Would be very disappointed with this signing on a lot of levels.
Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed
- Thread starter Paxi
- Start date
- Status
blueberry pancakes are awful with tomato sauce, but you can't have pepperoni pizza without the gravy
hello hello OK OK yeah
hello hello OK OK yeah
Can't blame people for feeling this way. Matic is a very unsexy player who sticks to the basics.
A solid and main stay of two title winning side here, though, so I'm not sure why United fans don't want him.
Not exotic enough. He was praised here not so long ago but today he's not good enough and he's boring and whatnot.
Not sure you'll put him up for sale even if you sign Bakayoko, Bakayoko is supposed to be more a b2b and not a dedicated DM like Matic.
Hope there is nothing to it since imo we can do better for the price you'd demand from a PL rival. Nearly £40m on a 29 year old Matic isn't tempting.
Divided opinion.
You just can't take a different view. And for the record both the players you listed are shit and thankfully we are not linked to those level of players. So pick another argument.
As for Matic the only thing I'm against the signing is his age. 29 next August and would cost a lot. I would rather have Fabinho. But he's a good player. Won the league twice in the last 3 years playing regularly at the heart of Chelsea's midfield. Hardly Borini/Rodwell level or squad level like O'Shea was for us.
Must people moan about literally every player that we are linked with? You would think we have a squad packed with worldclass talent at every position
Boring as it might be he's just the sort player we need right now.
More of an issue though will surely be dealing with Chelsea, even if they do want to sell I doubt they'll want to sell to us.
More of an issue though will surely be dealing with Chelsea, even if they do want to sell I doubt they'll want to sell to us.
Matic wasn't really a DM for us this last season either. Both he and Kante were essentially box to box mids. Matic got forward quite a bit and racked up a nice assist total.
Really hope we either keep him for depth in what will be a grueling season or sell him abroad. Could really bite us in the ass if we sell him to United.
Why is age also considered a factor with cdms, the best cdms in the world has gone on to play on high levels till 35- 36 years of age.
The answer is there in your post. Will be 29 in August. That and there's a few new shiny toys out there at the minute like Bakayoko and Fabinho.
Personally I don't think Chelsea will get rid of him anytime soon unless they get ridiculous amount of money for him. Back in the CL you guys need plenty of bodies to last the season. Kante, Matic, Bakayoko, Fab.. Who else you guys have that can play in midfield?
Be buzzing if we get Matic he's a powerhouse and would fit in perfectly
I'd be quite happy with him. Fabinho is definitely more sexy of a signing, but Matić would be great for us
Don't think Chelsea will sell him. They'll probably sign Bakayoko to improve their squad depth due to their CL participation next season, not as a replacement for Matic.
If they sell Matic and sign Bakayoko, they'd still need another midfielder and that's highly unlikely given their search for a Costa replacement, a new centre-back and another wing-back.
If they sell Matic and sign Bakayoko, they'd still need another midfielder and that's highly unlikely given their search for a Costa replacement, a new centre-back and another wing-back.
I don't know. We've shown recently that we have no issue selling good players to teams that can harm us. Mata, Cech, Lukaku...
Wouldn't put it past our board to sanction Matic to you guys.
Reverse psychology, nice.I don't know. We've shown recently that we have no issue selling good players to teams that can harm us. Mata, Cech, Lukaku...
Wouldn't put it past our board to sanction Matic to you guys.
Not going to work though, you guys keep him.
Seriously, I hope we do keep him. You guys were the perfect warning last season for what can happen when you play 60 games or whatever it was. We need all the bodies we can have.
I think he'd hold us back from making an evolutionary step forward.
No doubt he's good with a close deep-laying midfielder in a 4-2-3-1, but I can't see him making it in a midfield three. If he were in the team we'd continue to see Pogba constrained. That's not worth it when 15 draws costed us so much.
Not all players are the same. And a few niggling injuries at that age is a killer.
We limped over the line. Thank god Pogba and a couple of the CBs were fit towards the end. Without them we would be literally fecked.
Seriously, I hope we do keep him. You guys were the perfect warning last season for what can happen when you play 60 games or whatever it was. We need all the bodies we can have.
Not exactly the Millenium Falcon is he?
Not a bad signing if it happens. Matic over fabinho all day for me. Matic can play that holding role allowing both ander and pogba to play with freedon in 4-3-3, matic can also be up for a centre back if so required at times of crisis. His long range shots and headers arent too bad either. But in a system where we play 4-2-3-1, matic cant be used.
Just curious, what are the credible sources that have linked us to matic so far. Any quotes or anything out there?
Just curious, what are the credible sources that have linked us to matic so far. Any quotes or anything out there?
The trouble is we need to get back to the top before we attract top quality players.
Are you for real? We have pogba and Herrera for attacking in there. What rubbish you talk
We should sign both Maticand Fabinho since he would be a cover for RB as well.Although Valencia is a tank but we saw last season that he began to tire at the end of the season because we did not rotate him enough.In games we could play Matic in midfield and Fabinho at RB + the injury record we have is not that good. We already saw that once Pogba is out we don't have midfielders to cover for him. With Periera coming in next season,Pogba,Fellaini,herrera,Matic ,Fabinho(cover for RB as well) our midfield would be one of the best in the league.That is just my thinking though,not sure if Mourinho thinks this as well.
Would prefer Fabinho and Semedo, or Matic and Semedo - basically, I'd like a central midfielder and a rightback - not Fabinho being played out of position. From what I've seen I prefer Fabinho to Matic, but I'm pretty sure Mourinho and his team have a better idea than I do so I'll happily accept whichever midfielder they believe to be right for us
Pogba and Herrera are CM not AM. They are not great for attacking.
Would prefer Fabinho but I wouldn't be totally against this signing.
You call Fellaini braindead but he offers more offensively than Matic.
A midfield three will obviously have only midfielders. You can't put strikers in a midfield 3 just because they will score more.
the only thing I can think off who offers less offensively than Fellaini is a filing cabinet
No but you can put a n10 there and why is there such a fetish to play with a midfield 3 ?
You can say that but these are facts:
Fellaini:
84 games for Standard, scored 12 goals and provided 6 assists
177 games for Everton, scored 33 goals and provided 26 assists
133 games for United, scored 15 goals and provided 9 assists
77 caps for Belgium, scored 16 goals
Total: 471 games, 76 goals and 41 assists
Average per game is: 0.16 goals and 0.09 assists
Matic:
29 games for Vitesse, scored 2 goals and provided 3 assists
56 games for VSS Kosice, scored 3 goals and provided 2 assists
97 games for Benfica, scored 9 goals and provided 1 assists
154 games for Chelsea, scored 7 goals and provided 20 assists
31 caps for Serbia, scored 1 goal
Total: 367 games, 22 goals and 26 assists
Average per game is: 0.06 goals and 0.07 assists
But keep pretending Matic is far superior to Fellaini in offence. The career stats tell a totally different story but who cares about facts right ?
You replied to a post that said 'a 4-3-3 with Herrera-matic-pogba is a balanced midfield'. To which you replied 'there's no attacking intent'. Now you ask why is it a fetish to play a midfield 3
It's also wrong to say that pogba and Herrera aren't attack minded. Even when he played as a deep midfielder, Herrera has a fair no. of assists.
Pogba is also as creative as any no.10 in the PL.
Not that I agree with the idea that Magic is a better goalscorer than Fellaini particularly but you'd have to factor in the fact that Fellaini played up front for Everton at times and how often in his career he's thrown on just to mill about the box. Those stats for Fellaini are fairly shit when that is considered.
You replied to a post that said 'a 4-3-3 with Herrera-matic-pogba is a balanced midfield'. To which you replied 'there's no attacking intent'. Now you ask why is it a fetish to play a midfield 3
It's also wrong to say that pogba and Herrera aren't attack minded. Even when he played as a deep midfielder, Herrera has a fair no. of assists.
Pogba is also as creative as any no.10 in the PL.
Herrera hasn't got better numbers than most midfielders in the league even the purely defensive ones.
And Pogba isn't very good as a 10.
If the goals and creativity needs to mainly come from them, we will be fecked.
In a system with better wingers and good fullbacks, yes that midfield 3 can work altough it would still be very far from an attack oriented side. With our wingers and fullbacks, that midfield would be a total disaster, atleast if you want to see us score goals that is.
Fabinho, Herrera, Pogba can work but I still feel it lacks a proper creative playmaker. Fabinho, Pogba and James now that is alot better.
- Status