Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

Status
Not open for further replies.
Everything with matic goes also for perisic.
Did we overpayed? Yes.
Is he upgrade ? Yes
Do we have that type of player? No.

And 29 is not old player. Stop with that anymore. Today players play on highest level till 33 so he will give us four good years.
I am not over the moon with this signing but who is alternative?
Dier-70 mil minimum
Sanches, fabinho- obviously mourinho does not rate them that much.
Who else?
 
izzydiggler said:
According to Wikipedia in 11 years he's scored 16 goals...he may have scored a few crackers but with his goal scoring at a rate of just over a goal a season, I'd say it's fair to say we shouldn't be relying on them.
Click to expand...
Carrick has scored sod all goals in his long career as well. If it means Herrera and Pogba can go forward and score and create goals then it doesn't matter.
 
Dumbstar said:
He's a good sub for Herrera when Herrera is tired or over used. You may win two trophies again with him (not the CL) but with negligible improvement to your 6th place.

I'm happy with this signing. Perisic next please. ;)
Click to expand...

Hows the Keita deal coming along? :smirk:
 
AXVnee7 said:
He's just winding everyone up... I'm more surprised people are falling for the bait.

It's a shame because I'd like to hear genuine opposition opinions on this signing. So far I've seen only 1 Liverpool fan I think, but he'd made some very fair and valid points even if I disagree.
Click to expand...

The only decent LFC poster is @Klopper76

The others just WUM
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Everything with matic goes also for perisic.
Did we overpayed? Yes.
Is he upgrade ? Yes
Do we have that type of player? No.

And 29 is not old player. Stop with that anymore. Today players play on highest level till 33 so he will give us four good years.
I am not over the moon with this signing but who is alternative?
Dier-70 mil minimum
Sanches, fabinho- obviously mourinho does not rate them that much.
Who else?
Click to expand...
I know, it seems everyone writes off players as soon as they are over 26.

You can pay all you like for 'potential' but that's always a gamble. People saying Chelsea has signed Bakayoko to replace Matic and he's 22. Well, we have no idea how he will adapt to the PL or his new team. With Matic we have someone who is proven at the top and who will fit in due to the manager.
 
I suppose nobody ever gets excited about foundations of a building. Yet it's the most important aspect of any property. This signing is similar. Not very exciting but just as important.
 
B20 said:
The big difference between you and chelsea is what there is in front of that midfield. You've got nothing like Hazard or costa up front.

I think there is plenty of similarities with our midfield of mascherano-alonso-gerrard. Great on paper, but it only really worked over the course of a league campaign when the supporting cast up front, Benayoun and Kuyt, played the best football of their lives. Too often against the minnows, we ought to have sacrified a midfielder in order to get in an extra body in attack. Not easy when you are benching a world class player for a supporting act, but we failed to score too often because the bodies we had up front just wasn't quite enough. Even when it did work, it still wasn't enough to win the league. Maybe with a world class winger in there, it would have. And your midfield is not quite as good, nor is Lukaku quite what Torres was.
Click to expand...

I find it odd to compare Lukaku, Rashford, Martial and Mkhitaryan to Benayoun and Kuyt (if that's what you're doing)

Lukaku is a prolific PL goalscorer whilst Martial and Rashford two superb young talents. Mkhitaryan had an absolutely fantastic season in the Bundesliga and you know full well he's capable of much more than he showed last season. Add the above to the fact Ibrahimovic is pretty much nailed on to stay I'm confident United will not lack either creativity or goals.

A line hugging traditional winger would complete the balance IMO and vastly improve the squad from last season.
 
Sandikan said:
The only tiny tinge of regret is that Mhky won't get as many run outs through the centre, but most likely it's better him and Martial start wide.
Click to expand...

Jose has so many options available to him at present, he'll be pulling his hair out trying to figure out his best 11.

Sure he won't be complaining though.
 
izzydiggler said:
According to Wikipedia in 11 years he's scored 16 goals...he may have scored a few crackers but with his goal scoring at a rate of just over a goal a season, I'd say it's fair to say we shouldn't be relying on them.
Click to expand...

One less than Carrick in his time at United. But agree we shouldn't rely on him for goals. But considering Herrera's pop shots or even Carrick's it does seem he has a better shot.

I did look up how many assists he's had in the PL and it's not bad. 16 in 120 some games.
 
Sultan said:
I suppose nobody ever gets excited about foundations of a building. Yet it's the most important aspect of any property. This signing is similar. Not very exciting but just as important.
Click to expand...
The number of years people moaned that Carrick was invisible, yet now he is a god.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Carrick has scored sod all goals in his long career as well. If it means Herrera and Pogba can go forward and score and create goals then it doesn't matter.
Click to expand...

My post wasn't a criticism or complaint, merely stating he couldn't be relied on for goals in reposnse to a post saying that having a DM that could score 'crackers' was a bonus.
 
antihenry said:
We're mostly unhappy about the lack of signings rather than losing Matic. I don't mind him joining United, especially for the money mentioned as long as we spend it on younger better players to improve the team and add quality and depth.
Click to expand...

You have a 30 man squad and 12 players on loan, how much more depth do you need? :wenger:
 
izzydiggler said:
My post wasn't a criticism or complaint, merely stating he couldn't be relied on for goals in reposnse to a post saying that having a DM that could score 'crackers' was a bonus.
Click to expand...
Fabinho scores goals, if he is a DM, but he takes penalties so he would do. I am more concerned if my forwards aren't scoring enough goals.
 
I don't care what the FM and FIFA crowd say, these are the type of signings that win you titles.
 
Think he will do a good job in a position of need, 40m isn't terrible, although its a shame chelsea are getting a fat check as a rival.

Just absolutely gobsmacked we arent looking at alexis sanchez.
 
Will have to wait and see how this one turns out. I am not excited about it but not because I believe he will be a flop. I think could go either way: be a an integral part of a winning team or just another cog in the frustrating team play of ours.

Such signings are needed but I still maintain we need a star, top 5 of the world, kind of player
 
Oo0AahCantona said:
Just absolutely gobsmacked we arent looking at alexis sanchez.
Click to expand...

Oh gosh, that unknown gem must have totally passed us by. How we didn't notice him I'll never know.

Almost like Arsenal wouldn't sell to us and he wouldn't join us, isn't it?
 
Not good value, but we now have 3 fairly high quality central midfielders. If one is hurt or suspended we can still field a decent 2 man midfield, so that's good.

Pogba and Herrera played 101 times combined last year. If that number goes down to closer to 90 a year on average with normal injury luck, Matic will help us, as well as the fact that we can obviously throw out a strong 3 man midfield now, or rest one of Pogba or Herrera when fixtures pile up.
 
Gjx said:
You have a 30 man squad and 12 players on loan, how much more depth do you need? :wenger:
Click to expand...
My thoughts exactly. Some of their players on loan are good squad players already. Over years they are spending money like we and city but there is always general opinion how chelsea is not spending anymore. "Poor"conte last year won PL basically with mourinhos squad. Luiz, alonso, kante, batshuayi had no impact , it seems.
This year they spent like us. But again, they have short squad.
But one thing i must admit- they know how to sell.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Fabinho scores goals, if he is a DM, but he takes penalties so he would do. I am more concerned if my forwards aren't scoring enough goals.
Click to expand...

Again, it wasn't a complaint...I'm not trying to debate that it's bad that he doesn't score goals, I was only pointing out that he doesn't.
 
He's a clear upgrade on anyone else we have to play in that role and weakens a direct rival. I'm very surprised Chelsea have let him go to us. Think he's going to surprise quite a few on the caf with his passing from deep and ability to bring the ball forward, he's seriously underrated here.
 
B20 said:
You've switched from a potential midfield of Herrera/Pogba with a 10 in front to a midfield of Herrera/Pogba with a defensive midfielder behind them.
Click to expand...
Who says that the midfield won't be Herrera/Matic with Pogba as an attacking mid?

When was the plan Herrera/Pogba with a #10 in front anyway? The vague and clearly bullshit rumours about James?
 
I'm spectacularly underwhelmed by this transfer, as I will be when Perisic inevitably gets confirmed.

But, as it is clear they are both Mourinho's chosen men, I'm glad we're getting the deals over the line regardless of my own preferences. There can be no excuses made for Mourinho now, granted that we land Perisic as well. You don't shell out these kind of sums for players so close to the end of their peaks (or in Matic's case, possibly even past it) for any other reason than immediate payoffs. If we're not in the mix come the end of the season, there can be no excuses made for Mourinho.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
We have just saw Rooney and Schweinsteiger decline at similar ages.
Click to expand...
Rooney was a star at 16. Schweinstieger got fecked by injury. I could name Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Carrick to name but a few who enjoyed their best years in that period. 28-29 isn't old for a player. Especially one who isn't injury prone
 
This is really good signing, I don't see any balanced midfielder available at the market right now other than Matic, Jose well aware of what he's getting,player who can make others around him to work even better.
 
spiriticon said:
Well, Matic better be sprinting around like a fecking spring chicken for the full term of his contract if he ain't old. If he can't do that, he'd better pass the ball as well as Carrick can.

I'm not convinced. I've always seen him as one of Chelsea's weak links.
Click to expand...

hes not the type to run around all over the place hes more about positioning like carrick, when we have the ball hes always there as an option for a pass and when we don't have the ball hes great a shielding the defense .

im really happy about this he is just what we need , he maybe slow but we have pace all over the park so its not the end of the world to be honest.
 
Very happy with this signing. Couldn't care less for what we paid. We have a player who will free up Pogba to do the damage in the right areas of the pitch for us and showcase his world class potential.
 
A Chelsea supporting friend of mine is annoyingly happy about this transfer. He thinks Matic is declining a lot and according to him 'it's like when Mourinho tried to buy Rooney except we have been smart enough to take the money'.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.