NBA 2018-2019

kouroux said:
Do you think that the Rockets are the only team in the West who have a realistic chance against GSW ?
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Yes. The rockets and the bucks are the only teams who have a chance against the warriors, for matchup reasons and star power. Maybe the sixers if Embiid could stay fit for 7 games, but, heh, it's Embiid :lol:

Also, if the rockets do beat the dubs, i think the bucks win the title
 
giorno said:
Yes. The rockets and the bucks are the only teams who have a chance against the warriors, for matchup reasons and star power. Maybe the sixers if Embiid could stay fit for 7 games, but, heh, it's Embiid :lol:

Also, if the rockets do beat the dubs, i think the bucks win the title
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:drool:

If Portland get eliminated this is definitely who I am rooting for. Seemingly with entire Portland fan base to be fair :lol:
 
Knew I backed Houston for a reason. They’ll win in 7.

Rockets vs Bucks final.
 
Sarni said:
Yes. Portland and Denver will get killed in 5, max 6 if they are very lucky. Rockets have literally built their team with Warriors on their mind.

I doubt Denver would even win a game against them. Portland maybe, one or even two at home if we are extremely lucky. Probably just one though.
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Anybody to win it for me as long as it's not GSW
 
kouroux said:
Anybody to win it for me as long as it's not GSW
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Yeah I'm the same. I have my own favourites of course but I'll cheer anyone who's playing Warriors. I don't like the Rockets but I still want them to beat them.

I think Golden State will beat Houston but Rockets have got them exactly where they want them now. The momentum is with Houston and game 5 will be crucial. I think if Rockets win it it'll be done, they won't drop a decisive game at home again like they did last year.
 
kouroux said:
Anybody to win it for me as long as it's not GSW
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Even Rockets? If boredom was a basketball team, it would have been Rockets.

Obviously, I like GSW to win cause of Curry and KD, but if it isn't them, then I really hope it is Blazers. Though, I also like Bucks and 76ers. So many exciting teams who actually have a chance of winning this.
 
Revan said:
Even Rockets? If boredom was a basketball team, it would have been Rockets.

Obviously, I like GSW to win cause of Curry and KD, but if it isn't them, then I really hope it is Blazers. Though, I also like Bucks and 76ers. So many exciting teams who actually have a chance of winning this.
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I hate him, but James harden deserves an NBA title for the way he's been playing for the last couple of years.
 
Skills said:
I hate him, but James harden deserves an NBA title for the way he's been playing for the last couple of years.
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He's great, and it would be a shame if he doesn't win a title, but the way how they play bores me to death. To be fair, it might be the only way to stop Warriors.
 
Revan said:
Even Rockets? If boredom was a basketball team, it would have been Rockets.

Obviously, I like GSW to win cause of Curry and KD, but if it isn't them, then I really hope it is Blazers. Though, I also like Bucks and 76ers. So many exciting teams who actually have a chance of winning this.
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Yes, even them :lol: but they would be the last team to root for I guess. I'd love it the Bucks were to do it, Giannis is such a different NBA superstar than the others, him winning it would highlight you don't need to be buddy-buddy with the rest to be the best.
 
giorno said:
Yes. The rockets and the bucks are the only teams who have a chance against the warriors, for matchup reasons and star power. Maybe the sixers if Embiid could stay fit for 7 games, but, heh, it's Embiid :lol:

Also, if the rockets do beat the dubs, i think the bucks win the title
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I think the Rockets vs anybody else also goes to 7 games with an obvious chance of them losing. I feel like they are playing at 100% with 100% focus /determination /hustle to overcome the Warriors. Think that's just too hard to keep up but even otherwise I think they tend to get sloppy.
 
mav_9me said:
I think the Rockets vs anybody else also goes to 7 games with an obvious chance of them losing. I feel like they are playing at 100% with 100% focus /determination /hustle to overcome the Warriors. Think that's just too hard to keep up but even otherwise I think they tend to get sloppy.
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I don't think Rockets can take Bucks to game 7. Maybe 6, but I would personally expect it to be done in 5 if that's the Finals.

Portland v Houston could go to game 7 and that would be in Portland...
 
giorno said:
Yes. The rockets and the bucks are the only teams who have a chance against the warriors, for matchup reasons and star power. Maybe the sixers if Embiid could stay fit for 7 games, but, heh, it's Embiid :lol:

Also, if the rockets do beat the dubs, i think the bucks win the title
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Playoff basketball is different of course but the Bucks have a winning record against any team coming out of the West.
 
adexkola said:
Playoff basketball is different of course but the Bucks have a winning record against any team coming out of the West.
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They annihilated Warriors at Oracle too.

They are not the most convenient match up for Warriors to be honest. They don't have anyone to guard Giannis (nobody has) while Bucks have players that match up very well against their Bucks opponents... Middleton can defend Klay, Giannis can guard Durant and Bledsoe can defend Curry. Their bench is streets ahead too and they can throw many different line-ups out there. Pretty much all their players shoot threes too, and most of them are good around the basket as well. Very tough team to play against. Now that they've proven to be flexible and resilient against Celtics I think (and hope) they can go all the way.

They've done this well without Brogdon who will be super important after he returns. Bledsoe, Brogdon, Middleton, Giannis and one of Mirotic/Lopez is their best lineup.

I really, really don't see Rockets beating Bucks over 7 game series.
 
adexkola said:
Playoff basketball is different of course but the Bucks have a winning record against any team coming out of the West.
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For the warriors to lose, two of their 3 superstar scorers need to forget how to shoot 3s. It is happening now, if they get out of this funk(they have to, to win the series), i don't see them going through it again

Bucks-Rockets would be a great series, but i think the bucks are just a bit better on both ends of the floor.

I disagree about denver or portland beating houston btw. Don't think either would particularly trouble the rockets
 
giorno said:
For the warriors to lose, two of their 3 superstar scorers need to forget how to shoot 3s. It is happening now, if they get out of this funk(they have to, to win the series), i don't see them going through it again

Bucks-Rockets would be a great series, but i think the bucks are just a bit better on both ends of the floor.

I disagree about denver or portland beating houston btw. Don't think either would particularly trouble the rockets
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I don't think Denver would trouble Houston that much, experience would be key. I think we would give them a series, especially with homecourt advantage. They'd be expected to come out winners but it would be far from easy.

13 hours until our game! I'm probably going to go to bed early tonight and wake up at 5 to watch the whole game. Monday was tough after staying up to watch it, going to bed at 4 and waking up at 7 wasn't easy.
 
Sarni said:
They annihilated Warriors at Oracle too.

They are not the most convenient match up for Warriors to be honest. They don't have anyone to guard Giannis (nobody has) while Bucks have players that match up very well against their Bucks opponents... Middleton can defend Klay, Giannis can guard Durant and Bledsoe can defend Curry. Their bench is streets ahead too and they can throw many different line-ups out there. Pretty much all their players shoot threes too, and most of them are good around the basket as well. Very tough team to play against. Now that they've proven to be flexible and resilient against Celtics I think (and hope) they can go all the way.

They've done this well without Brogdon who will be super important after he returns. Bledsoe, Brogdon, Middleton, Giannis and one of Mirotic/Lopez is their best lineup.

I really, really don't see Rockets beating Bucks over 7 game series.
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Durant is going to score more than him in a potential duel between them. No one can guard the likes of Durant and Giannis, anyway. Make their life difficult yes, but in the end Giannis will average circa 30 points per match and Durant circa 35.
 
Revan said:
Durant is going to score more than him in a potential duel between them. No one can guard the likes of Durant and Giannis, anyway. Make their life difficult yes, but in the end Giannis will average circa 30 points per match and Durant circa 35.
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I'm not sure he is. He hasn't faced a defender like Giannis (or Kawhi) so far in these playoffs. It's very difficult to average 35 against a top defender.

Bledsoe, Brogdon, Mirotic, Lopez, Hill and Middleton can easily outscore Curry, Thompson, Iguodala, Green and Livingston too. Bucks have 9-10 players who can come and score 10+ points, their points distribution does not rely on Giannis getting 30+ nearly as much as Warriors rely on Durant getting 35+.
 
Sarni said:
I'm not sure he is. He hasn't faced a defender like Giannis (or Kawhi) so far in these playoffs. It's very difficult to average 35 against a top defender.

Bledsoe, Brogdon, Mirotic, Lopez, Hill and Middleton can easily outscore Curry, Thompson, Iguodala, Green and Livingston too. Bucks have 9-10 players who can come and score 10+ points, their points distribution does not rely on Giannis getting 30+ nearly as much as Warriors rely on Durant getting 35+.
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He faced LeBron when he was still a good defender (in '17 final) and outscored him. Also, Giannis is averaging in these playoffs 27.6 points. Being guarded from Green/KD for most of the match, won't make him more effective in the other end of the floor.

Your second point I think is fair. Durant needs at least one of Steph and Klay to be in top form, otherwise, things will be tricky. So far, it has been only him and Green who have been playing at their best, with Steph and Klay being from mediocre to decent, but not great. Klay will obviously have one insane match (he always has one if not more) and win a game for them, but Dubs definitely need Steph to be more consistent if they want to win the title again. As good as KD is, he cannot do it alone. It is not going to be a sweep or a gentlemen sweep though, regardless of who reaches the final IMO.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Why people hate GSW out of interest?
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Cause Durant made the league very unbalanced by joining what was an already good team, and for a lot of people it killed the enthusiasm knowing who is gonna win the league in October. Similar to why people hate Bayern.

I guess.
 
Revan said:
He faced LeBron when he was still a good defender (in '17 final) and outscored him. Also, Giannis is averaging in these playoffs 27.6 points. Being guarded from Green/KD for most of the match, won't make him more effective in the other end of the floor.

Your second point I think is fair. Durant needs at least one of Steph and Klay to be in top form, otherwise, things will be tricky. So far, it has been only him and Green who have been playing at their best, with Steph and Klay being from mediocre to decent, but not great. Klay will obviously have one insane match (he always has one if not more) and win a game for them, but Dubs definitely need Steph to be more consistent if they want to win the title again. As good as KD is, he cannot do it alone. It is not going to be a sweep or a gentlemen sweep though, regardless of who reaches the final IMO.
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I think against Bucks he needs both of them to contribute heavily because you are not getting much from Draymond and Iguodala on the offesnsive end. You will always be playing Bucks at a high pace, no chance these games can stay around 200-210 points mark, they will all be 220+.

I think Bucks v Warriors would be close, I would expect Bucks to comfortably beat Rockets and Warriors to comfortably beat Sixers.

I would expect Warriors to sweep Raptors out of Canada at this point.
 
Revan said:
Cause Durant made the league very unbalanced by joining what was an already good team, and for a lot of people it killed the enthusiasm knowing who is gonna win the league in October. Similar to why people hate Bayern.

I guess.
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Ah I see. Because they do look fun to watch and probably are the team I enjoy most when I occasionally see an odd game.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Why people hate GSW out of interest?
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Nah I actually like GSW*. They earned every inch of their success. Got a bit lucky with Curry's early injuries but no one had them winning that first title going into the season. Everyone focuses on the 3s, but they play the fundamentals of basketball really well (share the ball, excellent defense) . Front office has been excellent for them overall. And the fans** stuck with the team through the dark ages.

*Durant is still a bitch though.
**The day one fans, not the Silicon Valley tech bros, they were flying to and from LA before GS blew up. Glory hunting wankers.
 
With KD they became overwhelming favs and spoilt the competition. But for me more than that I don't like how they have become less of the moving/sharing team and more iso KD.

Taking about iso basketball, KD and Kyrie in Knicks may not be much more than alternating isos. They ultimately won't be that good if that's the case.
 
I’m actually enjoying the Warriors’ dynasty, since I really dislike the Celtics and Lakers and I’m happy the balance of power in the league has shifted away from them and other super teams like Miami. It’s why I’ve always had a soft spot for the Spurs too.

It is getting a little old though and I do want another team to clinch the championship. I’d love it if it was my Raptors but I’m not confident they’ll even get past the bucks, nevermind beat then Rockets/Dubs in the final. Heck I’m not certain they’ll see past Philly in this series.
 
mav_9me said:
With KD they became overwhelming favs and spoilt the competition. But for me more than that I don't like how they have become less of the moving/sharing team and more iso KD.

Taking about iso basketball, KD and Kyrie in Knicks may not be much more than alternating isos. They ultimately won't be that good if that's the case.
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To be fair, a lot of that has to do with Klay and Steph occasionally forgetting how to shoot. When they are on fire, Dubs game is more enjoyable. Problem is, when they aren't playing well, then the entire plan becomes pass the ball to KD.

I agree with your last point. It's gonna be a repeat of KD/Westbrook. Which probably won't be enough for them to win a title (especially if they don't add other niece pieces in the team).
 
giorno said:
For the warriors to lose, two of their 3 superstar scorers need to forget how to shoot 3s. It is happening now, if they get out of this funk(they have to, to win the series), i don't see them going through it again

Bucks-Rockets would be a great series, but i think the bucks are just a bit better on both ends of the floor.

I disagree about denver or portland beating houston btw. Don't think either would particularly trouble the rockets
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The Dubs are actually caught in somewhat of a Catch-22 situation. They play their best basketball when the ball is moving, lots of assists and KD, Steph and Klay contributing fairly equally. The trouble is that if things are not going quite according to plan they panic and start going to KD in iso mode because he can get them a basket an awful lot of the time. Unfortunately this often leads to the other two getting out of sync and not contributing in the way that they should. So what do you do, stick with something you know works with KD or try and change to something that you know can possibly work better? In an ideal world they probably should keep doing what they do best and live and die with their movement based basketball with all three scorers putting the ball in the hoop. However it is a brave man who will choose to go away from KD especially when he is playing as well as he is and right now the coaching staff seem afraid to take that step. Whether it is the right move I guess we'll see.
 
charlton66 said:
The Dubs are actually caught in somewhat of a Catch-22 situation. They play their best basketball when the ball is moving, lots of assists and KD, Steph and Klay contributing fairly equally. The trouble is that if things are not going quite according to plan they panic and start going to KD in iso mode because he can get them a basket an awful lot of the time. Unfortunately this often leads to the other two getting out of sync and not contributing in the way that they should. So what do you do, stick with something you know works with KD or try and change to something that you know can possibly work better? In an ideal world they probably should keep doing what they do best and live and die with their movement based basketball with all three scorers putting the ball in the hoop. However it is a brave man who will choose to go away from KD and right now the coaching staff seem afraid to take that step. Whether it is the right move I guess we'll see.
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Good post.
 
Tonight is the night we get blown out by Denver. Don’t really see how we win the series.
 
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