NBA 2016-17
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You never know. Championship teams have about a 5 year expiry date.
He'll be 32 by then. Not everyone is LeBron to keep up.
Btw, did you mean Lakers of Clippers? If Clippers, their roaster will be old by then. If Lakers, who knows what will happen. Lonzo Ball might not be as good as we think he will be.
Or he might be even better
It's not just him though, our whole young core is maturing - Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Ingram are all a year older and more experienced. Might not be next year but I expect to be back in the playoffs in '19 or '20. Could the Lakers afford CP3 and George? I'm not really up to date with our cap space and stuff. Either way, our slump is going to end rather sooner than later imo.
I think so. You don't have anyone in high wages, right? CP3 is not making that move though, no chance it is going to happen. And how do you play both CP3 and Lonzo.Or he might be even better
Could the Lakers afford CP3 and George? I'm not really up to date with our cap space and stuff. Either way, our slump is going to end rather sooner than later imo.
Don't know, he's big enough to play at SG, have to admit I've seen very little of him. He could learn a lot from Paul as an understudy as well. I agree with you though, Paul isn't coming to the Lakers, that ship has sailed
Lakers will have to dump either Mozgov/Deng via trade. Some poor sucka will have to take in the salary (Nets) plus some of our young asset(s) in order to make room for something like 2 max FA and George. I don't think FO is interested in Chris Paul. It'll likely be a big man or a wing or maybe both. Most likely scenario, we'll keep a young core (Julius, Ingram, and 2017 no.2) and build around them.
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That's assuming they don't trade one of the picks for a Jimmy Butler. There is already talk that Gordon Hayward is going there as a free agent since Brad Stevens was his coach at Butler.
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We need more people like you in here.Shaq would shit all over GS.
I can hope
I love the Centers power game
feck Colin Cowherd and his band of 'the game is more skilled now' bollocks. It's pathetic to watch.
he mad
Yeah it's ridiculous to argue that a prodigy like Lonzo won't deliver when the bigger odds are in his favour, especially under a coach like Walton. He simply needs to adjust his shooting form but he's already a fantastic prospect due to his pass first mentality. We already had the discussion that while Fultz maybe more flashy now and more of an individual winner, Lonzo in the long run will be a bigger asset. He's someone who will make the entire team around him better.Or he might be even better
Could the Lakers afford CP3 and George? I'm not really up to date with our cap space and stuff. Either way, our slump is going to end rather sooner than later imo.
PG13 is nailed on to join Lakers, he's coming home. Him and Lonzo will likely be two superstar level players with a formidable supporting cast. They'd also work really well together. Purple and Gold will be back on the big stage sooner than people expect.
Yeah Hayward is nailed on for Celtics. They should just get Fultz and find some sorry team to trade for Thomas. Then just wait for LeBron to call it a day.
I'm not sure how you have Kyrie at third in the conference....but either way, it's not really a scratch on having the second best player, another top 5 player, a potential third who some would have in the top 10 though not quite for me, and definitely 4 in the top 25....in the league, not conference, is it?
Now, I ask you, if you put Michael Jordan in place of LeBron in this Cavs team, do you see them winning the series?
No
Absolutely not.
Everyone takes a pay cut and assemble the banana boat team. Make it happen.
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No, James is great. The logical move is to simply put Michael Jordan in place of J.R Smith.
I wouldn't mind this happening purely on the basis I want Melo to win a ring.
Jordan instead of Kyrie would do too tbf.
What do people think about Kyrie coming off the bench, to help make sure their second unit isn't getting torched? And LeBron and Love starting with a cast capable of slowing the game down.
I don't think it will be that many years. Curry and KD are approaching 30 now. Thompson and Green are only a year younger than those 2. So I think realistically they have 3 years left at the top.
Yeah things change very fast in that league. In 3-4 years it could be 76ers, Kings or Timberwolves challenging, who knows. 5 years ago Warriors were a 23-43 team.
They will get torched every single minute LeBron isn't on the floor.
People are kind of jumping the gun here. The Dubs have only won one Championship so far. However, if this is the beginning of a dynasty, as a frame of reference, MJ didn't win his first ring until he was 28, the same age KD is now.
KD out there looking like second coming of Kareem atm, bet OKC fans wondering who dis?
Hoping for a Dubs sweep, shit would be hilarious!
Hoping for a Dubs sweep, shit would be hilarious!
It's easier for him at Warriors because he doesn't get as heavily guarded as he was in Oklahoma, obviously. Still, looking at Westbrook and him this season you start wondering how they dropped that 3-1 lead against Warriors last year, some of these games they were properly running away with and they were ahead for almost entire of Game 6. Shame they did not win as Durant would have almost certainly stayed, and the league would be much more fun.
Watched the Lakers at 6 30 am when my family was asleep in India as it was the only thing on at the time. Only really followed the NBA due to Shaq until I came here. By the time I did, Centers were a dying breed.
Simmons and Embiid will not participate in Summer League because of fitness issues. This Philadelphia rebuild has really gone a bit south, not only they gave away Noel for next to nothing, Okafor has turned out to be completely useless and teams will not even offer late 1st rounders for him now, Simmons is yet to play his first NBA game and Embiid has been injured forever - even after debuting after 2 years he still went off injured after a few months. They will get a shot at #3 this year but it's still far from certain that whoever they get will develop as planned.
Fox seems keen on going to Sacramento. If Lakers don't draft him, he will fall to Sacramento IMO as both Philadelphia and Phoenix will take wings. If Sacramento can get their hands on Fox and then get Markkanen at 10, then tank for another year, they could be beautifully set for the future. What they should also attempt to do is to trade their enormous cap space (they will be $36M away from salary FLOOR) to acquire other teams picks. The best they can do right now is to get Gasol or Parker from Spurs (who will want cap space to go for Lowry or Paul) and ask them to attach Dejounte Murray to it (he won't get time to develop if Paul is there), and then ask Portland for #20 in return for taking Turner or Crabbe... Portland will probably do it too, in order not to pay luxury tax. Then you can draft someone like Donovan Mitchell if he falls there (or just combine #20 and #34 to move high enough to draft him or someone else).
Fox/Hield/SF/Markkanen/WCS is a good rotation to develop, and probably no more than 25-win team next season. Then pray you get no. 1 or no. 2 overall pick so you can get your hands on Michael Porter Jr (he's getting amazing reviews + he plays in position of need for them). That's a tasty line up to develop in 2018-19 where they will no longer need to tank because they stupidly gave away 2019 pick to Philadelphia and it's unprotected. You'd have Murray, Mitchell, Papagiannis and Skal in your second unit which is also great. Skal has shown glimpses of quality, Papagiannis could become a good center... Sacramento's future suddenly does not look that grim and that Cousins trade turns out to be a really decent one in terms of positioning themselves for 2-3 years into the future. They'd have no shot at Fox, they would not get Markkanen at all, now they could have both + get a high pick in 2018, and have so much cap space that they will likely get 2-3 more picks comfortably just for cap space.
Fox seems keen on going to Sacramento. If Lakers don't draft him, he will fall to Sacramento IMO as both Philadelphia and Phoenix will take wings. If Sacramento can get their hands on Fox and then get Markkanen at 10, then tank for another year, they could be beautifully set for the future. What they should also attempt to do is to trade their enormous cap space (they will be $36M away from salary FLOOR) to acquire other teams picks. The best they can do right now is to get Gasol or Parker from Spurs (who will want cap space to go for Lowry or Paul) and ask them to attach Dejounte Murray to it (he won't get time to develop if Paul is there), and then ask Portland for #20 in return for taking Turner or Crabbe... Portland will probably do it too, in order not to pay luxury tax. Then you can draft someone like Donovan Mitchell if he falls there (or just combine #20 and #34 to move high enough to draft him or someone else).
Fox/Hield/SF/Markkanen/WCS is a good rotation to develop, and probably no more than 25-win team next season. Then pray you get no. 1 or no. 2 overall pick so you can get your hands on Michael Porter Jr (he's getting amazing reviews + he plays in position of need for them). That's a tasty line up to develop in 2018-19 where they will no longer need to tank because they stupidly gave away 2019 pick to Philadelphia and it's unprotected. You'd have Murray, Mitchell, Papagiannis and Skal in your second unit which is also great. Skal has shown glimpses of quality, Papagiannis could become a good center... Sacramento's future suddenly does not look that grim and that Cousins trade turns out to be a really decent one in terms of positioning themselves for 2-3 years into the future. They'd have no shot at Fox, they would not get Markkanen at all, now they could have both + get a high pick in 2018, and have so much cap space that they will likely get 2-3 more picks comfortably just for cap space.
I had really high hopes for Noel before he was drafted
No one would of predicted Okafor end up so bad, just shows that even high projected draft picks don't always translate well to the league. Can't help but think that 1 or 2 of the projected Top 5 this year might have struggles also.
I had really high hopes for Noel before he was drafted
No one would of predicted Okafor end up so bad, just shows that even high projected draft picks don't always translate well to the league. Can't help but think that 1 or 2 of the projected Top 5 this year might have struggles also.
He's quite good offensively but modern NBA centers don't really need to be that. He's complete trash defensively and cannot rebound, so he cannot be successful.
I like all top 5 prospects this year though. IMO the likes of Tatum and Fox can be elite and go outside top 3.
.I still can't believe that the core of KD, Russ, Harden and prime Ibaka only got OKC one finals appearance.
I still can't believe that the core of KD, Russ, Harden and prime Ibaka only got OKC one finals appearance.
Inexperience and Brooks.
May be adding Pippen to current Cavs would have made difference.
In place of LeBron?
No,in place of JR Smith ,LeBron and Pippen need to start.
...I think we ought to put Magic in as well instead of Kyrie and Shaq would be a good move instead of Tristan Thompson and that Kevin Love he's just got to go.
Hmm! Wonder if Kobe's available.
All those old guys - Warriors would kill 'em.
Hmm! Wonder if Kobe's available.
All those old guys - Warriors would kill 'em.
Haha, in that case a lot of people will change the situation, but I was thinking since people usually have MJ as someone who can elevate a team to greatness and all so if he will be a big difference compared to LeBron here.
And if not, that puts the whole Jordan vs LeBron thing is a different perspective.
Shaq in place in LeBron (and a bit of change in rules...I think we ought to put Magic in as well instead of Kyrie and Shaq would be a good move instead of Tristan Thompson and that Kevin Love he's just got to go.
Hmm! Wonder if Kobe's available.
All those old guys - Warriors would kill 'em.
) is a good shout to be honest. He'd cripple them beyond repair, especially Draymond. Ah, the happiness I get from imagining that....a size 20 right in the vitals. Karma! Ouch!Shaq in place in LeBron (and a bit of change in rules
But fortunately it's all a dream.