He is a good player but he is on the decline and has been for three seasons according to the stats I've seen . Even Fellaini has better stats than him from last season.
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He is a good player but he is on the decline and has been for three seasons according to the stats I've seen . Even Fellaini has better stats than him from last season.
Apart from all the other considerations, he's 1.65m. No way Mourinho buys someone like that.
Think the best thing about this transfer is that it will keep us all grounded about our expectations from the club. We are all cautious as it could go either way.
Last time, after purchasing Pogba, Zlatan and Mkhi the expectations were sky high and people expected us to make a title push. In the end, we all came to know that a lot more work was needed.
Last time, after purchasing Pogba, Zlatan and Mkhi the expectations were sky high and people expected us to make a title push. In the end, we all came to know that a lot more work was needed.
Reading between the lines Jose basically confirmed the signing yesterday in his post match press conference.
Hodor!
He's such a size queen.
Slight difference in that Matic played 35 times in the title winning side.
I assume all cameras are at the Lowry today hoping Matic emerges.
Breaking news - walked past this morning and didn't see him.
I keep reading about the height and that Jose doesn't go for short players. Didn't Jose confirm that he wanted Kante last season? Kante doesn't look like the typical DM for Jose going from what I read in the CAF
Walked past Lowry?
Excellent player in his first 18 months at Chelsea, that performance against Manchester City he put in was one of the best midfield performances I remember in recent years. But in the last 24 months he's been underwhelming and was probably Chelsea's weakest player last season. In the cup final especially when Kante was having a poor game too I felt Matic got exposed and was torn apart by the movement of Ozil and Ramsey in particular. Think as strictly a defensive midfielder he can be useful but there were better options out there for sure.
It was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek comment, considering his signings for us so far and his love affair with Fellaini. I don't think it's that far off the mark though; he does strongly prefer a certain physical build.
Verratti is not gettable anyway so it doesn't really matter.
As long as we use him in a 3 and ask him to do the job of a defensive midfielder, I think we'll see the best of him. It's putting him in a midfield 2 and asking him to get about a bit where the problems could start, which is the exact inverse of Pogba who will also benefit from being in a 3, as well as the attacking freedom Matic will allow him. This signing complements them both.
Liverpool wouldn't want Lukaku because he doesn't suit their style, doesn't mean he isn't a very good player. Chelsea play with a dynamic mid and a more dynamic creator, Matic isn't suited to their system. We need an anchor to replace Carrick and we play with one. Different strokes. It's hardly the case that we should have bought Bakayoko, he wouldn't have fit the role we were buying for.
I very much hope Matic is not played against weaker opposition and be replaced with a more attack minded player.
yeah, 1-4-3-3 against bigger sides, 1-4-2-3-1 against lesser teams
Think it will be matic+pogba against the minnows and Herrera added to it in the big games. Something like this
DDG
Valencia-Bailly-Jones-Blind
Matic-Pogba
Mata-Mkhi-Martial
Lukaku
DDG
Valencia-Bailly-Jones-Blind
Matic
Herrera-Pogba
Mata-Lukaku-Martial
BBC have quite damning evidence showing Matic's decline.
I'm confident it'll be pretty alright.
Just wait,
With Pereira as nr.4, i like it
Hope you're not the official song maker
You should be aware that this is now a legally binding contract. The caff will hold you responsible for a poor season.
what is the compensation scheme should your prediction go arse shaped?
Another mentalist that includes the GK in formations
this is the orthodox way. i prefer it this way.
Huh?
Can you share the link?
I don't know as much about him as I should, but from what I can tell, I'm happy with him from a depth point of view. Feels like we're finally moving forward with the midfielders, even if it's not amazingly exciting.
I still think we should be buying at least 2 more players as well as.
I still think we should be buying at least 2 more players as well as.
It's only a matter of time before Pep plays a genius 0-0-11-0
Sorry at work but if you click this link youl find his declining stats with respect to his own performance in previous seasons and with his peers.
Nemanja Matic: Man Utd close to signing Chelsea midfielder - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40770192
Playing a different role, one which wasn't suited to him.
no what?
I guess his tackling numbers declined last season because they put Kante next to him instead of Fabregas, so he literally did not need to do that much of the dirty work.
This is why stats alone never prove anything, context is required. Kante was brought in and shared much of that workload.
Those same stats could suggest that Fellaini is as good a destroyer as Bakayoko, though. Or Herrera is defensively as good as Kante. Think using those 3 numbers alone as evidence of defensive ability is a gross oversimplification.
so what they're saying is Fellaini is the best midfielder out of that bunch and we would be foolish to sell.
Yeah sure Matic is declining because he is winning less duels, nothing to do with change of system or anything.
Lets see the POTY and whether he is declining.
Last one is total duels which decreased from 47% to 40%.
Also number of aerial duels won decreased from 1.13 to 0.52.
Kante is clearly on decline.
Lets see the POTY and whether he is declining.
Last one is total duels which decreased from 47% to 40%.
Also number of aerial duels won decreased from 1.13 to 0.52.
Kante is clearly on decline.
Glad you cleared that up.
He was playing alongside Kante. Obviously his numbers wont be as high if there are 2 players doing the same job...
You're citing an article that ultimately concluded:
Damning stuff.
Exactly. Context is everything.
This.
Stats can always tell the story that you want them to tell. Perspective, perception and preference.
Lets give him a chance, just like we will with Lukaku and Lindelof
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