We should do well with the personnel we have but we know how a season can go too. I've put $100 on United to win the league.
Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed
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We are only buying one more player this window at most. 40 million won't alter our available funds for future windows.
Don't know what's the fuss about the money we are paying for him when you consider some of the $ paid in this market.
He is a perfect player to get the max out of Pog and Herrera, this was not possible last year. He will be 29, so still good 3-4 years we can get out of him. I prefer his age given we have a relatively young squad. Is he the best option? I don't know but certainly a very good option and will immensely improve our way of playing.
This year we need a winger, I think we will have a great balanced squad, Mou has done a great job in getting the right players for right position I think once we have a winger, we will fight for the title.
Yes, we are missing that winner (like ronaldo, neymar and messi etc) and given the size of the Club we should have one. But you can't have everything u need in one year( don't forget griezman was a done deal before the ban).
He is a perfect player to get the max out of Pog and Herrera, this was not possible last year. He will be 29, so still good 3-4 years we can get out of him. I prefer his age given we have a relatively young squad. Is he the best option? I don't know but certainly a very good option and will immensely improve our way of playing.
This year we need a winger, I think we will have a great balanced squad, Mou has done a great job in getting the right players for right position I think once we have a winger, we will fight for the title.
Yes, we are missing that winner (like ronaldo, neymar and messi etc) and given the size of the Club we should have one. But you can't have everything u need in one year( don't forget griezman was a done deal before the ban).
How many more players do you think were going to sign? (Hint: it's one, straight from Jose's mouth).
@cheeky_backheel You need some point of reference to say that he is overpriced. Did a similar player to Matic move this summer for cheaper? Did a better player move for the same amount?
I don't follow every transfer bit of news but from what I've been seeing, his price doesn't seem completely out of line with the general trend this summer.
I don't follow every transfer bit of news but from what I've been seeing, his price doesn't seem completely out of line with the general trend this summer.
and that cos we have limited funds and not cos we dont need more players.
If the funds were not an issue, we would have likely signed all the players we needed/wanted.
Could also do with the fact that it's risky to buy half a squad in one window?
An easy reference - his replacement at Chelsea was signed for same £40m
Not as risky as going into a season with a less competitive squad. 6 new players is still within reason.
In his second season, Mourinho brought in almost 10 new players, with five (sneijder, Etoo, Milito, Lucio, and motta) going into his starting 11 and the team winning the treble
Thats not entirely true.
Well all know talks are advanced with Perisic and now appearently we are looking at Serge Aurier should he have a favourable result in court in the next few days for a good price too. United have always said the money is there for the right player at the right price. As im sure is the stance of most big clubs
And that's fine. The underlying point is that spending £40m on Matic isn't going to mean we can't sign other players if they become available. It's not like the £10m premium is going to stop us signing who Jose feels he needs.
I'm sorry but unless you're involved directly in the club's finance department there is no way you or me or any other fan can make that claim.
There are so many financial factors involved in these transfers that the transfer fee doesn't mean anything to me.
I don't understand why people keep complaining about price where market is inflated than ever before,they need to also understand that we are getting experienced player from league winning side.
I'm confident it'll be pretty alright.
Just wait,
With Pereira as nr.4, i like it
Hope you're not the official song maker 
This is not nuclear physics and you shouldn't try to make it more complicated than it truly is.
The club has a finite income and every money spent on player X means less money is available to buy another player, particularly in the same window.
Still, you have the liberty to ignore reality if that is what lets you sleep at night.
We could just take the Chelsea song.
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You don't know how the payments are structured, so like the post you quoted said unless you are involved you don't know.
I think it's you who is over complicating things.
If Jose wants 4 players, do you really think we're going to miss out on number 4 just because we spent an extra £5-10m on one player?
We will have set a rough transfer pot. If it goes under or over by £10-20m we will survive. The main thing is getting the right players in.
Not really, no. It's not Football Manager. With all the sources of income the club have in it's possession there is a lot of room to maneuver.
The market gone crazy in the last couple of years, players are being valued at a different rate than they were ten years ago.
Paying 40m for a proven PL winner is more than reasonable. People say the 90m we paid for Pogba was unreal, and yet it seems like a bargain today.
Carrick has been out of pace this entire year! Our team nearly always looks awful and incompetent with him on the pitch, even in friendlies so far. Of course our team overall doesnt play the best, but at least we get results.
Hes 36, yet some people have qualms with a 29 year old being bought
Eh? That midfield got us 6th place. It was just a choice between a terrible Pogba-[insert MF] pivot and a wank but less terrible 3 man midfield that led Mourinho to choose the latter. We didn't necessarily play well.
Carrick is past it and Herrera is overrated here. We can do with upgrades over both, but for now, replacing Herrera is not a priority.
It's a kind of Matic.
Scored a goal had 6 assist alone in the league playing mostly as a DM if that is overrating a player then so be it. If your memory doesn't serves u well he was player of the season last season. you will see in CL his true level.
and that payment structure means we are getting him for free?
Never said the club would go belly up cos we overpaid for a player, but simply that it matters cos if you (using your numbers) overspend on your first 3 signings by £5-10m each, you would be £15-30m short on the last guy
If the claim was true that the transfer fee does not matter, then why do we bother negotiating said fees in the first place?
Proven PL winner? Cahill is also a proven PL winner, should we sign him for 40m as well?
Pogba is a generational level talent that is still at a very young age. He is the kind of player you build a team around for 5-10yrs. The 90m was a gamble but a cheap one imo.
Matic is good player but at 29, 40m for him is over priced and the fact that his younger replacement was gotten for about the same fee buttresses my point.
He was playing as a MF ahead of a DM in most games rather than as a pure DM. Had a couple of world class games like the Chelsea and Spurs one, but pretty average otherwise. Attacking stats not good enough in that sense.
But I don't want to make this a Herrera thread. My opinion is in the minority, I know that.
I have to say that my main doubts about Matic was that he was one of those who downed tools during Jose's disaster season at Chelsea. However, reading reports now seems to suggest that he was not one of the "ringleaders"? Anyone got a clearer picture about this?
To say that Bakayoko is a better player than Matic is a stretch at best. Different? Yes. Younger? Certainly. Better? I highly doubt it, but lets check back at the end of the season.
and that payment structure means we are getting him for free?
If that's the level of your understanding then I can't help,
Someone used his performance video against PSG to show he is good player but that performance was Fellainiesque.
I don't understand this comparison, Matic clearly the DM where as Bakayoko more of an CM who suits better to Chelsea's formation to play along with Kante and David Luiz.We already have Herrera who play similar role as Bakayoko, hence we gone after Matic to support Pogba/Herrera.We also need to note Bakayoko played along with Fabinho(DM) where we had been linked with him for all season.Our priority was DM and we gone with Matic who was Jose's priority who is also league proven.
Exactly. We need a proper DM, not a box to box player.
Mou seem to have grown a fetishness for tall players. We will soon start calling him Big Jose
Sensible signing. Will take us up a level in terms of premier league - still think we are a long way off in terms of challenging Europe's best though.
We do need more creativity behind Lukaku though now. Perisic looks dead in the water.
We do need more creativity behind Lukaku though now. Perisic looks dead in the water.
so announcement is likely today?
Pfft, we can't let logic like that get in the way of a good moaning.
Still too aggressive
Nemanja, woahhh
Nemanja, woahhh
He comes from Serbia
He'll hold the door for yer
And he's crap.
I'm still hoping we'll end up with Verratti instead.
I would imagine the headline figure of 40 Million will be compensated by lower wage demands from the player. I would think the contract length will be 4 years with a salary of around 100k a week. Total outlay for Matic over contract term will be around 300k a week.
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