Now that's a belter of a post. Pity it's absolute garbage.
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Very different player to Pogba though. Actually a bit better than Pog at running with the ball through the middle but his long range vision and passing ability are nowhere near the same. Pogba pings 60 yarders with both feet and great accuracy. That's never been part of Bakayoko's game. Shooting's another one.
You're optimistic.
Great post.
Whereas you are clearly in the other camp, so far deep in the other camp you can't even see daylight
Nope, I'm just in the Man United camp, I just say what I think about a player as it comes, I was complimentary about Lindelof and Morata when we were on the verge of signing them, I just don't go suckling along with everything shoveled forward.
Ah the trolls boys roll out as usual for anyone not towing the sheep line.
Sorry but I'm not having that Bakayoko is better than Pogba at anything, apart from maybe dodgy hair
Well hopefully, but I don't see him spending £50 million for someone to rotate with Pereira - if we sign Matic I expect us to field him game in and out - give or take - unless injury/exhaustion intervenes. Tangentially, I'm yet to see any evidence that Fosu Mensah is being included on anything other than a tokenistic basis - last season we seemed to prefer to shoehorn in any available senior player ahead of him.
It's funny. There are plenty of moderate posts that spell out benefits and possible negatives of this transfer articulately and with good reasoning. Most of them get ignored as the extreme opinions joust nonsensically.
It's amazing the analogies people are coming out with just because fans are backing the manager. Also pretty funny, this thread is amusing. 
Only time will tell mate on this one, both of us are just guessing. I'd like to think Jose has an eye on the future though.
Your post wasn't about the player though was it, it was about the manager his motives (cowedly signing I think the term you used was)
He's not been himself since we were linked with him a year ago....
Go figure.
This sort of chat is absolute internet AIDS.
Troll? Towing the sheep line? You need to calm down and logout by the looks of it. Nothing but speculation around, Matic, yet you're having a conniption behind your laptop. None of your points in your post made any sense at all, that's why it's garbage. Can totally see the sense behind buying, Matic. Yet you're totally blinkered and on a rant. I'd rather we signed someone like, Dier, but that looks dead in the water to me.
That's kind of the point isn't it? We should have options, so that we aren't desperate for one particular player. So desperate that we end up paying 50m for a 29 year old defensive midfielder, who may well have peaked 3 seasons ago and isn't wanted by his current manager.
I'd go along with that to be honest.
Wish Matic is Croatian so Ban could have double trouble 
It is excatly that, buying an old, declining player based purely on already knowing him, and for a fortune to boot, that is why top clubs use DOF's, to stop managers making these kind of lazy buys that have no upside for the club.
Yes troll sheep, the usual ones that crawl out the woodwork to spout the lines about going along with whatever the manager is doing and attacking other posters, my points were all accurate, Matic is a cab horse on the decline that is only being targeted because he's a safe bet for Mourinho, and when it goes to shit the club will be the one left with a has-been CM with no resale value. Also I am perfectly calm, I really don't know what some of you guys do when you post but I drink a cup of tea, play some music and just say what I think, if it does more for you than that, then fair enough.
Well, you're welcome to take your own view on the guy, obviously, but from where I'm standing he's a big guy who puts himself about, and has been struggling for a while to do so at previous levels, so it's hard to see him as a top level player now. Beyond those two years, when he's a big 32 year old trying to put himself about, it's even harder to imagine him as a top midfielder. Doesn't seem that controversial, but each to their own.
For that money I rather we prioritize Perisic, at least he would give us attacking options. Woodward is out of his mind if he sanctions this Jose's wish.
And still you're not doing anything to help your cause
I get the feeling that people are under the impression that Chelsea are happy to sell us Matic because they have a replacement in Bakayoko.
Lets be clear here, if Matic signed a new contract they absoltely would not be going for Bakayoko because they will know that Matic is better. They refused to sell him to us last summer but know they had no choice this time.
Lets be clear here, if Matic signed a new contract they absoltely would not be going for Bakayoko because they will know that Matic is better. They refused to sell him to us last summer but know they had no choice this time.
I don't have a cause, I stand by what I said, I think Mourinho will struggle this season with the approach he's taken this summer, and I think many here will be changing their tune by Christmas.
My point is whoever the scouts suggest will be a raw player for development. Obviously Mourinho wants some experience in his midfield, not some 20yo that had a good season in Belgium or something, who might need 3 years to start peaking.
50 mil for Matic.
No wonder Woodward and Jose have had some disagreements in all likelihood then.
Madness.
Jose better deliver this season.
No wonder Woodward and Jose have had some disagreements in all likelihood then.
Madness.
Jose better deliver this season.
Spot on. Lets see how many more mistakes club prepared to make before it comes to that conclusion.
You hope he struggles you mean
Why do some of you care what they spend on players anyway?
Doubt he/she has watched him at all.
Is this on top of the 50m that posters shit on Jose for spending on Dier?
Or do we just like shitting on Jose and use every little article as confirmation bias to do so?
Or do we just like shitting on Jose and use every little article as confirmation bias to do so?
No, go back and look when we signed him as manager, I was in full support, but that doesn't mean I ignore what I feel are problems, if Jose does something I think is good I praise it, if he does things that remind me of the stuff I disliked about him at Inter and Chelsea, I'll say it.
Because we do not have unlimited funds and it increases likelihood of another overhaul next time around? Not exactly rocket science.
Although I'm not against the signing at a reasonable price, I think these are fair points.
Caf is a really strange place, everyone cares about money numbers like it is going out of their pocket, every player after 28 is ancient and suddenly can't play football anymore etc...
Most good players are being shopped for at least 50% more than what they may have been worth as recently as a year ago. We don't have any option other than to pay up. Not Jose or Woody's fault.
Well if this goes ahead at the quoted price Mourinho will have spent nearly £300 million in transfer fees alone in just over a year so, yeah, there will be no excuses.
Well, we could look at other players. Matic and Perisic aren't that unique.
Good left wingers are pretty hard to come by. But I agree, there's plenty of DMs out there.
We're not going to look at players that don't fit into Mourinho's preferred player profiles for what he wants in his squad strategy.
$50 mil is a drop in the ocean compared to what the club earns. Well within our means. By signing lads in their late 20's you're still leaving the path open for a youth player that you feel has what it takes given some time to develop.
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