Nasri To City - Done Deal!

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Everybody's waiting on Samir's decision. Without any of his quote like "I want a new challenge" or "I stay" everything seems stagnant and it can be really like that for week or two.

The player needs to know his ambitions... or money expectations.
 
Seriously who promoted this "Siorac" guy?

The transfer window is only 4 days old and he is already speculating that we won't sign a midfielder.
 
EXCLUSIVE
Manchester United have been approached with a sensational offer to buy Carlos Tevez back from their neighbours City.
Contact was made this week by a party closely connected with striker Tevez, who quit Old Trafford in May 2009, with a view to finding out whether United manager Sir Alex Ferguson would be interested in re-signing him.

What's it all about? Carlos Tevez (centre) during training this week
Ferguson was made aware of the approach, which was neither at City's behest nor with their knowledge, but sources close to Old Trafford indicate there is absolutely no chance of the player returning, even if City did decide to sell.
With Tevez ready to return to play against Everton in a game which could take City to the top of the table, the club show no signs of buckling under the pressure of the player's publicly-stated desire to leave. And they continue to point the finger of blame for the turmoil at the player's advisor Kia Joorabchian.
Victory over Everton on Monday would mean Mancini's men would be top on Christmas Day for the first time in 81 years.

Strained relationship: Roberto Mancini held talks with unsettled star Tevez
City announced last week that they had rejected a written transfer request and are adamant that the player will be staying until at least the end of the season.
The suitability of Tevez continuing as captain is under consideration by City manager Roberto Mancini, with defender Vincent Kompany poised to take over if he takes a hard line over the saga.
Suggestions that Tevez wants to return permanently to South America because he is homesick and missing his daughters Florencia and Katie - and that he has considered quitting the game - are viewed with suspicion by the City hierarchy two of whom he claims that his relationship with has broken down irretrievably, chief executive Garry Cook and administrator Brian Marwood.
It is, however, believed that Tevez, 26, has told those close to him that he plans to retire from the sport at the age of 30 anyway.

Amazing twist: Ferguson was made aware of Tevez approach
Given permission by the club last weekend to have a short overseas holiday, Tevez chose to go to Tenerife rather than Buenos Aires, where his daughters live.
And last week he was seen in the arms of his new girlfriend, the 18-year-old actress Brenda Asnicar, in London.
City contend that Tevez himself has no problems with the club or the people who run it and that the current situation is an extravagant attempt to improve his current contract which, according to informed sources, already stipulates that no other player can be paid more than he is.
It puts him alongside Yaya Toure on £200,000 a week, also meaning that, if he did leave, only a few clubs could afford to have him on their books.
A City insider said: 'Carlos has been back training with his usual enthusiasm. He will not only return to the side against Everton on Monday, but he is determined to play a part in the team's push for as high a Premier League finish as they can achieve.
'The club have demonstrated where they stand. Carlos is going nowhere. Now all we want is to concentrate on winning as many matches as we can between now and the end of the season.'

How many of you believe this story?

This is also written by Bob Cass.
 
Seriously who promoted this "Siorac" guy?

The transfer window is only 4 days old and he is already speculating that we won't sign a midfielder.

Just because someone is saying something you don't want to believe gives you no right to shut them up.
 
Seriously who promoted this "Siorac" guy?

The transfer window is only 4 days old and he is already speculating that we won't sign a midfielder.

Thats a bit OTT. It's not that daft an opinion really, Fergie's reign is littered with examples of him doing things that the fans wouldn't even dream of doing. I said the other day that we might not sign a midfielder and it was seen as crazy talk to some people.

I think the problem is that some are so desperate for a signing/midfielder that they just don't want to hear what Siorac is saying.
 
Just because someone is saying something you don't want to believe gives you no right to shut them up.


That doesn't also mean that a person can continuously post the same things over and over again and people wont get irritated over it.
 
Thats a bit OTT. It's not that daft an opinion really, Fergie's reign is littered with examples of him doing things that the fans wouldn't even dream of doing. I said the other day that we might not sign a midfielder and it was seen as crazy talk to some people.

I think the problem is that some are so desperate for a signing/midfielder that they just don't want to hear what Siorac is saying.

I don't want to hear it myself, I'm desperate for a midfielder. And I'm desperate for some movement on that front. But, to me, it looks a bit like last season: we put out a few feelers, made some tentative approaches but eventually backed off for one reason or another.

Somehow I get the feeling that Fergie doesn't regard it as crucial to strengthen the midfield as most of us do.
 
I don't want to hear it myself, I'm desperate for a midfielder. And I'm desperate for some movement on that front. But, to me, it looks a bit like last season: we put out a few feelers, made some tentative approaches but eventually backed off for one reason or another.

Somehow I get the feeling that Fergie doesn't regard it as crucial to strengthen the midfield as most of us do.

Absolutely that's why he was trying to get Scholes to stay on......:angel: Just because it feels like last season, don't make it last season. That 'feeling' is called fear. Nothing you can do with it. Personally, I think the transfer windows open for a good while yet.
 
I dont think we'll sign a midfielder before the season start...

feels good. if we sign a midfielder, then I'm wrong but happy, if we dont then I'm sad but right. we see this all the time so why the hype?
 
well it depends on your ambitions. If you think we're a better team then we were last season then we don't need a midfielder, but then again we just lost our best midfielder by far.
 
well it depends on your ambitions. If you think we're a better team then we were last season then we don't need a midfielder, but then again we just lost our best midfielder by far.

you dont actually believe that do you? SAF's not good at spotting good midfielders. He got more wrong that he got right in the last since keane left, so he is shitting himself at the prospect of fecking up again.
 
well it depends on your ambitions. If you think we're a better team then we were last season then we don't need a midfielder, but then again we just lost our best midfielder by far.

Last season's Scholes wasn't our best midfielder by any measure. Giggs and Carrick definitely had a better season than him and I'd carefully say that Anderson had more good games than Scholes who was average to poor after that first month during which he was admittedly very good.

We would have needed a midfielder even if he had decided to stay but that doesn't mean Fergie will get one.
 
Somehow I get the feeling that Fergie doesn't regard it as crucial to strengthen the midfield as most of us do.

I doubt that big time mate, Sir Alex knows how crucial it is for us to strengthen in that area but he's not just going to buy someone just for the sake of appeasing the fans. He'll know in his own mind exactly who he wants and try his best to get them, its not like walking into a shop to buy a bar of chocolate!
 
I don't want to hear it myself, I'm desperate for a midfielder. And I'm desperate for some movement on that front. But, to me, it looks a bit like last season: we put out a few feelers, made some tentative approaches but eventually backed off for one reason or another.

Somehow I get the feeling that Fergie doesn't regard it as crucial to strengthen the midfield as most of us do.

I'd love a midfielder too, but I think we're in a bit of a lull in the midfield market as there aren't many options for us right now. Not that I'm aware of, anyway. I spent a lot time this past season watching Nuri Sahin and thought he'd be a very good option for us, though that ship sailed a long time ago.

I don't buy into the hype around a lot of players. Modric would be a good option, but not ideal. With Sneijder I'm not convinced he would fit our system and his wages, trasfer fee and age pretty much rule him out. Nasri would be ideal, but it's pretty much a case of 'wait and see' with that one.

All in all, I'd fully understand if Fergie didn't buy a midfielder and I do think there is a bigger chance of this happening than some would have you believe.
 
I'd love a midfielder too, but I think we're in a bit of a lull in the midfield market as there aren't many options for us right now. Not that I'm aware of, anyway. I spent a lot time this past season watching Nuri Sahin and thought he'd be a very good option for us, though that ship sailed a long time ago.

I don't buy into the hype around a lot of players. Modric would be a good option, but not ideal. With Sneijder I'm not convinced he would fit our system and his wages, trasfer fee and age pretty much rule him out. Nasri would be ideal, but it's pretty much a case of 'wait and see' with that one.

All in all, I'd fully understand if Fergie didn't buy a midfielder and I do think there is a bigger chance of this happening than some would have you believe.

That's just not an option, we have to build from a position of strength. I refuse to believe there are no attainable cm's who would improve our central midfield. We are so close to having an all conquering side it's a false economy to skimp on (in my opinion) the most important area of the pitch.
 
You're insulting Fergie's intelligence by that logic. As if he wouldnt want to establish a stronger team than last season, and also, he's gone on record as sayin he wants to leave the club in a very healthy state when he retires. The spending is not down to Rooney, but to Fergie, Gill & the Glazers :wenger:

What we've spent isnt a helluva lot by top clubs standards. With said clubs needing key-area players - they buy them, unless you're Wenger of course. Even then, Jones was a panic buy this year because everyone came in for him this Summer, so all we would have brought in & spent up to this point is De Gea & Young - £36m or so!

Rooney's stayin at United because we compete year in year out - if the squad is so shit how come we won the league & got to the final of the Champs League?

If he was gonna go to City, do you not think their squads as good as ours? Absolutely not. The league table doesnt lie. He could have gone there if United hadnt given him the pay deal - not because Uniteds squad is shit!

How am I insulting SAF's intelligence? Have you ever thought for one second that Rooney wanted answers from the Glazers and not SAF and Gill? He wanted to know their long term plan if you may.. Whether they plan on backing SAF with the money required to spend etc.. Also I didn't say we are spending because of Rooney.. I said he is staying because he probably got reassured by the Glazers that the monies will be made available to SAF to spend on players..

Also you cannot discount the Jones signing to say it was meant to be done next year... Simply because it has already been done and because of that we are seeing the likes of Brown, JOS, Gibson being moved on..

Who said anything about the team being shit? I didn't.. But that's not saying that we don't need to strengthen either.. Because we do.. And as you can see we are..

He was never going to leave United.. It was all a ploy like you said so.. He wanted 2 things and got both of them

1. Money
2. Assurances from the Glazers.

P.S Also what people don't realise is that United would have never declined him the money he wanted.. Does anyone remember how quickly the deal was signed after the negotiations began? They started negotiations in the morning and by the afternoon a new deal was signed and stamped.. That would not have happened so quickly unless both parties were sure that Rooney staying was what they both wanted.. Rooney got his answers and money and united retained their best player for 5 more years.. Win-win!
 
you dont actually believe that do you? SAF's not good at spotting good midfielders. He got more wrong that he got right in the last since keane left, so he is shitting himself at the prospect of fecking up again.

sure he is ..:angel:
 
Last season's Scholes wasn't our best midfielder by any measure. Giggs and Carrick definitely had a better season than him and I'd carefully say that Anderson had more good games than Scholes who was average to poor after that first month during which he was admittedly very good.

We would have needed a midfielder even if he had decided to stay but that doesn't mean Fergie will get one.

When ever you go into a season, it's all about potential. There's no certain thing. You can't ignore injury and the reason Scholes wasn't the best - aside from injury is the reason why he retired. He was not the player he was and he couldn't contribute to the levels - BUT on any given day, he's still out best midfielder fullstop.

Sir Alex might or might not buy a midfielder. He might or might not promote from within. He might or might not use Jones or Young in midfield. However, the transfermarket is still open and negotiations take time. IF we don't buy, I wouldn't worry. IF we did, it would back up what Sir Alex said himself.
 
That doesn't also mean that a person can continuously post the same things over and over again and people wont get irritated over it.

If you're irritated by other people's opinions, then a forum - much less, a football forum - isn't the place for you.
 
If you're irritated by other people's opinions, then a forum - much less, a football forum - isn't the place for you.

Clearly you need to read properly. If in a transfer forum, you post that we're not gonna sign X player(which we've been linked with) or we're not gonna sign a midfielder again and again, it's irritating. You've got an opinion, fair enough but keep it to one thread only.
 
Clearly you're the only one getting irritated, has it occurred to you that it might be just you?
 
Clearly you're the only one getting irritated, has it occurred to you that it might be just you?

pisses me off too, he's a little bit annoying with his "we won't buy anyone" tripe. The fact is, he's desperate for us to sign someone but thinks if he posts enough times that we won't then he'll either be right (we won't), or happy (we will). He's hedging his bets and it certainly is annoying.
 
It's really not worth arguing over lads, can we try to avoid this thread going on yet another tangent so that when I look at it in the morning I might stand some chance of finding news about Nasri rather than the pros and cons of the promotion system.

Ta :angel:
 
pisses me off too, he's a little bit annoying with his "we won't buy anyone" tripe. The fact is, he's desperate for us to sign someone but thinks if he posts enough times that we won't then he'll either be right (we won't), or happy (we will). He's hedging his bets and it certainly is annoying.

So you rule out the possibility that I genuinely think we won't sign a midfielder?
 
Fair enough, there are two of you. Don't play the "older member blaming the promotion system" card to shut people up when you can't argue your point. There are many lurkers around these parts, just be one of them.
 
Incidentally, SSN say they have big news regarding City in a couple of minutes. Speculate. Careful not to irritate KM though, he likes his vagina sand-free.
 
Incidentally, SSN say they have big news regarding City in a couple of minutes. Speculate. Careful not to irritate KM though, he likes his vagina sand-free.

:lol:

Moron.
 
Anyways Brophs is right, Mad if you've any issues with me, settle it with PM.
 
No, I don't think anyone "genuinely" thinks they know anything, I mean, why oh why would any of us actually "genuinely think" we know what the club has planned :confused:

Erm, you know what the word "opinion" means? Or we're not allowed to have those if we do not have actual information of the club's plans? In that case close RedCafé, the official site's statements should be enough for all of us - those contain all the facts.
 
Erm, you know what the word "opinion" means? Or we're not allowed to have those if we do not have actual information of the club's plans? In that case close RedCafé, the official site's statements should be enough for all of us - those contain all the facts.

eh?

I didn't say you can't have an opinion and trust me, I have a lot on here. However I'd honestly never "genuinely believe" I know anything about our transfer strategy because in my time supporting United I've never had a fecking scooby doo.

I mean did you think he'd sell Hughes, Ince and Kanchelskis in one summer and replace them with kids? Did you see the Veron signing coming? Sheringham, where did that come from? King Cantona, wtf!

I have no clue if we are gonna sign a midfielder or not, I have an opinion on it though and that opinion is that we'd be daft not to get someone in.
 
Don't worry so.

We haven't had the usual "that's it folks, no more signings" from Fergie yet have we. No. Only thing we have had was from that journo friend of his who says he's looking at midfielders.

I genuinely feel that we have two more signings to come yet so don't panic at all when Nasri either goes to City or stays at Arsenal.

The best is yet to come for us.
 
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