There are too many one-sided games even when the Cavs and Warriors are not involved. The Wizards are my second favorite team (after the Bulls), but how on earth did Celtics let them score 26 (!) unanswered points in a game 4 of the conference semis? Or the poor display by the Bulls last week. It feels like many teams are happy just to make it to the playoffs, and then don't put the effort.
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Korver got traded just this winter, he had no say in the whole thing. Same applies for Frye who was traded a year ago. Korver earns $5m/year and Frye $8m/year I think, those are both contracts they signed with their previous teams - how exactly is that peanuts?
I agree about the general problem that waived players can simply join contenders (Bogut, Barnes or Deron Williams, although i dont think many teams were after the latter) because you can add as many players as you want as long as they're on vet minimums but those are strange examples you picked.
If anyone went ring chasing its David West or Zaza.
LeBron so far has scored 66% from the paint (Shaq's avg) and 47% from the arc (>> Curry's avg). Stop that. 
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How the hell did Doc Rivers get a vote (unless you can vote for yourself of course).
How the hell did Doc Rivers get a vote (unless you can vote for yourself of course).
He's said he wants to go somewhere he can win rings. Because why not.
So that's Cleveland or Golden State. Honestly, where else is he going to go to "win rings" with the current setup in play for the foreseeable future?
Spurs.
My thoughts exactly... He'd also see a lot less game time at both teams. He wouldn't start for Celtics or Wizards either. I can see him returning to Houston though, but if that's "somewhere he can win rings" I'm not quite sure.
Cavs and Warriors sweeping their way to the finals.
Na, Houston will continue to play Harden at the point moving forward as it has worked extremely well this season. San Antonio could be an option for sure along with Utah if they re-sign Hayward.
The 08 celtics are such whiny bitches.
I think it's just a move by Lowry to ensure that he gets a max deal from Toronto. Unless he goes to Spurs, there is no viable destination for him to compete.
Can Spurs even afford him, though? Both CP3 and now Lowry are linked with them, maybe one of them will land there but I'm not sure of salary structure and how that will have to be modified to make that happen.
If I had to guess I think now Lowry might end up at Spurs with CP3 staying at Clips - talking of whom, that Porzingis tweet and subsequent delete and justification was hilarious.
Yeah, there's no reason to sign extension right away. Doesn't mean he's leaving.
Can Spurs even afford him, though? Both CP3 and now Lowry are linked with them, maybe one of them will land there but I'm not sure of salary structure and how that will have to be modified to make that happen.
If I had to guess I think now Lowry might end up at Spurs with CP3 staying at Clips - talking of whom, that Porzingis tweet and subsequent delete and justification was hilarious.
They cannot give him anything close to a max deal. The cap next year is projected at ca. $104M from what I remember and Spurs are currently paying their players $112M. Their guaranteed contracts for next year is $93M but that already considers no Ginobili (he makes $14M this season). They have $15.5M invested in Parker next season, $16M in Gasol and $21.5M in Aldridge who are all expendable. $10M in Danny Green. I guess they could find teams ready to take Aldridge and even give them assets back. Gasol and Parker would need to be salary dumps so they'd likely have to attach picks/players to move them, but good thing is both have their contracts expire at the end of next season so anyone who takes them won't have to pay them much longer.
They are projected to have ca. $12M in the cap room for the next season so would need to find another $15M - $18M to be able to offer Lowry a deal he might take. I guess he could take $3M or so below max if it meant possibility of gunning for a ring. That means they only really need to find takers for one of them. My guess is they could easily allow all three to go and go for both Lowry and Millsap (with additional $50M+ in the cap they would be able to make it). As I said, they should probably expect to get proper assets back for Aldridge as he should still be valued across the league.
Obviously winning is better than losing, but it's not as if someone like Kyle Lowry is under any kind of pressure/expectation to win rings.
It would be dumb to leave so much guaranteed money on the table in his prime to chase a ring. He could do it at the end of his career.
It would be dumb to leave so much guaranteed money on the table in his prime to chase a ring. He could do it at the end of his career.
Aye, they need to get over it.
Paul Pierce was definitely high in that segment.
He won't leave much money. By opting out of his contract he has ensured that he gets at least $25M next year as opposed to $12M he has guaranteed. It was kind of obvious from the beginning that he was going to opt out, would have made zero sense for him not to. The max he can get next year will probably be between $31M and $32M, depending on the cap, and I am not sure he will get that from Toronto at all when Ibaka is also expiring and it has become evident that they cannot compete for the ring with their current set up. It's not like Lowry is young and can wait 2-3 years to be able to win, and not like Raptors have the view of winning in the near future either.
It could make sense for both sides to part now. DeRozan would probably be a little pissed off about this though.
Tbh I didn't watch a single game for Warriors in this playoffs. They're a great team but their series have zero tension at all. I watched about 2 or 3 games for Cavs, too. Each time I just tell myself they're going to win anyway better to wait for another series which is unpredictable.
I just hope they don't sweep the final as well, will be pretty lame if they reached the NBA final without losing a single game.
The other 2 series are amazing and unpredictable. Spurs and Rockets are rotating between themselves who will dominate the other in each game, and Wizards made a comeback on Celtics. I can see both series easily going to game 7. They're great match-ups and the best series this playoffs presented for me.
I just hope they don't sweep the final as well, will be pretty lame if they reached the NBA final without losing a single game.
The other 2 series are amazing and unpredictable. Spurs and Rockets are rotating between themselves who will dominate the other in each game, and Wizards made a comeback on Celtics. I can see both series easily going to game 7. They're great match-ups and the best series this playoffs presented for me.
Really? Aside from the overtime game between Washington and Boston, none of these games were really competitive. That's strange for series that are tied 2-2.
Memphis v Spurs was the best series so far, closely followed by Jazz v Clippers.
Since we're playing a series, not a single game , then competitiveness for me is in the series results itself. The games could all be competitive but the series in a sweep for a team.
Yeah these 2 series were good, too, and Bucks-Raptors wasn't bad as well.
Ah okay. To be honest I prefer a 4-1 series where every game is tight to a 4-3 series where none of them are really tight.
Bucks v Raptors is a good shout. Overall the quality and tightness of first round series wasn't but it is to be expected when the teams are so close in terms of quality.
It's a matter of different opinions, then.
I think the playoffs this season has been decent overall except for the sweeps Cavs and Warriors are doing, no other series was that easy to predict who will pass.
They won one championship, why are they even a thing? I must have missed the 04 pistons reunion tour.
Personally I prefer the tight series with blowouts as opposed to a not so close series where the individual games are close. As an example, the Cavs/Pacers games were all close but I never had the feeling the Pacers were actually going to win the series hence I could never get up for the individual games no matter what the scoreline. The Wizards/Celtics series and the Spurs/Rockets series on the other hand have seen blowouts right and left but the fact that both series are tied 2-2 and could go either way makes possible future games compelling and therefore for me "must watch TV."
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I'd prefer a 4-1 series with close games as opposed to a 4-3 series with blowouts. Interesting that other people see it differently though.
Also, could someone inform me of the history with Pierce, Rondo, Perk etc and Allen? What is the tension about?
Also, could someone inform me of the history with Pierce, Rondo, Perk etc and Allen? What is the tension about?
Pretty much the '08 Celtics feel Allen betrayed them by going to the Heat (accepting less money) who were their Conference rival at the time. They are upset that Allen didn't confer with them or inform them what he was planning to do beforehand. However, Ray wasn't as close with the team as the others were (was usual for him not to show up at team dinners). Pierce said he always did his own thing off the court which wasn't an issue since on the court is where it matters. KG also mentioned that he doesn't have Ray's number anymore. Allen and Rondo also had issues where Ray thought Rondo wasn't passing to him as often as he should.
They didn't invite him to their '08 team reunion and also brought the issue back up on Area 21 (inside the nba) this week.
Allen responded with this:
They didn't invite him to their '08 team reunion and also brought the issue back up on Area 21 (inside the nba) this week.
Allen responded with this:
Ray owes them nothing. Kendrick Perkins, the man OKC chose over James Harden.
Into OT in Game 5 of the Spurs-rockets, great game, Kawhi is hurt tho.
Old man ginobli doing things.
Did an old man just stuff Harden's shot?
Baldness <3
Yep, they're making it a much bigger story than it should be (although I do see where they're coming from). I'm just explaining the situation.
He has two rings to their one so in those terms, he did make the right choice.
It was a great decision. Not only did he win another ring, he made arguably the greatest and most clutch shot in NBA play off history on the way to getting it.
Ginobili!
Harden is a bit of an idiot sometimes. I think the MVP race got so much into him and Westbrook that they both continued this even after regular season ended. Hogging the ball towards the end of the game when you are down is stupid, made even more ridiculous by the fact that Gordon hit the shot after the buzzer when he finally got the ball (by accident).