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New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
You want a cathedral with 3 spires? Feck off to Lichfield.
This is the new theatre of dreams, a modern stadium fit for the greatest football club on earth.
Sounds like he'll be looking after season ticket holders. Everyone else, perhaps less so.
In general. It's been said for years and years.. not just on this thread!
Why should I be supportive until I know all the facts?
The club treats fans like shite and this development will give them an excuse for a further social cleanse of our support. Until they prove me otherwise, I'm believing the worst.
Ye I’m just joking
I don't like any of theseIt's true but I think a lot of it is cost based. These generic bowls are probably much quicker/cheaper to build. There's an element of not being able to please everyone but I do think it's sad there seems to be a clear lack of interest in preserving OT or elements from OT. It very much has the look of 'let's build the biggest stadium we without much interest in it's aesthetic and then drape a net over it + whack some towers on to change its outline.'
These were Ai generated when the stadium was mooted and all of them gave a nod to the cantilever roof to some degree. Surely there was a way to get a bit more of OT into the new stadium.
There’s only so many base designs for a large stadium, and they’ve all been done by now surely.
1958 are clueless to be honestYou want a cathedral with 3 spires? Feck off to Lichfield.
This is the new theatre of dreams, a modern stadium fit for the greatest football club on earth.
How can people not get excited for this! It looks amazing and unique. 100k capacity. Beautiful and covered open concourses all around the stadium. Bars, restaurants, events. The place will be amazing on a match day. I have been to OT and various other stadiums around the world. OT has its charm, no doubt about it, but it's old and unbefitting of the so called "biggest club in the world", tag we so often hear. We need a bigger and better stadium, it's really something the club needs badly. Think it will rejuvenate us. Everything I saw in the video I like.
Not a fan of this new stadium. Old Trafford is a special place. Must be a way to revamp it. Fix all the problems like with the roof and put in a better scoreboard etc. This Ratcliffe guy just comes across like a bit of a clown . Rather we fix the problems on the pitch first. We still have the biggest capacity. Whats this rush to build a new stadium. Training ground would be more important
Not at all. I really doubt any high level players in the region who might be interested will be put off by some symbolism if they think it's a good deal.
Won't somebody think of the rats?
After some thought, I think that it looks like a big circus tent is a good thing.
I'd rather it be a fun, carnival like atmosphere and feeling open and fun than the machine-like dystopia of the cheats across town.
I can see where they're coming from and if they can deliver an exciting experience both inside and out then it's all good.
I'd rather it be a fun, carnival like atmosphere and feeling open and fun than the machine-like dystopia of the cheats across town.
I can see where they're coming from and if they can deliver an exciting experience both inside and out then it's all good.
I appreciate your efforts.
We need all we can get for a cheer right now.
"There's a risk the new stadium makes us less competitive"
Then we are now?
Gulp.
Then we are now?
Gulp.
They’re quite content over in Tampa. Bastards.
There is already a pretty decent footfall in that area without this development. You have the imperial war museum, the lowry theatre, BBC & ITV studios, Salford Quays, Salford Uni, Trafford Park, Trafford College and Old Trafford. Add to this 4000 news homes, a night-time economy, and an influx of 3 million visitors every season. The aim is to keep these 3 million visitors around the stadium for as long as possible, so it probably would take business away from other areas.
If you want to see a ghost town, visit the Etihad on a non match day. Where it is located is no where near anything of interest, other than an asda and a velodrome. The co-op arena is occupied at night, but people don't hang around there all day, they are in and out as soon as the gig is over. It is located in a rather deprived area. Large council estates surround the entire site (Bradford, Clayton and Miles Platting). This isn't the sort of clientele who spend money or have a disposable income. So it ends up being a crime hotspot, and a rather undesirable place to visit. Especially if you don't know the area or have your wits about you.
Theres only so many ways you can design a football stadium. I get why some people don't like it, many don't like or are afraid of change but i think its time when we have to keep up with others, we're no longer top dogs.
Yes they may all look souless but its up to the team to make it a success and become part of history just like the past teams did with Old Trafford. Its also up to the fans to create an atmosphere that becomes memorable. Old Trafford is hardly top when it comes to atmosphere every game, but when the atmosphere is good the old place is rocking.
Yes they may all look souless but its up to the team to make it a success and become part of history just like the past teams did with Old Trafford. Its also up to the fans to create an atmosphere that becomes memorable. Old Trafford is hardly top when it comes to atmosphere every game, but when the atmosphere is good the old place is rocking.
Love the Jetsons
Looks like the Jetsons
One of Bebe's crosses should be returning from orbit in time for completion.
One thing that has come to mind is that even though we are in a dire financial situation, can United realistically miss out on doing this now, alongside the regeneration of the area. If we didn't go ahead with it, the likelihood of the regeneration decreases and then next parliament its gone.
Even though we can't afford it, maybe we can't afford to miss this opportunity.
Even though we can't afford it, maybe we can't afford to miss this opportunity.
That statement from 1958 is something else.
The design and all it incorporates, looks absolutely incredible. It’ll be the best stadium in Europe, if not the world.
The design and all it incorporates, looks absolutely incredible. It’ll be the best stadium in Europe, if not the world.
1958 are just a bunch of attention seekers who will argue against anything to keep themselves relevant
Watching tonight's game it looks like most have gone to Anfield
I don’t mind it, I can see why some don’t but feck me it stands out.
My mate who’s a Liverpool fan said it looks like a mosque or a circus tent which is appropriate considering the way the team are playing, yada, yada, yada but if that gets built then look across to the Etihad or Anfield or even Tottenham, a stadium that was hailed as looking like a toilet or a bed pan but is now hailed as one of the best stadiums around, and tell me that they won’t pale into comparison.
I was at Old Trafford for the game against Arsenal on Sunday, I love it, the history, the statues, the clock but they will be preserved and present at the new stadium and when you go for a beer at halftime, yeah there’s something very English, traditional, old school about going into the guts of a ground and getting a shit pie and drink but football stadiums can’t operate like that anymore, you can’t just make money from the stadium every other week these days, when players are costing 50-60-70-million on average, not to mention what they want per week you need different revenue streams from the stadium.
I love our history, the glory and tragedy that has encapsulated our club will never be forgotten but we need the biggest and best facilities to create a new history and the past will never be forgotten, we won’t allow that as fans, whatever the stadium looks like.
My mate who’s a Liverpool fan said it looks like a mosque or a circus tent which is appropriate considering the way the team are playing, yada, yada, yada but if that gets built then look across to the Etihad or Anfield or even Tottenham, a stadium that was hailed as looking like a toilet or a bed pan but is now hailed as one of the best stadiums around, and tell me that they won’t pale into comparison.
I was at Old Trafford for the game against Arsenal on Sunday, I love it, the history, the statues, the clock but they will be preserved and present at the new stadium and when you go for a beer at halftime, yeah there’s something very English, traditional, old school about going into the guts of a ground and getting a shit pie and drink but football stadiums can’t operate like that anymore, you can’t just make money from the stadium every other week these days, when players are costing 50-60-70-million on average, not to mention what they want per week you need different revenue streams from the stadium.
I love our history, the glory and tragedy that has encapsulated our club will never be forgotten but we need the biggest and best facilities to create a new history and the past will never be forgotten, we won’t allow that as fans, whatever the stadium looks like.
I might have missed this but umm did we get a conclusion on how this new stadium will be funded?
It looks quite cool, certainly see inspiration from the SoFi stadium in its design but if they can create the fan experience zones like in the images it will be pretty cool. Can’t see it only taking 5 years and 2 bil to build, surely going to cost more.
It looks quite cool, certainly see inspiration from the SoFi stadium in its design but if they can create the fan experience zones like in the images it will be pretty cool. Can’t see it only taking 5 years and 2 bil to build, surely going to cost more.
I think it looks fantastic, I still love OT I took my daughter on the tour 3 weeks ago(a week after her 1st game),I was talking to the tour guides and we all agreed it's still a great place to watch football, but if they build this, it's next level.
I think I like it and then I don’t. I get the idea, making it a day out, have designer shops and food places, bring money in etc. but none of that interests me. I don’t care about shiney shops and bright lights while I’m going to the match. I was happy with the days of a few pints in Sam platts then a walk over and watch the game. Some greasey burger on the way in. But that’s football to me and my nostalgic memories, same watching my locsl non league team, cheap burger or chips and stand in the cold and I’m happy. That’s football to me.
Madrid managed to retrofit their version into the existing stadium footprint by using a completely different design to the one at Spurs. At the Bernabeu I think the pitch is segmented and then stacked below ground level whereas at Tottenham it rolls in and out in three long sections.
Berrada said they were weighing up wether the costs associated with a retractable pitch are worth it or not, so I guess we will see. I imagine it will be a multi-event space anyway to bring in extra revenue, we have to fund the damn thing somehow.
Knowing our luck I fully expect some unexpected hurdles when we start breaking ground. Take your pick from the following: 1) unexploded WW2 ordnance 2) the Celtic/Viking/Manc equivalent of King Tut's grave 3) MH 370 4) Jimmy Hoffa
The stadium looks amazing. Can't believe the 1958 put out that statement. The design surpassed anything I could have possibly imagined. Just making themselves look like clowns. The trident is a very nice symbolic design too. There are plenty of things to criticise INEOS and Ratcliffe over, but this certainly isn't one of them. The costs for tickets were going up with or without a new stadium I'm afraid. In the long-term, the club will benefit significantly from the increased income of not just more tickets, but also the extra spend in the area. There'll be an increase in tourism and an increase in local jobs to help construct the stadium and its surroundings, and afterwards to service the new shops, restaurants, etc. People who complain about not having best-in-class can't then go on and complain about the new stadium with a straight face. That's as best-in-class as you can get.
Jim has said in the interview that the training ground is already in the works.
Hated the three trident towers at first but they've grown on me and now look at it and think that's gonna be iconic once built.
I don't see how anyone with a straight face can say the stadium looks generic.
Can't wait for the new stadium, OT is tired and going to other stadiums really shows how grotty and rundown it has become.
100k plus stadium? Count me in.
My first reaction was it looks like a futuristic Giant Mosque
We will see in the future how it turns out, but the fact that the seating layout is similar to Old Trafford is a huge plus for me. Even the dug out looks the same.
3-0 is just too ambitious never mind the stadium plan.
It's very quiet around Old Trafford I'm there most days, it can barely support a wetherspoons and a few manky takeaways I also find the Quays to be a bit barren and empty, it's cold dark and a bit bleak, sounds better on paper than it is. They have to get this right and bring people in with decent football, and lots of concerts in summer. I honestly don't see much happening the rest of the time, the housing is likely to be mostly apartments, there's already a backlash in the nearby areas with too many apartment residents that live a self contained lifestyle and don't bring much to the community. People in general have less to spend in disposable income, United fans don't like spending at the stadium as it benifits the glazers. Corporate hospitality (my industry) on non match days is in decline as companies can't afford to use these facilities or can use technology instead. The spend per head on tourists can only be so much, many of them are rushed through on coaches. It's east to visualise everyone enjoying a beer and a burger outside on a summer day after a nice stroll around the Quays but to get decent revenue you need big numbers all year. The current stadium has one small restaurant that closes at 4pm, theoretically they could have dozens of restaurants if they chose to use the matchday suites but the current demand isn't there.