how it plays out and gives the chance to showcase some players who are less frequently used, without scraping the bottom of the bottle in every position.
 
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@Don Alfredo

I have a new idea: an Auction Stars and Reserves Draft!!

The young player rule is interesting: maybe 1990 would be more attractive.
 
Don Alfredo said:
Stars and Reserves Draft

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. All-time draft with Block list and restricted number of Star players(see below).
3. Initial drafting of 12 players. Extra 2 players per Reinforcement Round, 1 before the final, with the standard inverting the draft order method.
4. The maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 2.
5. No substitutions.
6. After the QF, the maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 3.

Young Player Rule:
Y1. You can gain the right of playing an additional star player in your starting 11 if you start a player born on or after 1st January 1995.
Y2. You can only gain the right once during a match, so playing 2 young players doesn't mean you get 2 extra star player spots.
Y3. Kylian Mbappe is excluded from this rule, meaning that playing him won't get you any additional spots.
Y4. All young players are judged based on the performance level they have shown so far, not based on their potential. This means a CF who has scored 10 goals in a season should be rated on the same level as a 28 years old striker who scores 10 goals in a season.

Seeler
Batistuta
Riva
Elkjaer
Tostao
Kempes
Nordahl
Spencer
Etoo
Shevshenko
Fontaine
Suarez
Careca
Netzer
Kopa
Socrates
Bergkamp
Totti
Schuster
Schiaffino
Cubillas
Rivera
Overath
Kaka
Stoichkov
Nedved
Boniek
Czibor
Blokhin
Rensenbrink
Gento
Rivelino
J.M. Moreno
Kubala
Jairzinho
Hamrin
Robben
Giggs
Beckham
Meazza
S. Mazzola
Lato
Conti
Finney
Johnstone

Del Piero
Modric
Tardelli
Boszik
Scholes
Pirlo
van Hanegem
Souness
Vieira
JL Andrade
Gerson
Ocwirk
Coluna
Pirri
V. Mazzola
Vidal
Stielike
Makelele
Monti
Zito
Tito Goncalvez
Cerezo
Busquets
Clodoaldo
Nasazzi
Santamaria
Shesternyov
Chumpitaz
Vierchowod
Godin
Blanc
Vidic
Ruggeri
Tresor
Koeman
Carvalho
Picchi
Ferrara
Hierro
Gentile
Campbell
Rosato
Gerets
Burgnich
McGrain
Amoros
Alves
VR Andrade
Kaltz
Bessonov
Leovegildo Junior
Camacho
Zebec
Lizarazu
Bossis
Marcelo
Cole
Schnellinger
Marzolini
Demyanenko

Ronaldo Luis Nazario
G. Müller
Eusebio
van Basten
Romario
Henry
Koscics
Law

Maradona
Platini
Zico
Zidane
Charlton
Iniesta
Laudrup

Cruyff
C. Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Dzajic
Messi
Garrincha
Best
Rummenigge
Pele
Di Stefano
Puskas
Gullit
Baggio
Rivaldo
Matthews
Figo

Matthäus
PR Falcao
Xavi
Redondo
Robson
Luisito
Keane
Neeskens
Breitner
Didi
Edwards
Masopust
Schweinsteiger

Rikjaard
Varela
Davids
Voronin
Tigana

Beckenbauer
Baresi
Figueroa
Scirea
Moore
Nesta
Passarella
Krol
Desailly
Kohler
Sammer
McGrath
Förster
Stam
Cannavaro
Ferdinand

Vogts
Thuram
Zanetti
Cafu
C. Alberto
Djalma
Bergomi
Lahm

Maldini
Facchetti
Brehme
Nilton
Cabrini
RCarlos

The aim when constructing the lists was to have the best players in their respective positions (in a broad sense) in the block list.

Star players should be players who are draft regulars / generally well received in the first round of All-Time Drafts and most of the time not seen as a weak point, but who don't get much love when it inevitably becomes a GOAT fest in the later rounds.

I hope the rules are easy to understand and I am open to discussions about some glaring omissions from me.

I can run the draft if there is interest, it should be very straightforward in how it plays out and gives the chance to showcase some players who are less frequently used, without scraping the bottom of the bottle in every position.
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Ecstatic said:
@Don Alfredo

I have a new idea: an Auction Stars and Reserves Draft!!

The young player rule is interesting: maybe 1990 would be more attractive.
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The pool for young players needs to be very weak, it is meant as a punishment and otherwise it is too easy to get another star player.

Don't know if having an Auction draft is the best idea to do with reserve players, all managers need to have an idea about the "worth" of the players to act accordingly and that is difficult when you have many unknown players.
 
Don Alfredo said:
The pool for young players needs to be very weak, it is meant as a punishment and otherwise it is too easy to get another star player.

Don't know if having an Auction draft is the best idea to do with reserve players, all managers need to have an idea about the "worth" of the players to act accordingly and that is difficult when you have many unknown players.
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A fully deregulated draft makes possible to have Tostao for 5 millions and Nedved for 65 millions; which is the charm of an Auction Draft: some overpay, some focus on 2-3 big stars; some a balanced team and so on.
 
Ecstatic said:
A fully deregulated draft makes possible to have Tostao for 5 millions and Nedved for 65 millions; which is the charm of an Auction Draft: some overpay, some focus on 2-3 big stars; some a balanced team and so on.
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How about we keep the idea to do another Auction Draft after the next one?

I have yet to participate in an Auction Draft and running one needs some serious knowledge about the thinking process of the managers. I will gladly sign up when someone else wants to run one in the future.
 
Auction draft next would be nice. Been a while
 
Here is the 2018 Draft Leader board:

1 x Winner - 10 pts | 1 x Finalist - 8 pts | 2 x Semifinalists - 6 pts

Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Winner Tuppet 10
Winner Tuppet 10
Finalist Tuppet 8 -----------> 40
.
Finalist Enigma 8
Winner Enigma 10
Semifinalist Enigma 6
Finalist Enigma 8
Semifinalist Enigma 6 -----------> 38
.
Winner harms 10
Finalist harms 8
Winner harms 10
Semifinalist harms 6 -----------> 34
.
Finalist 2mufco 8
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6 -----------> 26
.
Finalist Gio 8
Semifinalist Gio 6
Finalist Gio 8 -----------> 22
.
Semifinalist MJJ 6
Winner MJJ 10
Semifinalist MJJ 6 -----------> 22
.
Winner Indnyc 10
Winner Indnyc 10 -----------> 20
.
Finalist Skizzo 8
Semifinalist Skizzo 6
Semifinalist Skizzo 6 -----------> 20
.
Finalist idmanager 8
Semifinalist idmanager 6 -----------> 14
.
Semifinalist Moby 6
Finalist Moby 8 -----------> 14

Others:

Winner Don Alfredo 10 -----------> 10
Winner Raees 10 -----------> 10
.
Semifinalist Charly 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Jim Beam 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Onenil 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Pat 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Sjor Bepo 6 -----------> 6
 
Tuppet obviously ruined a clear picture and no one know how much his manipulations impacted the games...but still based on what is, looks like Enigma takes the Gold, harms takes Silver and 2mufc0 takes the bronze.

Didn't realize 2mufc actually was this successful in drafts, tbh!

Perhaps this sheep draft will change the dynamics some...let's see.
 
Don Alfredo said:
Stars and Reserves Draft

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. All-time draft with Block list and restricted number of Star players(see below).
3. Initial drafting of 12 players. Extra 2 players per Reinforcement Round, 1 before the final, with the standard inverting the draft order method.
4. The maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 2.
5. No substitutions.
6. After the QF, the maximum number of Star players in the starting 11 is 3.

Young Player Rule:
Y1. You can gain the right of playing an additional star player in your starting 11 if you start an outfield player (read: keepers don't count!) born on or after 1st January 1995.
Y2. You can only gain the right once during a match, so playing 2 young players doesn't mean you get 2 extra star player spots.
Y3. Kylian Mbappe is excluded from this rule, meaning that playing him won't get you any additional spots.
Y4. All young players are judged based on the performance level they have shown so far, not based on their potential. This means a CF who has scored 10 goals in a season should be rated on the same level as a 28 years old striker who scores 10 goals in a season.

Seeler
Batistuta
Riva
Elkjaer
Tostao
Kempes
Nordahl
Spencer
Etoo
Shevshenko
Fontaine
Suarez
Careca
Netzer
Kopa
Socrates
Bergkamp
Totti
Schuster
Schiaffino
Cubillas
Rivera
Overath
Kaka
Stoichkov
Nedved
Boniek
Czibor
Blokhin
Rensenbrink
Gento
Rivelino
J.M. Moreno
Kubala
Jairzinho
Hamrin
Robben
Giggs
Beckham
Meazza
S. Mazzola
Lato
Conti
Finney
Johnstone
Del Piero
Modric
Tardelli
Boszik
Scholes
Pirlo
van Hanegem
Souness
Vieira
JL Andrade
Gerson
Ocwirk
Coluna
Pirri
V. Mazzola
Vidal
Stielike
Makelele
Monti
Zito
Tito Goncalvez
Cerezo
Busquets
Clodoaldo
Nasazzi
Santamaria
Shesternyov
Chumpitaz
Vierchowod
Godin
Blanc
Vidic
Ruggeri
Tresor
Koeman
Carvalho
Picchi
Ferrara
Hierro
Gentile
Campbell
Rosato
Gerets
Burgnich
McGrain
Amoros
Alves
VR Andrade
Kaltz
Bessonov
Leovegildo Junior
Camacho
Zebec
Lizarazu
Bossis
Marcelo
Cole
Schnellinger
Marzolini
Demyanenko

Ronaldo Luis Nazario
G. Müller
Eusebio
van Basten
Romario
Henry
Koscics
Law

Maradona
Platini
Zico
Zidane
Charlton
Iniesta
Laudrup

Cruyff
C. Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Dzajic
Messi
Garrincha
Best
Rummenigge
Pele
Di Stefano
Puskas
Gullit
Baggio
Rivaldo
Matthews
Figo

Matthäus
PR Falcao
Xavi
Redondo
Robson
Luisito
Keane
Neeskens
Breitner
Didi
Edwards
Masopust
Schweinsteiger

Rikjaard
Varela
Davids
Voronin
Tigana

Beckenbauer
Baresi
Figueroa
Scirea
Moore
Nesta
Passarella
Krol
Desailly
Kohler
Sammer
McGrath
Förster
Stam
Cannavaro
Ferdinand

Vogts
Thuram
Zanetti
Cafu
C. Alberto
Djalma
Bergomi
Lahm

Maldini
Facchetti
Brehme
Nilton
Cabrini
RCarlos

The aim when constructing the lists was to have the best players in their respective positions (in a broad sense) in the block list.

Star players should be players who are draft regulars / generally well received in the first round of All-Time Drafts and most of the time not seen as a weak point, but who don't get much love when it inevitably becomes a GOAT fest in the later rounds.

I hope the rules are easy to understand and I am open to discussions about some glaring omissions from me.

I can run the draft if there is interest, it should be very straightforward in how it plays out and gives the chance to showcase some players who are less frequently used, without scraping the bottom of the bottle in every position.
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That looks brilliant. There's so many great players that rarely get a decent airing given how GOAT-laden the typical draft is. Sign me up for this one for sure.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
who has the most first round exits?
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Here is the 2018 Draft Leader board:

1 x Winner - 10 pts | 1 x Finalist - 8 pts | 2 x Semifinalists - 6 pts

Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Winner Tuppet 10
Winner Tuppet 10
Finalist Tuppet 8 -----------> 40
.
Finalist Enigma 8
Winner Enigma 10
Semifinalist Enigma 6
Finalist Enigma 8
Semifinalist Enigma 6 -----------> 38
.
Winner harms 10
Finalist harms 8
Winner harms 10
Semifinalist harms 6 -----------> 34
.
Finalist 2mufco 8
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6 -----------> 26
.
Finalist Gio 8
Semifinalist Gio 6
Finalist Gio 8 -----------> 22
.
Semifinalist MJJ 6
Winner MJJ 10
Semifinalist MJJ 6 -----------> 22
.
Winner Indnyc 10
Winner Indnyc 10 -----------> 20
.
Finalist Skizzo 8
Semifinalist Skizzo 6
Semifinalist Skizzo 6 -----------> 20
.
Finalist idmanager 8
Semifinalist idmanager 6 -----------> 14
.
Semifinalist Moby 6
Finalist Moby 8 -----------> 14

Others:

Winner Don Alfredo 10 -----------> 10
Winner Raees 10 -----------> 10
.
Semifinalist Charly 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Jim Beam 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Onenil 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Pat 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Sjor Bepo 6 -----------> 6
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Typical of you to rob me of any credit for getting to the final of the last draft :( ;)
 
Just seen this whilst browsing around, sound like a good mix of sheep and auction to be under consideration in the future...

You will be given a transfer budget of £150m.

I will post a category, then you will PM me with a bid for a player, that fits the category. Bid in multiples of millions or half millions e.g. You can bid £1m or £1.5m, but not £1.3m or £1.68m.

If two people bid on the same player, the highest bid wins. If you don’t get a player via a bid, you have to bid again on the same category, losing the amount from your original bid plus the amount from your next bid.

If two people bid the same amount on a player, I will PM them both to increase their bid, until one of the two has a higher bid.

If you fail to get a player on your third attempt, you will be assigned a player by the person who got the original player you bidded for.

When all bids are in, I will reveal who has made a successful bid and who needs to bid again. Once everyone has a player, I will reveal the players chosen.

Then we’ll move on to the next category.

Categories, in order, are as follows:

Round 1: Pick a player who has scored over 100 career goals (competitive games only, club & international goals included)

Rnd 2: Pick a player who has never won a league title (lower division titles are still league titles, as are Brazilian state leagues)

3: Pick a Ballon d’or winner

4: Pick a goalkeeper.

5: Pick a player who has scored in a domestic cup final.

6: Pick a player with more than 50 caps, but less than 80.

7: Pick a player who has been a teammate of your previous pick.

8: Pick a World Cup winner.

9: Pick a player who has won a league outside of the top leagues in England, Spain, Italy and Germany. To be clear, if a player had won the top league in those four countries, they’re ineligible.

10. Pick a one club player. The likes of Xavi and Gerrard are not one club men, but if a player was loaned to another club, they can still be considered a one club man.

11. Pick any player you want.

——


Please don’t give hints as to who you’re bidding for in the thread.
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Obviously we'd likely play without knowing categories up front, if we decided to run with it at some point.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Here is the 2018 Draft Leader board:

1 x Winner - 10 pts | 1 x Finalist - 8 pts | 2 x Semifinalists - 6 pts

Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Semifinalist Tuppet 6
Winner Tuppet 10
Winner Tuppet 10
Finalist Tuppet 8 -----------> 40
.
Finalist Enigma 8
Winner Enigma 10
Semifinalist Enigma 6
Finalist Enigma 8
Semifinalist Enigma 6 -----------> 38
.
Winner harms 10
Finalist harms 8
Winner harms 10
Semifinalist harms 6 -----------> 34
.
Finalist 2mufco 8
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6
Semifinalist 2mufco 6 -----------> 26
.
Finalist Gio 8
Semifinalist Gio 6
Finalist Gio 8 -----------> 22
.
Semifinalist MJJ 6
Winner MJJ 10
Semifinalist MJJ 6 -----------> 22
.
Winner Indnyc 10
Winner Indnyc 10 -----------> 20
.
Finalist Skizzo 8
Semifinalist Skizzo 6
Semifinalist Skizzo 6 -----------> 20
.
Finalist idmanager 8
Semifinalist idmanager 6 -----------> 14
.
Semifinalist Moby 6
Finalist Moby 8 -----------> 14

Others:

Winner Don Alfredo 10 -----------> 10
Winner Raees 10 -----------> 10
.
Semifinalist Charly 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Jim Beam 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Onenil 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Pat 6 -----------> 6
Semifinalist Sjor Bepo 6 -----------> 6
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Crazy thing is Charly is another Tuppet incarnation. Means he had a great draft year. Hard to beat that really. :lol:
 
Floating another idea just for the sake of it.

All players would be divided into 10 sets. Set 1 players will have 1 point, set 2 players will have 2 points, set 3 players will have 3 etc

It will be a snake style draft and you can pick any player you want without any restrictions w.r.t sets.

After your lineup is built, the total of the all points of each player in your team is added up.

For example:

Team 1

1. Cruyff (10)
2. Gullit (9)
3. Stoichkov (8)
4. Neeskens (8)
5. Van Hanegem (6)
6. Haan (2)
7. Krol (9)
8. Hulshoff (1)
9. Koeman (5)
10. Cafu (9)
11. Van der sar (6)

Total = 73

Team 2

1. Rvn (6)
2. Beckham (6)
3. Giggs (5)
4. Charlton (9)
5. Keane (8)
6. Scholes (6)
7. Evra (3)
8. Vidic (5)
9. Rio (7)
10. Neville (2)
11. De Gea (6)

Total = 63

Ratio of team 1: team 2 = 73:63 = 1.1587:1

Team 1 needs to beat the ratio of votes to win the game

Ratio of votes in game of team 1: team 2 = 15:13 = 1.1538:1

Team 2 wins since it has the better ratio of votes

Basic idea being you don't need to build a GOAT heavy team to win the draft and can highlight your lesser known players with an incentive to need lesser votes than your opponent to win the game as long as you have the better ratio.
 
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Himannv said:
In for all the above mentioned drafts. Just start one already!
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We need to wait before QF and SF rounds are over before we can start the next one:)

Stars and Reserves Draft Sign-up

1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
 
I couldn't make my last draft with John Mcgrath: I deserve a better end really


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1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
9. Skizzo
10. Bepo
11. Ecstatic
 
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1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
9. Skizzo
10. Bepo
11. Ecstatic
12. Pat Mustard
13. P-Nut
 
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1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
9. Skizzo
10. Bepo
11. Ecstatic
12. Pat Mustard
13. P-Nut
14. GodShaveTheQueen
15. Jim Beam
 
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1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
9. Skizzo
10. Bepo
11. Ecstatic
12. Pat Mustard
13. P-Nut
14. GodShaveTheQueen
15. Jim Beam
16. Gio
 
Indnyc said:
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1. Moby
2. Indnyc
3. Edgar
4. Michaelf7777777
5. Physiocrat
6. Himannv
7. green_smiley
8. Don Alfredo
9. Skizzo
10. Bepo
11. Ecstatic
12. Pat Mustard
13. P-Nut
14. GodShaveTheQueen
15. Jim Beam
16. Gio
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That filled up quick :lol:
 
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