NBA 2022-2023

I didn't expect a superman punch. :eek:

If the reports are correct, Poole has been an issue. Green should be sanctioned though, it's not as if he could talk about being caught in the heat of the moment.
 
I didn't expect a superman punch. :eek:

If the reports are correct, Poole has been an issue. Green should be sanctioned though, it's not as if he could talk about being caught in the heat of the moment.
The whole team has denied those reports, as you would expect given they're trying to sign Poole to an extension. I'd be wary of those reports given that Draymond is represented by Klutch and the journalists reporting those stories about Poole being an issue are journalists who are known to be close to Klutch. I am surprised about how serious the incident was though, I just expected it to be a bit more than handbags but that was a proper punch.
 
The whole team has denied those reports, as you would expect given they're trying to sign Poole to an extension. I'd be wary of those reports given that Draymond is represented by Klutch and the journalists reporting those stories about Poole being an issue are journalists who are known to be close to Klutch. I am surprised about how serious the incident was though, I just expected it to be a bit more than handbags but that was a proper punch.

Yeah a friend of mine who's a GS fan straight up said she thinks Draymond has been leaking stories about Poole.
 
Can't see Draymond lasting much longer in Golden State. He's old, he's nowhere near as impactful as he once was, but he still acts as if he was untouchable, let's see...
 
I didn't expect a superman punch. :eek:

If the reports are correct, Poole has been an issue. Green should be sanctioned though, it's not as if he could talk about being caught in the heat of the moment.
Was he wearing a short skirt?

It is time the GSW, their players, their fans, the NBA, the reporters and the referees stop enabling this bitch. Should not play in the league again.
 
Is that supposed to be a good source :lol:

Well I don’t follow GS news, leaks or rumours unless they become national news. I’m not saying she’s any kind of source. Just saying what the only GS fan I know in real life told me :wenger:
 
Yeah with everything like this seeing the video just makes you understand the level of viciousness involved. Fine and suspension is mandatory and i mean from the league. How the warriors handle it will also be interesting.
Adam Silver abdicating responsibility for this, says he doesn't have jurisdiction and is leaving it up to the Warriors to handle.
 
Draymond is a thin skinned b*tch. Cost his team a title getting suspended in the finals, can't say I'm very surprised.
 
This team is going to be so much fun to watch this season, regardless of how many games we win or lose.

 
This amused me:

Warriors front office:
Can't wait for this season to start. We're loaded

Warriors fans:
Should be great this year watching the Dubs defend the title.

Steph:
This seasons going to be great. Honestly think I'm getting better each year.

Klay:
I'm back baby! I'm back!

Draymond:
Hold my beer.
 
Cheers to whoever leaked the video, Green didn't deserve to get away with that.

My little brother had his retna detached by a sucker punch, luckily surgery fixed it. You can imagine how I felt.
 
Cheers to whoever leaked the video, Green didn't deserve to get away with that.

My little brother had his retna detached by a sucker punch, luckily surgery fixed it. You can imagine how I felt.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Dubs leaked it themselves. I think the vast majority of the organization are tired of his antics but he is a fan favorite. This is the perfect way to get rid of him and avoid any fan backlash.
 
Pity we couldn’t win but nice to see Poole play well. And Steph give him that trophy before the game.

Draymond you twat you have a lot of making up to do
 
I think Draymond gets traded if the Warriors start poorly. Would take GP2 + Grant on an expiring from the Blazers if that was on the table.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if the Dubs leaked it themselves. I think the vast majority of the organization are tired of his antics but he is a fan favorite. This is the perfect way to get rid of him and avoid any fan backlash.
That would be delightfully Machiavelian.

He's had a brilliant career, especially for a second round draft pick, I've rooted for him to succeed.

And I've seen other NBA fights, but it's a cheap shot to a young player, not even in the heat of a game. Green starts it, getting in someone face like that is very insulting, you can't expect anyone to put up with that, a push is reasonable to me.

But Green can't stand the idea he doesn't get to bully him the way he wants, so he raises the stakes.
 
Spineless as usual then.
It's not spineless, it's just sensible. Why would the league get involved with this? Imagine the NBA having to police 30 teams and what goes on behind their practices? They're professional organizations, it's up to them to hand out their internal punishments for whatever goes behind closed doors in practice. Anything out on the court during a game? Then the NBA will be involved, but it would be a very stupid thing for the NBA to start policing teams' incidents in practices, because there are a lot of them and if you start with one, then you are on the hook for all of them.
 
It's not spineless, it's just sensible. Why would the league get involved with this? Imagine the NBA having to police 30 teams and what goes on behind their practices? They're professional organizations, it's up to them to hand out their internal punishments for whatever goes behind closed doors in practice. Anything out on the court during a game? Then the NBA will be involved, but it would be a very stupid thing for the NBA to start policing teams' incidents in practices, because there are a lot of them and if you start with one, then you are on the hook for all of them.
You'd have a point if it stayed behind closed doors. As it's already public, the league which already polices the 30 teams should be the one setting the bar as to what the appropriate punishments should be. Being on the hook for violent, recorded acts in practices is fine precedent to set in my book.
 
You'd have a point if it stayed behind closed doors. As it's already public, the league which already polices the 30 teams should be the one setting the bar as to what the appropriate punishments should be. Being on the hook for violent, recorded acts in practices is fine precedent to set in my book.

And I still maintain it's on the Warriors to deal with it, and no one else. If they failed to hand out any punishment (which I believe has already been handed out, no?), then I'd agree the league needs to step in, but in this case I completely understand them wanting to have nothing to do with it, because it quickly becomes a slippery slope and they don't want to be the police of the practice facilities. Making the video public doesn't change my stance on that personally, I completely get their reasoning.

I just don't think it's fair to call them spineless over this, I think the NBA's shown more of a spine than other sports league when there's been some evidence released to the public of foul or racist play, Sterling and now what's happening with Sarver comes to mind. They're inactive for years until it's publicly released, but once it's out and they have to deal with it, they did.
 
Gonna get a lot of boos.
I thought the incident was terrible, but notably it seems almost everyone in the game thinks its not a big deal. If Draymond was suspended and the Dubs lost games because of it that hurts the entire team including Jordan Poole. If everyone on the team (principally Poole) is OK with this outcome then its none of mine, yours the media's business and the Warriors should just move on and ignore any outside noise.
 
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Really good showing from 2nd/3rd strings tonight
It was so good that I went to bed near the end of the 3rd quarter. That's what we need during the regular season - more Dubs blow outs and early nights for charlton66.
 
Fine or suspension doesnt really matter for GSW, ignore noise from outside and hope shit within gets fixed or at least not ruined. Seems Poole wont forgive Green that easily, specially after leaked video.
 
If everyone on the team (principally Poole) is OK with this outcome then its none of mine, yours the media's business and the Warriors should just move on and ignore any outside noise.
You feel the same way about domestic violence? You think someone who acts like that, when he knows there are multiple cameras around, doesn't abuse people in his private life?
 
I thought the incident was terrible, but notably it seems almost everyone in the game thinks its not a big deal. If Draymond was suspended and the Dubs lost games because of it that hurts the entire team including Jordan Poole. If everyone on the team (principally Poole) is OK with this outcome then its none of mine, yours the media's business and the Warriors should just move on and ignore any outside noise.
Why is it none of anyone's business? I can't have an opinion?

There's no indication Jordan Poole is OK with Green. Even if he is, I can certainly find it distasteful.
 
Why is it none of anyone's business? I can't have an opinion?

There's no indication Jordan Poole is OK with Green. Even if he is, I can certainly find it distasteful.
You can have an opinion. I've given you mine - I thought it was terrible. What I said (or what I meant) was that no matter what our opinions are, if the Warriors think that the decisions they have made in this incident are what's best for the team then it doesn't matter what you, me and everyone else thinks.
 
You feel the same way about domestic violence? You think someone who acts like that, when he knows there are multiple cameras around, doesn't abuse people in his private life?
I don't see how domestic violence is even part of the equation here. There is no evidence at all, nor has it ever been mentioned in any way, shape or form that Green is an abuser. I think it's shameful that you would bring up something like that. Multiple athletes have been involved in fights in their professional lives. Are we going to say that they are all domestic violence abusers? Shameful, truly shameful.
 
You can have an opinion. I've given you mine - I thought it was terrible. What I said (or what I meant) was that no matter what our opinions are, if the Warriors think that the decisions they have made in this incident are what's best for the team then it doesn't matter what you, me and everyone else thinks.
I still don't agree, what everyone thinks "matters". Why wouldn't it?

Public opinion matters, it effects many things, like Green's next contact. I'll certainly be unhappy if the Lakers sign him as he wants next year. This will cost him cash.

Look how buying Arnautovic went after the fan reaction. Didn't only matter what he and the team thought then. Personally I think racism is worse than a punch but that's not by any means written in stone.

Honestly I think the Warriors would do better to suspend him, then people would feel something was done, like with Artest, and then they will be more willing to move on. They don't need him for 82 games to get into the playoffs, anyway.
 
I don't see how domestic violence is even part of the equation here. There is no evidence at all, nor has it ever been mentioned in any way, shape or form that Green is an abuser. I think it's shameful that you would bring up something like that. Multiple athletes have been involved in fights in their professional lives. Are we going to say that they are all domestic violence abusers? Shameful, truly shameful.
Fight :lol: it wasn't a fight, it wasn't heat-of-the-moment thing. It was one-sided premeditated assault. There is nothing going on, they are metres apart and then Green goes for the assault. The little shove in-between is totally fake, only done, so he can pretend it was a "fight".
 
Fight :lol: it wasn't a fight, it wasn't heat-of-the-moment thing. It was one-sided premeditated assault. There is nothing going on, they are metres apart and then Green goes for the assault. The little shove in-between is totally fake, only done, so he can pretend it was a "fight".
Again, what has this got to do with domestic violence? I'm not denying what Green did wasn't appalling, but the two are not remotely connected. Why you would choose to do so is beyond me.
 
I still don't agree, what everyone thinks "matters". Why wouldn't it?

Public opinion matters, it effects many things, like Green's next contact. I'll certainly be unhappy if the Lakers sign him as he wants next year. This will cost him cash.

Look how buying Arnautovic went after the fan reaction. Didn't only matter what he and the team thought then. Personally I think racism is worse than a punch but that's not by any means written in stone.

Honestly I think the Warriors would do better to suspend him, then people would feel something was done, like with Artest, and then they will be more willing to move on. They don't need him for 82 games to get into the playoffs, anyway.
You're not going to get an argument from me on this. I'm surprised they didn't suspend him. I would have done so. However, if the Warriors think this is the correct approach, they know the folks involved a whole lot better than I do.
 
I don't see how domestic violence is even part of the equation here. There is no evidence at all, nor has it ever been mentioned in any way, shape or form that Green is an abuser. I think it's shameful that you would bring up something like that. Multiple athletes have been involved in fights in their professional lives. Are we going to say that they are all domestic violence abusers? Shameful, truly shameful.

Maybe not, but the escalation to premeditated violence is not something that "just happens", you have to have that in you. The capacity to resort to violence is something you have or don't, and Draymond has previous in this arena.
 
Maybe not, but the escalation to premeditated violence is not something that "just happens", you have to have that in you. The capacity to resort to violence is something you have or don't, and Draymond has previous in this arena.
I agree. Violent people are more likely to resort to violence, hence the descriptor. However, as I said earlier, there is no evidence that Green has any previous as far as domestic abuse is concerned. If you remember, he actually apologized to his wife during his "apology" press conference because people had jumped to a similar conclusion concerning domestic abuse and confronted her with that fact. He intimated that she was seriously embarrassed- by that, hence his apology to her. I just think unless something is proven its unfair to throw unfounded accusations at someone.

Draymond is a dick, he is a dick with a violent temper, but to accuse him of domestic abuse with no evidence is IMLTHO a step too far.
 
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I agree. Violent people are more likely to resort to violence, hence the decriptor. However, as I said earlier, there is no evidence that Green has any previous as far as domestic abuse is concerned. If you remember, he actually apologized to his wife during his "apology" press conference because people had jumped to a similar conclusion concerning domestic abuse and confronted her with that fact. He intimated that she was seriously embarrassed- by that, hence his apology to her. I just think unless something is proven its unfair to throw unfounded accusations at someone.

Draymond is a dick, he is a dick with a violent temper, but to accuse him of domestic abuse with no evidence is IMLTHO a step too far.

I agree that DA is a serious matter and speculation is a bridge too far, especially with that charge. I was just commenting that this is not the first time he has resorted to violence, and if I remember correctly the incident at Mich State involved a woman being choked (but I think it was by one of his friends). That case was not in the context of athletes getting heated, that was an encounter in a restaurant.
 
Interesting to note, but it appears Jordan Poole was one of the loudest voices in why Draymond Green should not be suspended according to Mark Spears. One of the biggest criticisms that Durant had after his dust up with Draymond was that the front office suspended Green for a game and then tried to pretend it never happened - essentially telling everyone its over, no big deal, let's just move on. This time, the front office appears to have involved everybody, talked it through, got input across the board and then made a decision. I'm not sure I agree with said decision, but as I said previously the Warriors know the parties involved a whole lot better than I do, so who am I to argue that they're wrong.
 
Interesting to note, but it appears Jordan Poole was one of the loudest voices in why Draymond Green was not suspended according to Mark Spears. One of the biggest criticisms that Durant had after his dust up with Draymond was that the front office suspended Green for a game and then tried to pretend it never happened - essentially telling everyone its over, no big deal, let's just move on. This time, the front office appears to have involved everybody, talked it through, got input across the board and then made a decision. I'm not sure I agree with said decision, but as I said previously the Warriors know the parties involved a whole lot better than I do, so who am I to argue that they're wrong.

Someone who believes violence should not be part of the workplace?

If that happened in any other workplace Green would have been fired and charges pressed.