NBA Thread 2013-2014

Will be interesting to see who these three train-wrecks of franchises choose in this historically strong draft.

I'm not sold on Embid, think you'd have to take Parker or Wiggins ahead of him.

As I predicted earlier the 76ers will get Wiggins.
 
Still Indiana is down by a few points. Miami plays solid defense. They just need to get some rhythm offensively and they´ll win. Sooner or later Lebron will start to make points; Indiana needs to step up or they´ll lose.
 
feck Cleveland, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. What a sickeningly lucky, and shit, franchise.

Kings terrible luck continues. No justice at all.
 
Still Indiana is down by a few points. Miami plays solid defense. They just need to get some rhythm offensively and they´ll win. Sooner or later Lebron will start to make points; Indiana needs to step up or they´ll lose.
It's actually the other way around. Miami is the one who needs to step it up or they'll lose. Indiana usually play bad in one half and good in the other (offensively). They will hit more than 50 points in the second half (they will get hot from 3 and start hitting jumpers, they will finish with 90+). If Miami keep playing this way they won't score 50 in the second half, and they will lose.
 
You can't be serious about Chris Paul. It was one of the most blatant feck ups of the stern era. I'd love to hear your reasoning as to why it was the right decision for the Commish to actively veto a trade agreed by all parties. Oh wait you're a Kings fan. I guess that's reason enough ;)

They got a better deal in the end. The Lakers deal was terrible for NO. Simple really. It's not just Kings fans who think so, you'd have to be deluded to think so. The NBA had a responsibility to get the best deal possible for NO, and the Lakers deal most certainly was not it.
 
feck Cleveland, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. What a sickeningly lucky, and shit, franchise.

Kings terrible luck continues. No justice at all.
I thought they only dropped one place from where they should have finished?

Even Miami dropped two places because they lost a stupid draw to both Houston and Portland with whom they were tied for 22nd place, dropping eventually to 24th. :mad:

(I do understand one place in top ten is probably more significant than 2 places in 20+ picks, but still... :mad: )
 
What's up with George and LeBron?

Stephenson is balling. Hibbert is going hard in the paint. (Jeezy, Waka Flocka references)

Miami came down from 2-0 against these Pacers 2 years ago, but I'm not sure if this year's version will let a 2-0 series lead slip. LeBron needs to get going soon. Ditto for Bosh.
 
What's up with George and LeBron?

Stephenson is balling. Hibbert is going hard in the paint. (Jeezy, Waka Flocka references)

Miami came down from 2-0 against these Pacers 2 years ago, but I'm not sure if this year's version will let a 2-0 series lead slip. LeBron needs to get going soon. Ditto for Bosh.
I think it was 2-1. They split in Miami and won the first in Indiana.

George will finish with 17-19, but will hit important shots in the fourth quarter. He's that kind of player. Lebron is out of this game. He doesn't seem to be mentally in it.

And there is no way in hell Miami are recovering from a 2-0 deficit.
 
I think it was 2-1. They split in Miami and won the first in Indiana.

George will finish with 17-19, but will hit important shots in the fourth quarter. He's that kind of player. Lebron is out of this game. He doesn't seem to be mentally in it.

And there is no way in hell Miami are recovering from a 2-0 deficit.

Sir, it's me. No need to be pessimistic. James just delivered 2 assists as you typed that.

Agree on the other points
 
well. Indiana missing out on a crucial opportunity. Its only 1:1 but I dont see how they should win the series. They´ll go out 4:2. Good defense alone is winning games for the Heat.
 
They got a better deal in the end. The Lakers deal was terrible for NO. Simple really. It's not just Kings fans who think so, you'd have to be deluded to think so. The NBA had a responsibility to get the best deal possible for NO, and the Lakers deal most certainly was not it.

No they didn't get a better deal in the end actually. They would have gotten Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom ( pre kardashian) ,Dragic and a better 1st round pick, instead they got Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al Farouq Aminu and a first round pick. Come on dude get real. How is the second deal better? Not to mention Stern had publicly made clear that the GM could still run the team and make trades and then totally switched on that promise because the other owners didn't want the Lakers to get more dominant. It remains the only instance where a commissioner of the league vetoed a trade agreed by three teams! The lakers were giving up the sixth man of the year and arguably a top 2/3 center at that time in the league. Houston and NO got fecked too. The cherry on the feck up cake being he was ok sending the leagues best point guard to a team owned by Donald Sterling.

Damn those Cavs are lucky as hell. Not much trade value in trading the pick for the Lakers. Since it's a pretty loaded draft i hope we take a chance on someone like Marcus smart or Dario Saric if they drop to us.
 
The Cavs are usually idiots, so I'm going to randomly guess they'll get this one right and pick Jabari Parker.

The Bucks have new owners so it's hard to know what they'll do, I'm just gonna guess they'll get Embid because of my premonition that Wiggins would become a Sixer.
 
No they didn't get a better deal in the end actually. They would have gotten Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom ( pre kardashian) ,Dragic and a better 1st round pick, instead they got Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al Farouq Aminu and a first round pick.

Odom was a complete and utter failure for Dallas that season, there's no reason to think he would have been better for NOP. Dragic was nothing more than solid at the time and no one could have predicted he'd develop the way he has. The first round pick they would have got in the Lakers deal was pick number 16 - the pick they actually got was number 10, so you're wrong about that. Scola/Martin are solid scorers/roleplayers but weren't going to make NOP competitive at all. It was obvious NOP needed to get a package in return that would help them rebuild after losing their superstar, not one that would keep them in contention for an 8th seed with literally no room or flexibility to grow. It's completely short-sighted to say the Lakers deal was a better one. It's not all about wins in the short term. They needed to completely tear it down after dealing Paul and go with youth in order to have hope for the future and to get a better pick themselves. They wouldn't have Anthony Davis right now if they'd done the Lakers deal so yeah, I'd say Stern was 100% spot on to veto the trade.

Really, I'm sure you genuinely believe it was a bad move by Stern, but the vast, vast majority of NBA fans outside of Lakers fans know it was the right move.


Not to mention Stern had publicly made clear that the GM could still run the team and make trades and then totally switched on that promise because the other owners didn't want the Lakers to get more dominant. It remains the only instance where a commissioner of the league vetoed a trade agreed by three teams! The lakers were giving up the sixth man of the year and arguably a top 2/3 center at that time in the league. Houston and NO got fecked too. The cherry on the feck up cake being he was ok sending the leagues best point guard to a team owned by Donald Sterling.

Yep, the rest of the league didn't want the Lakers getting more competitive on the back of a lopsided deal when there were better offers available. It's not a common situation due to the ownership situation at the time. People were having flashbacks of the Lakers deal for Gasol, which was a complete f**king farce at the time. It turned out OK because Marc developed into a probably better player than his brother, but no one at the time knew that would happen when he was a throw away second round pick. Again, NO didn't get fecked no matter how many times you say it. Ask their fans - they got the better deal at the time. The Donald Sterling thing is irrelevant, he was owner at the time and you can't not trade with him just because he's a c**t.

Damn those Cavs are lucky as hell. Not much trade value in trading the pick for the Lakers. Since it's a pretty loaded draft i hope we take a chance on someone like Marcus smart or Dario Saric if they drop to us.

They really don't deserve it! I think the Lakers will take Smart, which will break my heart a little. I really like him and think he's going to be a beast. I'd love him on the Kings. Saric should be there for the Lakers if they want him but I imagine they'll go with Smart. Wouldn't be surprised to see Vonleh as the Lakers pick either, but I'm guessing Smart is top of their board now that Exum is likely out of their range.
 
Odom was the reigning sixth man of the year. No one could have predicted how bad he would be for Dallas least of all Mark Cuban. Anyways I will concede the point that it is not as black and white as I previously thought but I still maintain that it completely destroyed Sterns credibility and was extremely unfair on all the teams in the trade. The thing you forget is all the teams AGREED to the trade. It's comparable to the FA stopping a transfer between two clubs that they both agree to and doesn't break any rules. That's enough on that topic I think :)

I think it makes sense for the Cavs to pick a center with Waiters and Kyrie in the backcourt. I hope we get Smart too, it's been so long since we had a decent two way point guard and he has great upside. I have a feeling Saric will be special based only on youtube of course. My younger brother is a Kings fan as well so it would be nice to see them make the playoffs. Hopefully we beat them in the conference finals though ;)


Hope OKC win game two tonight. I have a feeling Durant will have a legendary performance. If Paul George has a concussion I assume he will miss a game which is probably too much to make up for the Pacers. Assuming it goes to form I still think the Spurs have enough to beat Miami in the finals. Lets home for some crazy games. Damn I miss round 1
 
Does anybody else wish the NBA would do away with the conferences and just put the top sixteen teams in a bracket style playoff?
 
Does anybody else wish the NBA would do away with the conferences and just put the top sixteen teams in a bracket style playoff?

I do. Only because the East is so weak at the moment. I mean Indiana might but up some resistance but for awhile it was looking like the Heat had a clear path to the finals, while in the West teams were scratching and clawing to get ahead.
 
I do. Only because the East is so weak at the moment. I mean Indiana might but up some resistance but for awhile it was looking like the Heat had a clear path to the finals, while in the West teams were scratching and clawing to get ahead.

The imbalance in the league is why we had such a good first round. Almost all the series were even because every team in the West were really good and all the teams in the East were just as bad as each other.
 
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Does anybody else wish the NBA would do away with the conferences and just put the top sixteen teams in a bracket style playoff?
Great idea. Eliminate half the country and very large TV markets from the playoffs. Also make it harder for networks to have 7:00 and 10:00 starts.
 
Does anybody else wish the NBA would do away with the conferences and just put the top sixteen teams in a bracket style playoff?

I wish they would give out a trophy to the team with the best regular season record.

But yeah, that would make more sense. However I think the main reason for the different divisions is to cut down on travel, the teams closest to you are your division and you play them more than the other teams.
 
Considering how they wiped the floor with the Blazers and are now running the Thunder off the floor it is amazing that the Mavs took them to 7 games.
 
Spurs are really good. Expect them to win it this season. No Ibaka has probably cost us the series, thought it's no excuse for this performance. Even with him we'd probably still be losing. Getting smashed.
 
Carlise deserves a ring, he woke the beast in this Spurs team and the rest of the Western Conference are getting their ass handed to them.
 
Considering how they wiped the floor with the Blazers and are now running the Thunder off the floor it is amazing that the Mavs took them to 7 games.

God that seems like a lifetime ago. And it wasn't even vintage-Dirk Mavs either, it was mostly Ellis lol.