NBA 2015-2016

Last week DeAndre Jordan decided to leave the Clippers and agreed to join Dallas, but free agents can't actually sign their new contract until midnight tonight. The Clippers heard Jordan might be having second thoughts so they've swooped in and seemingly convinced him to return/have kidnapped him until he can sign a contract at gunpoint.

:lol:

I wish someone would force me to sign a multi-million dollar contract at gunpoint!
 
Has there been a comparable situation to what we saw from Deandre Jordan and the Clippers today in the transfer window? There has to be.
 
That's ridiculous. DAJ is a joke for going back on his word and the Clips are a joke for doing what they did.
 
Leaving a team with 2 top 10 players for a team with a 37 year old Hof'er is quite foolish to be fair, especially when the team is offering you more money, a spot in the conference finals and the opportunity to remain a top player in the league under the guidance of a great coach and the Point Gawd so as not to be exposed as a fraud (cc:lance).

A what now? Point Gawd Chris Paul has never been to the conference finals in his life and I doubt he´ll get their next year with the Warriors, Spurs, Thunder and Rockets all better than them. :lol:
 
Leaving a team with 2 top 10 players for a team with a 37 year old Hof'er is quite foolish to be fair, especially when the team is offering you more money, a spot in the conference finals and the opportunity to remain a top player in the league under the guidance of a great coach and the Point Gawd so as not to be exposed as a fraud (cc:lance).
Dallas offers more money after you deduct tax and the Clippers are more likely to lose in the first round playoffs than they are to make it to the conference finals.
 
Dallas offers more money after you deduct tax and the Clippers are more likely to lose in the first round playoffs than they are to make it to the conference finals.

Same Clippers that beat the Spurs? same Clippers that had the upper hand in a series against the rockets with a weak bench which is being strengthened this off season? ok.

They aren't the best team in the west, but they are very much underrated on here.
 
Failing that, the Clippers would just lock Adam Silver in his office until he vetoes them straight into the WCF.
 
Same Clippers that beat the Spurs? same Clippers that had the upper hand in a series against the rockets with a weak bench which is being strengthened this off season? ok.

They aren't the best team in the west, but they are very much underrated on here.
Parker was unfit and Spurs have strengthened by adding Aldridge and West, Rockets were down 2 starters and still took Clippers out.

How have the Clippers strengthened? They replaced Barnes for Pierce, and that's a move they'll regret when they realise Pierce can't play every single game and stop dropping games when every single win could be the difference between 1-8 seed in the West. Adding Lance is more trouble than worth, it's a matter of time when he starts pouting over not having enough of the ball or starts grabbing rebounds from his team mates to pad his stats.
 
Parker was unfit and Spurs have strengthened by adding Aldridge and West, Rockets were down 2 starters and still took Clippers out.

How have the Clippers strengthened? They replaced Barnes for Pierce, and that's a move they'll regret when they realise Pierce can't play every single game and stop dropping games when every single win could be the difference between 1-8 seed in the West. Adding Lance is more trouble than worth, it's a matter of time when he starts pouting over not having enough of the ball or starts grabbing rebounds from his team mates to pad his stats.

Still a top 4 team in the West if they can hold on to DJ, Tony Parker is exactly at an elite level anymore so I don't see a significant difference to the outcome of that matchup, LA and DW are fine acquisitions, acquisitions that will make the Spurs the best team in the league imo, now offering DJ a spot in the WCF doesnt make it a guarantee, there are only 4-5 teams in the west that have a chance of getting there and the Clippers are one of them, now who gets to go there is the question, those match ups can go either way come playoff time and the team taking the route that doesn't include the Spurs have a higher chance....of course this can all go south if bodies start to drop ( injuries), they aren't guaranteed, but they are very much in the mix and can pitch it to FAs.

The mavs on the other hand cannot add a possible WCF appearance to their pitch(not if their being realistic).
 
Parker was unfit and Spurs have strengthened by adding Aldridge and West, Rockets were down 2 starters and still took Clippers out.

How have the Clippers strengthened? They replaced Barnes for Pierce, and that's a move they'll regret when they realise Pierce can't play every single game and stop dropping games when every single win could be the difference between 1-8 seed in the West. Adding Lance is more trouble than worth, it's a matter of time when he starts pouting over not having enough of the ball or starts grabbing rebounds from his team mates to pad his stats.

Lance and PP will both be vital come playoff time, if they can stay healthy....Charlotte was just a bad situation.

Besides you need someone to annoy Lebron.
 
Lance and PP will both be vital come playoff time, if they can stay healthy....Charlotte was just a bad situation.

Besides you need someone to annoy Lebron.
This is the West, annoying LeBron isn't the problem, it's actually surviving till you get to play him that is. The Clippers are still undermanned to win the conference finals even if they manage to get there.
 
This is the West, annoying LeBron isn't the problem, it's actually surviving till you get to play him that is. The Clippers are still undermanned to win the conference finals even if they manage to get there.

Don't expect them to win the conference, still expect them to sign players after the whole DJ debacle, I still don't think they should be written off, they have a legitimate claim to make the WCF.

Oh and the annoy Lebron bit was a joke.
 
Don't expect them to win the conference, still expect them to sign players after the whole DJ debacle, I still don't think they should be written off, they have a legitimate claim to make the WCF.

Oh and the annoy Lebron bit was a joke.
They're capped out, they've signed the likes of Wesley Johnson on the vets minimum, which is underwhelming considering he's one of the few players that has a lower basketball IQ than McGee.
 
They're capped out, they've signed the likes of Wesley Johnson on the vets minimum, which is underwhelming considering he's one of the few players that has a lower basketball IQ than McGee.

They are shopping J crossover.
 
Why don't more NBA guys sign deals like Duncan has? I can understand getting paid is the prerogative but guys like Kobe and LeBron make so much off of endorsements that they really don't need to get 'that' paid do they?
 
Why don't more NBA guys sign deals like Duncan has? I can understand getting paid is the prerogative but guys like Kobe and LeBron make so much off of endorsements that they really don't need to get 'that' paid do they?

Top players need to paid top dollars. If they don't there would be a trickle down effect and every player would be paid less. They actually help the low and mid level players get paid more money. Also in Kobe's case what would be the point of him taking a discount, the Lakers won't be competitive anyway he might as well take the money.
 
Top players need to paid top dollars. If they don't there would be a trickle down effect and every player would be paid less. They actually help the low and mid level players get paid more money. Also in Kobe's case what would be the point of him taking a discount, the Lakers won't be competitive anyway he might as well take the money.

All I ever hear in any basketball argument is rings and I don't get why guys like LeBron or Kobe don't take less in their deals to free cap space and give their teams more flexibility.
 
All I ever hear in any basketball argument is rings and I don't get why guys like LeBron or Kobe don't take less in their deals to free cap space and give their teams more flexibility.

It does not always work out like that. See what happened to Wade last summer. Plus LeBron has already taken less for when they started the big three in Miami.
 
It does not always work out like that. See what happened to Wade last summer. Plus LeBron has already taken less for when they started the big three in Miami.

To be honest this this is more a slight on Kobe because he's in a pretty comparative stage of his career (to Duncan) and the Lakers need players.
 
To be honest this this is more a slight on Kobe because he's in a pretty comparative stage of his career (to Duncan) and the Lakers need players.

I love hating on Kobe but, I really can not blame him for the Lakers not bringing in free agents. One when he was offered the contract he was coming off a major injury so I can not blame him taking the money(but, then again I never really blame a guy for taking the money). And even if the Lakers could offer more money to players what top player would want to play with a 36 year old, injury prone Kobe and a bunch of 20 year olds?
 
I love hating on Kobe but, I really can not blame him for the Lakers not bringing in free agents. One when he was offered the contract he was coming off a major injury so I can not blame him taking the money(but, then again I never really blame a guy for taking the money). And even if the Lakers could offer more money to players what top player would want to play with a 36 year old, injury prone Kobe and a bunch of 20 year olds?

Obviously there's a lot more to signing free agents than just offering them loads of money but I do find it weird that no top free agents want to roll up to the Lakers with Kobe's retirement pending meaning that they will be the main guy more or less from the get go. There's nothing bad about being surrounded by talented 20 year olds either. I just don't think the Lakers offer a good basketball case anymore and I do think Kobe has a part to play in that.
 
To be honest this this is more a slight on Kobe because he's in a pretty comparative stage of his career (to Duncan) and the Lakers need players.

Kobe has sacrificed dough for the lakers before, he is going to retire next season, he isn't the player he used to be and as a guard he won't be able to have any significant impact on the lakers, Duncan is in the same situation he has been in for almost 2 decades, same coach, same system, same M.O, Duncan is not the main attraction in SA, its the system, the Lakers dont cant attract players and neither can a 36 year old Kobe... when you combine that with the fact that Buss is terrible at his job, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Besides the god has 5 rings already.
 
Dirk is also an example why guys just take the money. Dirk restructured his contract last summer and with that flexibility the Mavs rolled the dice on Rondo and now they have the Deandre Jordan nonsense.
 
Dirk is also an example why guys just take the money. Dirk restructured his contract last summer and with that flexibility the Mavs rolled the dice on Rondo and now they have the Deandre Jordan nonsense.

Cause Cuban would rather sign vets than use the draft.
 
Kobe has sacrificed dough for the lakers before, he is going to retire next season, he isn't the player he used to be and as a guard he won't be able to have any significant impact on the lakers, Duncan is in the same situation he has been in for almost 2 decades, same coach, same system, same M.O, Duncan is not the main attraction in SA, its the system, the Lakers dont cant attract players and neither can a 36 year old Kobe... when you combine that with the fact that Buss is terrible at his job, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Besides the god has 5 rings already.

This is very true but isn't Aldridge the first big free agent they've got? Ever?
 
Dirk is also an example why guys just take the money. Dirk restructured his contract last summer and with that flexibility the Mavs rolled the dice on Rondo and now they have the Deandre Jordan nonsense.

If it's all about rings you have to take that risk though surely?
 
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