NBA 2022-2023

I don't even really know what the issue is. I know Westbrook cops a lot of the blame (and maybe my bias is blinding me) but I don't think he's even been that bad. The whole team is just...average.

As someone who is not biased, Westbrook has been made the scapegoat for a team that is staunchly mid.
 
The issue is obviously the role players and westbrooks contract more than his play. We gutted the championship winning team and got rid of KCP, Caruso and Harrell all 3 and d guys when that is what Lebron has excelled with throughout his career. It's been awful GMing from Pelinka after the ring and obviously ownership is dysfuctional.

At least AD looks into it, maybe we get the 7th or 8th spot this year.
 
Not to cross streams but I remember living there during the super bowl run, the constant “waiting for it to go wrong because they always let you down” feeling. It was a wild ride
Haha yeah that was amazing. But it was different because we were the underdogs and we got it done with Nick fecking Foles as our QB.

This Sixers team doesn't even meet expectations in the playoffs.
 



I like Westbrook, used to love watching him at okc. But I'm confused as to why Laker Nation and the media are onto him. I mean everyone and their dog knew that his play style doesn't suit a team fighting for rings.
 



I like Westbrook, used to love watching him at okc. But I'm confused as to why Laker Nation and the media are onto him. I mean everyone and their dog knew that his play style doesn't suit a team fighting for rings.

Because they need a scapegoat, despite LeBron having history of playing GM and fecking the team up at the Cavs.

LeBron is untouchable for the media and Lakers because he’s the only one keeping them relevant.
 



I like Westbrook, used to love watching him at okc. But I'm confused as to why Laker Nation and the media are onto him. I mean everyone and their dog knew that his play style doesn't suit a team fighting for rings.


If GS are prime Barcelona, who do the current Lakers play like, Stoke?
 
Dunno whats with these shieldings for Westbrook, did anyone of you watch him last season, its not only question of a fit. The amount of turnovers, awful %s i mean you can fill a 2 hours Benny Hill music on a loop with his comedy shots and turnovers.

Thats not the worst part, he is so out of touch, delusional about himself and his game, i fear reality will hit him hard when current contract expires.
 
Anyone see that clip of Draymond where they green screened his suit to make it Poole’s face :lol: :lol: So stupid but I got a chuckle
 
Because they need a scapegoat, despite LeBron having history of playing GM and fecking the team up at the Cavs.

LeBron is untouchable for the media and Lakers because he’s the only one keeping them relevant.

We will always be relevant. Aren't you a Suns fan? Win one title ever before talking about your betters that way.
 
We will always be relevant. Aren't you a Suns fan? Win one title ever before talking about your betters that way.

Lakers are relevant because the NBA needs a west coast narrative. ESPN is their biggest media partner and have studios in LA for that reason.

Any news isn't always good news, and that's been a fact for the Lakers for a while now. The Covid-championship papers over massive cracks, just like it did for their fellow LA team, the Dodgers.
 
Sure buddy the Lakers are relevant because of ESPN. Not because our history, players, titles , fans.
 
Lakers are relevant because the NBA needs a west coast narrative. ESPN is their biggest media partner and have studios in LA for that reason.

Any news isn't always good news, and that's been a fact for the Lakers for a while now. The Covid-championship papers over massive cracks, just like it did for their fellow LA team, the Dodgers.
I tend to agree. Lakers haven't been relevant since the early 10s in terms of actually having a competitive team. Their ring in the covid season was a one off although I'm glad they won it for Kobe.

Clippers up next for them as well...
 
It's only 1 game but the Pels look pretty darn good.
 
Zion killed Ben Simmons.

Surprised by Jazz destroying the Nuggets.

Its not really surprising, early they need to suffer a bit with JM, plenty of rust there and if they dont involve him, it would just delay him getting back in the groove, also 2nd united in 2nd quarter made a such a mess.
 
The self-destruction of the Nets is going to be amazing. I can't wait.
 
Lakers are relevant because the NBA needs a west coast narrative. ESPN is their biggest media partner and have studios in LA for that reason.

Any news isn't always good news, and that's been a fact for the Lakers for a while now. The Covid-championship papers over massive cracks, just like it did for their fellow LA team, the Dodgers.

I think it's a Lebron thing, moreso than the Lakers. I don't remember nearly as much coverage in the 2017 and 2018 seasons when Kobe retired and prior to Lebron joining. Lebron is going to garner media attention and headlines, regardless of where he is.

It was the same when he was in Cleveland and they assigned Mcmenamin and Windhorst to basically follow him around and write a Lebron-related article ever day.
It's what the general public likes to consume, and they're appealing to the general fanbase.
 
The Wemby tank is off and running. I don't mind us losing these close, very competitive games to good teams. It's pretty much the perfect scenario.
 
The Magic/Pistons game was fun to watch. Both teams have a very exciting young core. Banchero and Wagner are going to be a problem in this league, but man that Detroit team is going to be so good. I can see these two teams plus Houston and OKC potentially peaking at the same time.
 
I see Westbrook had a great night, Embiid also looked lost out there a bit.
 
Also on the bright side, he missed them all. Pain never felt so good.
I was trying to be positive. ;)

What I don't get is why they continue to shoot 3s. They shot 25% (10 - 40) against the Dubs, but instead of trying to get into the paint or shoot some mid range, they double down. Against the Clippers they took 45 3s and of course shot an even worse percentage (9 - 45).

Makes absolutely no sense.
 
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I was trying to be positive. ;)

What I don't get is why they continue to shoot 3s. They shot 25% (10 - 40) against the Dubs, but instead of trying to get into the paint or shoot some mid range, they double down. Against the Clippers they took 45 3s and of course shot an even worse percentage (9 - 45).

Makes absolutely no sense.

Welcome to the Laker freak show. LeBron runs this team, not the coach, not the GM. I feel bad for Vogel and for Hamm who deserved a shot as a HC but is going to get brutalized by the LeBron fanboys. Can’t wait for all the garbage to go so I can enjoy watching them again. Don’t care if they are losing, hell, I watched 40+ games a year during horror seasons because I liked how hard the kids (Hart, Ball, Randle, Ingram) played. This shit is tedious and depressing.
 
Early predictions for bottom 5?

26. Thunder
27. Jazz
28. Magic
29. Pacers
30. Spurs
 
When Russ was in Houston, it really looked like he had understood where his weaknesses were and was self aware enough to know he should stop the things he wasn't good at. For a good stretch, he was killing teams with the mid ranger and driving to the basket. Obviously that was a D'Antoni team that had doubled down on small ball with sharp shooters everywhere, so he had so much space to work with.

I hope he gets out the circus that is the Lakers and finds himself a team where he can just enjoy being himself, probably a non-contending or a tanking team but those are the only teams that can let him be him, and I mean it's not like the Lakers are going to be contenders with him anyway.
 
When Russ was in Houston, it really looked like he had understood where his weaknesses were and was self aware enough to know he should stop the things he wasn't good at. For a good stretch, he was killing teams with the mid ranger and driving to the basket. Obviously that was a D'Antoni team that had doubled down on small ball with sharp shooters everywhere, so he had so much space to work with.

I hope he gets out the circus that is the Lakers and finds himself a team where he can just enjoy being himself, probably a non-contending or a tanking team but those are the only teams that can let him be him, and I mean it's not like the Lakers are going to be contenders with him anyway.

Get out of the circus? Dude is the the clown car and his 3 point shot are the clowns continuously falling out of the car. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever for this situation. He is Ronaldo without any trophy’s other than his sham of an MVP.
 
Get out of the circus? Dude is the the clown car and his 3 point shot are the clowns continuously falling out of the car. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever for this situation. He is Ronaldo without any trophy’s other than his sham of an MVP.

He wasn't a clown show in Houston or in OKC, despite many ups and downs there. Being in the media circus that follows the Lakers 24/7 is genuinely exacerbating the problem. It's like a daily onslaught against him from local to national media, and now we have fans of the team he's playing for heckling him. From the outside looking in, it just seems like he's being made to be scapegoat for all that is wrong in LA.
 
He wasn't a clown show in Houston or in OKC, despite many ups and downs there. Being in the media circus that follows the Lakers 24/7 is genuinely exacerbating the problem. It's like a daily onslaught against him from local to national media, and now we have fans of the team he's playing for heckling him. From the outside looking in, it just seems like he's being made to be scapegoat for all that is wrong in LA.

He is part of what is wrong with the team. Looking past the obvious, glaring truth that he was just about the worst possible fit for this team, his unwillingness to adjust his game to fit the needs of the team is all on him. He is not the first- or second-best player on the team. In reality he probably not 3rd, 4th or 5th at this point. This means he needs to adjust his game and he had not just refused to; he has refused to even try. He's not the only goat (NOT GOAT) on that team, there is plenty of blame to go around, but he deserves a large chunk of it.