Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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I present to you, our CDM for 2017/2018......Ander Herrera!!!

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I actually heard we can get him on a free compared to 40m for matic ;):D
 
This quite clearly is happening.

Not exactly thrilled to bits by it, I think there are better players out there, and we're paying way, way too much for him... but lets see what happens.
 
Hope for his sake he hits the ground running, people so opposed to this that he's major danger of being the default scapegoat/spacegoat for being Jose's man a la Fellaini with Moyes.
 
I agree that he has not been that amazing for Chelsea last season but still he had a lot of playing time which shows that he was important for the balance.
I am wondering that Chelsea are looking to get Bakayoko who to me looks like a very similar player to Kante.
For us I think Matic could be the missing link for our midfield. Herrera is our Kante running up and down the pitch.
And everybody claims Pogba does need 2 midfielders to play behind him so a 4-3-3 seems to be a must.
 
Hope for his sake he hits the ground running, people so opposed to this that he's major danger of being the default scapegoat/spacegoat for being Jose's man a la Fellaini with Moyes.

Yep...it's what I said. If he is signed....I'll feel sorry for him and if I was him reading the Caf, I'd turn down the move. Life is too short for that shite.
 
Yep...it's what I said. If he is signed....I'll feel sorry for him and if I was him reading the Caf, I'd turn down the move. Life is too short for that shite.

well let's all pray he is reading the Caf and this message. Don't sign for United. Thanks
 
If Mourinho signs him it'll be because he's confident his performances have dropped for tactical reasons, rather than because of his ability or age. For example he may feel that Conte has restricted him in favour of Kante, which I'd agree with. Watching Matic last season I saw someone who was seemingly devoid of any direction in the midfield. It isn't a coincidence in my view that Kante's defensive stats this season (tackling for example) are similar to Matic's 15/16, whilst the latters have nosedived.

I personally thought given the situation he played well 15/16 and obviously he was fantastic 14/15. This season he's been asked to play a different game in my view and he's been ok but not great.

Mourinho will give him exactly the same role as he had 14/15 - he'll be in a midfield two with Pogba in the easier games (possibly Herrera-Pogba at home) and a midfield three with Herrera and Pogba in the harder games.

In terms of signings you could bring in and have absolute confidence that from day one he'd provide a solid base for our attackers to work from you aren't going to get much better.

I also.doubt it'll be £40m, I'd bet it'll be around £32m plus a few extra £m if we win the league. A much better price than the £40-45m for Dier that's for sure, a player you can guarantee will.never reach the heights of 14/15 Matic simply because he doesn't have the talent.

Agree with this.

The entire Chelsea squad (bar Willian) were atrocious in Jose's last season so Matic can get a pass for that. Last season, Conte played a different system that didn't play to Matic's strengths.

If Matic gets close to his 14/15 level of performance this transfer will be hailed as a masterstroke.
 
Excellent signing. He has the exact mentality united needs to be champions. Players that do not crumble under pression and are not afraid to give all.
It's like the 2015-16 season never happened! Some of you lot are so keen to get excited that you will throw any and every positive adjective for any player we are linked with.
 
just reread the jackson article. Matic "signing" might be slowed down because Jose's dad passed away? :wenger:

Since when does woodward need Jose to finalise a contract? We annnounced lindelof with about 3-4 things still to work out :lol:
 
just reread the jackson article. Matic "signing" might be slowed down because Jose's dad passed away? :wenger:

Since when does woodward need Jose to finalise a contract? We annnounced lindelof with about 3-4 things still to work out :lol:

Perhaps Woodward and other United officials have gone to support Jose, not completely out the question that the football side of things would wait for a day or 2.

Matic is hardly sought after.
 
Perhaps Woodward and other United officials have gone to support Jose, not completely out the question that the football side of things would wait for a day or 2.

Matic is hardly sought after.

i understand the support angle, but we announced lindelof with numerous details still outstanding. If it's 100% done as jackson is claiming, where is the BBC confirmation? Where is the "we are signing matic subject to XYZ"?

personal terms agreed and clubs agreed? So what are we waiting for? I feel like jackson wants to give himself a nice escape window.
 
I honestly can't understand how anyone can seriously believe Matic will be a poor signing. An experienced EPL player, who just contributed to an unlikely league win, in a position we badly need a proven item in, to play for a manager who knows how to get the best out him.
Because people would rather have Fabinho, ignoring the fact that Monaco are the epitome of a team that can't defend to save their lives.
 
Because people would rather have Fabinho, ignoring the fact that Monaco are the epitome of a team that can't defend to save their lives.

yet fabinho is the better tackler, passer, clearer of the ball and intercepts at roughly the same level as matic.
 
i understand the support angle, but we announced lindelof with numerous details still outstanding. If it's 100% done as jackson is claiming, where is the BBC confirmation? Where is the "we are signing matic subject to XYZ"?

personal terms agreed and clubs agreed? So what are we waiting for? I feel like jackson wants to give himself a nice escape window.

I'm just guessing from what's been said, but until Bakayoko is a Chelsea player then nothing will be announced. If we said we are signing Matic subject to XYZ and then Bakayoko pulls out of a deal for whatever reason, then we will look very foolish.
 
I am still against this signing but I guess a case can be made for it. We have a relatively young backline with Valencia being the most senior in terms of age but he is a converted winger so in defensive experience he is not the most experienced. Matic brings that experience and organisation in the defensive phase and we do have two of the best CMs in Europe who should be able to cover whatever shortcoming he might have as a result of decline. His age allows us to blood in kids like TFM or Axel because he has around three years at the top.
 
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HERRERA CRUSHES ALL!!! HERRERA CDM 2017/2018!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

The main problem with that comparison is that the three teams have completely different organizations, none of these players play the same role.
 
This is a valid point.

I'm no Matic fan, but you could probably compare the stats of strikers from the Scottish / Dutch leagues with players from the Prem and they will probably stack up.

Stats mean shite.
Comparing Ligue 1 to the Scottish league. Brilliant. :lol:
 
Mourinho has worked with him and seen him close up in training, so he will be the best judge of him as a player and how he will fit into our side.
 
That is such a lame argument to make. Are you one who will choose Vardy over Mbappe?
Mbappe is a striker who is clearly showing bags of talent, being a CDM against teams which are not very good is completely different.
 
Because people would rather have Fabinho, ignoring the fact that Monaco are the epitome of a team that can't defend to save their lives.
Do you pull these things out of your arse? Why don't you see their matches or the GA column to realize if they can or cannot defend.
 
Mbappe is a striker who is clearly showing bags of talent, being a CDM against teams which are not very good is completely different.
Yeah because the English Premier League had attackers of the talent of Messi and Ronaldo tearing up defenses, isn't it?
 
Do you pull these things out of your arse? Why don't you see their matches or the GA column to realize if they can or cannot defend.
Yeah they were brilliant defensively in the Champions league conceding 20 goals total Amirite?

Maybe you should watch them before running your mouth acting like your opinion is gospel.
 
Yeah because the English Premier League had attackers of the talent of Messi and Ronaldo tearing up defenses, isn't it?
Oh please are you really saying the premier league isn't a much harder league?
 
Oh please are you really saying the premier league isn't a much harder league?
Yeah it is harder because the level is equally poor, as evidenced by their performance in the CL. Monaco lost in the semis which is further than any English team has reached in the last 4 years. Some tough league that is!
 
i understand the support angle, but we announced lindelof with numerous details still outstanding. If it's 100% done as jackson is claiming, where is the BBC confirmation? Where is the "we are signing matic subject to XYZ"?

personal terms agreed and clubs agreed? So what are we waiting for? I feel like jackson wants to give himself a nice escape window.

Just waiting on Bakayoko to sign for Chelsea apparently before they will ratify the deal.
 
Yeah it is harder because the level is equally poor, as evidenced by their performance in the CL. Monaco lost in the semis which is further than any English team has reached in the last 4 years. Some tough league that is!
They got as far as they did because their attack was excellent which made up for them being poor defensively.
 
Yeah they were brilliant defensively in the Champions league conceding 20 goals total.

Maybe you should watch them before running your mouth acting like your opinion is gospel.
Juve got hammered for 4 goals against Madrid. Guess they must be shite too. Barca got hammered by Juve and PSG, guess they must be shite as well. This nonsense that because a team had a few high scoring matches and thus must be shite defensively is as moronic as I have seen. We have been taken to the cleaners ourselves.

As for comparing the CL stats, Matic didn't even play in it and when he did his team couldn't stop a 10 man PSG from scoring. Must have been Fabinho's fault that one too. Why don't you compare the league stats? Oh yes, because PL is harder than Ligue 1, right! :rolleyes:
 
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