We'd have to because City definitely will. £25m is a good price, if he had more time left on his deal he'd be worth £35m+ in this market.
Nasri To City - Done Deal!
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We'd have to because City definitely will. £25m is a good price, if he had more time left on his deal he'd be worth £35m+ in this market.
Is the Independent's record really that good that we're taking for granted the £25M figure as what Wenger values him at? I'm dubious.
He can't really go much higher than that, can he? City are fools but they're not really paying obscene prices, they usually go around £30m for totally random players but they won't pay £30m+ for Nasri. It'll be around £20m - £25m mark if he goes, it's not really that difficult to guess.
Should he comes, where would he play for us? I mean, i don't really rate him as a central midfielder ie our pressing concern, if he can play there in the first place. I've always thought his best position would be in the hole, or even the left attacker role, which Ronaldo excels for us. I think he is a superb player, but not sure if he really is necessary especially with Young's signing. Ideally, i would do a
Chicharito
Nazri-----Rooney-----------Nani
Carrick/????-----Fletcher
but it seems very unbalanced, and not sure if the likes of Young, Valencia be too pleased to be on the bench.
Chicharito
Nazri-----Rooney-----------Nani
Carrick/????-----Fletcher
but it seems very unbalanced, and not sure if the likes of Young, Valencia be too pleased to be on the bench.
Don't care how talented he is, I don't want a Nazi on the left wing.
He is more than capable of playing in that centre midfield 2 - it's the role he plays for France, and he's played there a few times for Arsenal too.
20-25 million would be a great deal for a player with Nasri's talents.
Its the wages that worry me.
Its the wages that worry me.
I don't know what you're worried about since you're an accountant of one of the biggest teams in football.
If we do buy Nazri, it wouldn't be for the wing position. That's what we got Young for, and have Nani and Valencia for. We'd be buying him for a playmaking position in central midfield.
Alot of people see to think he can't play in a midfield two just because he plays on the wing for Arsenal. I'm sure this point has been made a lot of times in this thread, but he was a central midfielder for Marseille and now for France. He's also played there on several occasions for Arsenal.
I really like the look of him in central midfield. He always demands the ball (Scholes-esque), is very mobile and always finding space to recieve the pass and has the ability to dictate play.
arsenal are reportedly offering him 90k a week, and he said it is not about money, he just want to win things. if he is really sincere about that and that is not a tactic to get a bigger offer, i assume we can get him and offer him anything from 90k to 120k a week, which is a normal figure for a top class player these days. only citeh can go out and offer him some crazy money like 200k a week now.
and 20million for a player of nasri's class is no doubt a great deal. would be the ideal playmaker for us.
Yeah that is why we might not be signing him, because you don't rate him to be a good central midfielder. First of all, we are not going to buy him to play him on the wings. We have enough options on the wings. If we do end up getting him, he will certainly play in central midfield.
Chicharito
Young/Nani------------Rooney------------------Valencia
Nasri----------------------Carrick
Young/Nani------------Rooney------------------Valencia
Nasri----------------------Carrick
Plus Chicharito and Rooney might not be starting every big game. What happens if one is injured? What happens if one of them is out of form completely? Then Nasri will play in the hole behind the striker.
Chicha/Rooney
Young/Nani--------------Nasri------------------Valencia
Fletcher/Anderson---------------Carrick
Young/Nani--------------Nasri------------------Valencia
Fletcher/Anderson---------------Carrick
We also have Giggs and Park who are wingers but are used by in central midfield more often nowadays.
I've never seen him play there for France (who play 4231) or Arsenal (when they play 4231). He has a handful of games in a 433 for Arsenal.
Haven't paid that close attention to French formations, but I'm pretty sure I've seen him a couple times alongside Diarra or M'Vila, with Gourcuff in the hole, Benzema up top, and Malouda and Ribery on the wings.
Like someone already said earlier, if Nasri wants to leave, then Wenger is really not in a position to keep increasing the price tag. If he doesn't take the £20m which might come this summer, then he risks losing him for nothing next summer. But then again it all depends on Nasri and if he wants to leave.
First Paddy gave Nasri the stamp of approval and now Scholesy has. For me this a) shows we're interested cos very rarely do employees of the club comment publicly on players we are linked (Scholesy hardly says anything to anyone
) and b) shows Nasri is the right man for our midfield: Two of the greatest playmakers in the history of the club say he's the one to get who here feels qualified to contradict them?Which is my point to begin with; this could very well be just guesswork. They could just as well be touching up the final details on the new deal he's about to sign whilst we discuss the figure Wenger supposedly wants for him.
They play in different positions
No they dont...
He is all over the back pages with this interview.
When Scholesy talks (rare), it seems, people listen.
You gotta love the guy!
Y'all will note that Scholes didn't say "but he can't play in a two-man midfield"
What I don't get is why Paddy and now Scholes (and Evra before them) are courting the player in the media.
All seems very unlike us.
All seems very unlike us.
I still just don't see this happening, Arsenal will sell him anywhere before they sell him to a rival, and at 20m there should be loads of interested parties.
The only way I see it happening would be Nasri demanding to go to Utd.
The only way I see it happening would be Nasri demanding to go to Utd.
I don't think that that Nasri not being a natural CM is that important. Against league fodder, he'd be fine in a midfield two. Against strong teams, he'd be a part of a midfield 3 and can score goals from midfield.
First Paddy gave Nasri the stamp of approval and now Scholesy has. For me this a) shows we're interested cos very rarely do employees of the club comment publicly on players we are linked (Scholesy hardly says anything to anyone
I'd agree with B if not A.
Scholes is probably just indicating that he rates him and commenting on the speculation that's been in the papers for the last few weeks like everyone else.
Would be interesting to have an insight from someone who has seen him play in a midfield 2
Firstly, isn't Patrice friendly with Nasri? They are quite similar personalities, strong willed and outspoken, I think it was just Evra commenting on a potential transfer as a fan, same with Scholes. It's already been said this transfer window (by Neville i think) that the way United do business is to keep things on the quiet, the players don't know and neither do the coaches or scouts. When United make a decision to go in for a player it's Ferguson, Gill, the Glazers and the Solicitors and probably whichever scout has been the most involved in the process up until then as a consultant.
You know that wont stop people from saying it.
Koroux is your man as he saw him a lot in his Marseille days, he says he was ok there, but not great and that he's better higher up.
Thing is, he's a much better player now than he was back then. I've also seen him for France a few times playing beside M'Villa in a deeper role (vs. England for a start) and he was very good.
If Giggs can play it, Nasri can.
Scholes with no legs played in a 2 man midfield last season, I'm sure Nasri can.
He has all the raw abilities to be great in a 2 (or 3) man midfield. I don't see it as an issue at all. Would certainly be an huge improvement to what we currently have.
Pft, what does he know?
Where has this line come from, anyway? I've seen people saying it about a few players but it seems to have become a prominent criticism in the last 12 months or so that people are latching on to.
I believe that we'll change formation if Nasri signs.
One plays in the middle. The plays on the wing or upfront.
Yh sure nasri can play on the wing, but his natural position is in the middle. They play in different positions.
Which is why they wont sell him to City and he'll hopefully come to us, sorted.
Arsenal havent been title rivals for years and they were never proper rivals like Liverpool and City anyway. It should only be newer fans that see Arsenal as our rivals as they'd have been brought up in a time when they were our main title rivals.
You're looking at that from our perspective. We're lucky in a way to have such great rivalries with Liverpool, City and Leeds. Arsenal on the other hand have Spurs and us. They consider us rivals, in the same way Bolton fans get pumped up for our visit like its a derby game. The Chelsea rivalry only really started after Mourinho.
What? Your rivals are your rivals, sure we have traditional rivals like City, Liverpool etc, as do Arsenal in the likes of Spurs, but if you honestly think Arsenal don't see Utd as rivals then you're kidding yourself.
It's a fair point, though.
Arsenal and United aren't traditional rivals. It's not like Arsenal selling a player to Spurs, or United selling a player to Liverpool.
We've been rivals for trophies going back quite some time but there's never been that historical edge to our rivalry. It's always been purely about competing for the same trophies. Now that City are on the scene - and finished ahead of Arsenal last season - there's no good reason for them to be more reluctant to sell to one Manchester club than the other.
Pizza Gate !!! Keane and Viera they were the days of great rivalry.
On top of that I think it was a tongue in cheek dig at Arsenal competing with City for a Champions League spot rather than rivaling us for the title.
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