NBA 2016-17

Any NBA experts here who think that Spurs can win the series against Rockets? I want to add Spurs winning the series to my accumulator which would increase my overall profit by 50% but just read that Tony Parker is out for the rest of the season. When Spurs was 0-1 down, their odds to win the series was 2.05 and I was very confident they would win Game 2 which they did and now their odds have dropped to 1.95; albeit could have been much lower if Parker isn't out. Still think Spurs can do it as they are very strong mentally and I think they have like the best away record and most importantly, best record against the big teams this season but I haven't follow much in NBA for years so I'm rather clueless now.
 
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MullerUtd said:
Any NBA experts here who think that Spurs can win the series against Rockets? I want to add Spurs winning the series to my accumulator which would increase my overall profit by 150% but just read that Tony Parker is out for the rest of the season. When Spurs was 0-1 down, their odds to win the series was 2.05 and I was very confident they would win Game 2 which they did and now their odds have dropped to 1.95; albeit could have been much lower if Parker isn't out. Still think Spurs can do it as they are very strong mentally and I think they have like the best away record and most importantly, best record against the big teams this season but I haven't follow much in NBA for years so I'm rather clueless now.
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Rockets aren't a great matchup for the Spurs. Parker being out means they have to rely a lot more on Aldrige, Ginobli and the bench for offence and that's not a good thing. Kawhi could always go crazy and win this series himself but I think Houston will take it in 6.
 
Moby said:
Washington are flying. 17-0 run and counting.
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Olynk with a great flop to get Oubre ejected. Jamie Vardy would have been proud. Wizards need to stay focused, they're letting the Celtics get under their skin.
 
Very strange first quarter tbh. Its was like the power supply was suddenly cut off from Celtics , Wizards went on scoring 22-0 at some points that's insane. Celtics players looked completely out of the game at this point.

They restored their rhytme second quarter, their ball movement and shooting become better but the difference was already big enough. The first quarter will cost them a lot.

The match can end with a difference less than what it's now if Thomas goes on flying in second quarter but I predict a wizards win. It'll need massive luck and legendary performance from Thomas to win this coming down from 23 points defect.

And wizards win is better for the series to continue rather than being killed by now.
 
Freedom Aluteni said:
Rockets aren't a great matchup for the Spurs. Parker being out means they have to rely a lot more on Aldrige, Ginobli and the bench for offence and that's not a good thing. Kawhi could always go crazy and win this series himself but I think Houston will take it in 6.
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Thanks mate for the advice. I have decided not to add Spurs to my accumulator, don't want to risk a potential 10k which has a pretty good chance of winning just for 5k more. I won't be surprised if Spurs win this series though as they have great mental strength, just don't think it's worth the risk.
 
Seems series is going to Spurs favor. Now it looks like it will be 4-2 for them. Aldridge appeared at the right moment after Parkur injury and stepped up to lead the the team with Kawhi.

Over gambling of Rockets on their 3s cost them a lot especially when meeting a coach as Pop who will never let such a thing passes his mind without defending their shooters.
 
el3mel said:
Seems series is going to Spurs favor. Now it looks like it will be 4-2 for them. Aldridge appeared at the right moment after Parkur injury and stepped up to lead the the team with Kawhi.

Over gambling of Rockets on their 3s cost them a lot especially when meeting a coach as Pop who will never let such a thing passes his mind without defending their shooters.
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Of course getting 0 points from Lou Williams, 2 from Ryan Anderson, and 1 from Nene doesn't help.
 
Cavaliers proving their regular season struggles did not mean anything, annihilating Raptors so far and the series are basically over already. Celtics or Wizards might still a game from them but they are going into the finals anyway.

Warriors v Spurs could be a test for the Warriors. Still fondly remember the complete and utter annihilation of Warriors on the opening day. Still expect them to come out on top but not a sweep. I actually think Jazz will take 1 game from them too.
 
Warriows will defeat Spurs easily IMO. Durant and Green should be able to do an okayish job on defending Kawhi and Aldridge, but on the other hand, Kawhi won't be able to defend the entire Warrios team.

I also fully expect Durant to easily outplay Kawhi.
 
Revan said:
Warriows will defeat Spurs easily IMO. Durant and Green should be able to do an okayish job on defending Kawhi and Aldridge, but on the other hand, Kawhi won't be able to defend the entire Warrios team.

I also fully expect Durant to easily outplay Kawhi.
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Yessir.

 
So Raptors and Jazz won't even be able to grab a single win ? I have lost any interest in watching Cavs and Warriors series tbh.

Better to concentrate on the other 2 series.
 
Dinosaurs chance to win one game off LBJ died with Lowry's injury

Jazz's only chance to take one game off the dubs was always the dubs taking a night off in SLC

Think the Cavs might actually go 12-0 to the finals. Dubs will lose 1 in the WCF
 
Cavs just beat Raptors 109-102 to win the series 4-0, such a dominant performance, first team to start 8-0 in the playoffs in consecutive years.
 
This series Cleveland were so dominant. At least against Pacers they had to fight for each game, but here, they won without breaking a sweat.

Toronto are Clippers of the East.
 
giorno said:
Dinosaurs chance to win one game off LBJ died with Lowry's injury

Jazz's only chance to take one game off the dubs was always the dubs taking a night off in SLC

Think the Cavs might actually go 12-0 to the finals. Dubs will lose 1 in the WCF
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Moby said:
Another sweep for LeBron James and co. without breaking a sweat.
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MullerUtd said:
Cavs just beat Raptors 109-102 to win the series 4-0, such a dominant performance, first team to start 8-0 in the playoffs in consecutive years.
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Revan said:
This series Cleveland were so dominant. At least against Pacers they had to fight for each game, but here, they won without breaking a sweat.

Toronto are Clippers of the East.
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I was at the game today, my first ever Raptors game - seems we are the Arsenal of the NBA. :(
Lebron though....whoa....infact pretty much the entire team!
 
Moby said:
I envy you! Was a very good game as well.
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Fantastic atmosphere and all that. Really getting into it!
Shame about the team though!
My layman's perspective also lays some blame on the ineffectual coach, maybe I'm being too harsh.
That Valuncunes guy is defo my fav, what a beast, but he's always on the bench?!!
 
Rockets v Spurs and Celtics v Wizards are such weird series. Both are tied 2-2 but none of the games were really that close.
 
Member 5225 said:
Fantastic atmosphere and all that. Really getting into it!
Shame about the team though!
My layman's perspective also lays some blame on the ineffectual coach, maybe I'm being too harsh.
That Valuncunes guy is defo my fav, what a beast, but he's always on the bench?!!
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Yeah the Toronto coach has been getting a lot of flak :lol:

Playoffs have been quite poor so far. No really good/interesting series.
 
Such a crap second round so far. Only two series are close but even these have been blowout after blowout.
 
Postseason has been crap, unsurprisingly. The disparity in quality between the top dogs and everyone below is far too much. I mean.. go superteams!
 
Moby said:
Postseason has been crap, unsurprisingly. The disparity in quality between the top dogs and everyone below is far too much. I mean.. go superteams!
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That's what it boils down to unfortunately. And that will continue while veteran type players are willing to go to a contender for peanuts and be happy playing 5 - 10 minutes a night.
 
Member 5225 said:
That Valuncunes guy is defo my fav, what a beast, but he's always on the bench?!!
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He's too slow, can't play D against small ball lineups and doesn't offer enough on offence to offset it
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
That's what it boils down to unfortunately. And that will continue while veteran type players are willing to go to a contender for peanuts and be happy playing 5 - 10 minutes a night.
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Who do you mean, out of curiosity? Players like Korver, Williams and Frye went to Cleveland but it's not like them being somewhere else would make a big difference. It's players like James, Irving, Curry and Durant who make the difference, I don't think Cleveland's and Golden State's second units are really THAT good, especially when you compare Warriors second unit to the one they had last season with Rush and Barbosa.
 
Sarni said:
Who do you mean, out of curiosity? Players like Korver, Williams and Frye went to Cleveland but it's not like them being somewhere else would make a big difference. It's players like James, Irving, Curry and Durant who make the difference, I don't think Cleveland's and Golden State's second units are really THAT good, especially when you compare Warriors second unit to the one they had last season with Rush and Barbosa.
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Maybe Gasol?
 
RobinLFC said:
Maybe Gasol?
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He got $14M a year so not exactly peanuts, plays on a team that will probably not contend against Warriors and have not really been blowing teams out (not to mention that they were actually involved in the best series so far against Memphis) and is actually a starter.
 
Moby said:
Postseason has been crap, unsurprisingly. The disparity in quality between the top dogs and everyone below is far too much. I mean.. go superteams!
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I think we have potential there but to be honest circumstances have conspired against us. The Pacers could and probably should have won at least one game against the Cavs (possibly two) and the loss of Kyle Lowry (although not affecting the eventual outcome) really made the Cavs/Raptors series much less interesting. The rest of the match ups in the East have been OK with one or two really outstanding games (the Wizards/Celtics overtime game comes to mind). The trouble is no matter what goes on from game to game most people feel it is ultimately pointless because the Cavs are sooner or later coming out of the East no matter what.

In the West I thought the Clippers/Utah series was a good one as was the Spurs/Grizz to an extent. The Rockets/OKC was a massive anticlimax and once Nurkic was essentially ruled out the Blazers were done against the Dubs. In the second round the Spurs/Rockets series has had one competitive game, although the series as a whole has got that "potential" I referred to earlier. The Warriors/Utah series is interesting to me because of the Steve Kerr situation. The Jazz game plan in game 3 obviously involved double and triple teaming Steph Curry and then basically saying to the rest of the team "beat us if you can." When the Dubs are at their best pretty much everything flows through Steph and when this is taken away it affects not only the points he generates but also puts a huge kink in the ball movement and team assists. It was no coincidence that the Warriors only had 17 assists instead of their usual 30+ Saturday night. Fortunately KD was able to come through but as I've pointed out before when this happens the Dubs play a much more ISO type of game and although they still win most of the time, they are much more vulnerable when this happens. The problem is Mike Brown didn't seem to know how to deal with the Jazz tactics. The only reason why the Dubs eventually prevailed was that Steph started hitting shots anyway, it had nothing to do with coaching. I just hope they can come up with something in game 4 to offset this. Either way I think this is a possible blueprint for beating the Warriors going forward.

As to the Conference Finals, in the East I think the Cavs will sweep Boston if they prevail but I think the Wizards could win as many as two games if they come through. As to the West even though I'm massively biased I do see the Dubs going through to the finals where..................
 
Sarni said:
Who do you mean, out of curiosity? Players like Korver, Williams and Frye went to Cleveland but it's not like them being somewhere else would make a big difference. It's players like James, Irving, Curry and Durant who make the difference, I don't think Cleveland's and Golden State's second units are really THAT good, especially when you compare Warriors second unit to the one they had last season with Rush and Barbosa.
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I was in fact talking about Korver, Deron and Frye for Cleveland. And then you have players like Matt Barnes who is taking less than $300k to play for the Warriors. Jose Calderon signed for them to do the same but got injured. These players don't directly win you championships but having these veterans in your second unit gives you a huge advantage over the second units of the closest of rivals to the division like the Raptors, Wizards etc.

Those 3 for Cleveland could easily play for alot of the teams in the league as starters (Korver especially).

To be the fair the Warriors aren't as bad as Cleveland have been for the player stacking, But I hate what the Cavs are doing. Just takes the competitive edge away.
 
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