Nasri To City - Done Deal!

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Why are people worried about City gazumping us?

If we are in for him, we'll presumably talk to him and persuade him. If he choose City over us, then feck him - what's the point in stressing over someone who wants to go elsewhere? If it comes down to United or City, the allure of the red side is quite something... Don't underestimate that.

Maybe we're not even in for him?
 
antihenry said:
I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread so I'll just ask.

First of all, doesn't he have only a year left on his contract? So where does this £20m figure come from?

Second, what's with the 180,000 a week wages that are being bandied about? This is Nasri we're talking about, not Messi or Ronaldo.

Don't get me wrong, he's a quality player and I rate him highly but let's not get carried away.
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1 year left yes.

Rest is just reports from paper. Haven't seen any quotes from parties.
 
If he wants to win things - which is presumably the only reason he wants to leave Arsenal - then it's a no brained where he goes.
 
Feed Me said:
If we get the opportunity to talk to him and he turns us down, then he's not worth worrying about. If he joins us, happy days.
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Pretty much. We'd be silly (or have some kind of master plan in the pipeline) not to go and put a bid in and see if he wants to come. But if he chose City instead it would be his loss and we'd move on

Fantastic player none the less. Not a direct replacement for Scholes but I cant think of a better player to take over the Giggs role in CM thats been so successful in recent seasons

And some of the people who have reservations about him should realise he was playing football before he went to Arsenal and was played 95% of the time on the wing, only playing an attacking midfielder role for Arsenal when Fabregas was missing at times

At Marseille he was a central midfielder in a 3 and created goals often. Arsenal didnt create him in a test tube, they bought a central midfielder who had been compared to Zidane in the past and they've turned him into a player who scores goals as well
 
Ekeke said:
If only

City won something last season and they'll win more in the next few years
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Yeah, they'll be in the trophy shake up, but we're still the side with the winning pedigree.

We finished 9 clear last season and have since considerably strengthened...
 
Feed Me said:
Yeah, they'll be in the trophy shake up, but we're still the side with the winning pedigree.

We finished 9 clear last season and have since considerably strengthened...
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Dunno about that...
 
Feed Me said:
Yeah, they'll be in the trophy shake up, but we're still the side with the winning pedigree.

We finished 9 clear last season and have since considerably strengthened...
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We dunno if De Gea can fill VDS shoes... and CM is still our weakest link
 
Ubik said:
Dunno about that...
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What don't you know?

We've bought in one of the Prem's leading creative players, a brilliant young defender and a young goalie who has already got the winning bug.

City have signed Gael Clichy. Arsenal are facing an exodus. Chelsea have done nothing.

We've undoubtedly strengthened in relation to our rivals.
 
Where did SSN get this Nasri to City story from? As far as I was aware it has always been Nasri to United, Fabregas to Barca, and in the last few days Clichy to City. It sounds like a desperate attempt by SSN to get a few more days from a story which suggest to me it could be coming to a conclusion...
 
Feed Me said:
What don't you know?

We've bought in one of the Prem's leading creative players, a brilliant young defender and a young goalie who has already got the winning bug.

City have signed Gael Clichy. Arsenal are facing an exodus. Chelsea have done nothing.

We've undoubtedly strengthened in relation to our rivals.
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So a 19 year old GK can be as good as one of Europes best ever in his first season here?

Getting Jones will have a huge impact on our already brilliant center backs?

Young will improve us, but then losing Scholes and (dare I say it) O Shea and Gibson will counter that logic.

If you're talking in future terms then yes it'll certainly improve us but right now there is no improvement on next seasons squad from last seasons squad.

Feed Me said:
SAF doesn't know what he's doing...

Tards.
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Hardly what we're saying you eejit, just disagreeing with what you said. Doesn't mean we think SAF isn't doing things the right way.
 
cina said:
So a 19 year old GK can be as good as one of Europes best ever in his first season here?

Getting Jones will have a huge impact on our already brilliant center backs?

Young will improve us, but then losing Scholes and (dare I say it) O Shea and Gibson will counter that logic.

If you're talking in future terms then yes it'll certainly improve us but right now there is no improvement on next seasons squad from last seasons squad.
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Young's an improvement on Scholes, who was well below his best as the season went on.

Sheasy's going nowhere. Cleverley will cover for Gibson.

Rio's injury prone - the additional body could be very important.

The squad is clearly coming together nicely.
 
Cina, what you on about mate?
SAF has made signings he feels will strengthen the squad. You lot seem to disagree with that.
 
EvilChuck said:
Where did SSN get this Nasri to City story from? As far as I was aware it has always been Nasri to United, Fabregas to Barca, and in the last few days Clichy to City. It sounds like a desperate attempt by SSN to get a few more days from a story which suggest to me it could be coming to a conclusion...
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Or Arsenal are trying to inflate the price by feeding wrong info to one of the SSN reporters. By any chance, are there any Arse fans amongst the SSN or Talkshite teams?
 
Young might be better than Scholes but he doesnt play the same position. He plays positions we were already strong in. And really we'd miss Scholes' passing more than we'd miss any of Young's abilities. I cant see how you'd make out we're stronger for this
 
Feed Me said:
Young's an improvement on Scholes, who was well below his best as the season went on.

Sheasy's going nowhere. Cleverley will cover for Gibson.

Rio's injury prone - the additional body could be very important.

The squad is clearly coming together nicely.
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The loss of Scholes and VDS was always going to peg us back a bit initially. I'm not saying they're not good signings but Jones is clearly one for the future and Cleverly will do very little to aid our very thin midfield.
(thanks for leaving out the VDS/De Gea part, shows we can agree on something ;) )

It's not a slate on SAF, they're good signings but the thing that was always going to make a big difference this Summer was the midfield. Nothing has been done yet, though I'm sure it will.

Seriously, "big improvement" is bollocks, even by your overly positive standards.
 
Feed Me said:
Cina, what you on about mate?
SAF has made signings he feels will strengthen the squad. You lot seem to disagree with that.
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Erm no I don't, like I said, inevitable weakenings from last seasons squad have nullified those signings. In the SHORT TERM i.e. next season they will have feck all influence on proceedings. The good and bad pretty much equal each other.
 
Feed Me said:
What don't you know?

We've bought in one of the Prem's leading creative players, a brilliant young defender and a young goalie who has already got the winning bug.

City have signed Gael Clichy. Arsenal are facing an exodus. Chelsea have done nothing.

We've undoubtedly strengthened in relation to our rivals.
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Eh? The post said "we've strengthened considerably" - we've signed a good squad player in Young, a potentially excellent centre back and a very good replacement for one of the world's best in Van der Sar. We've added depth and hopefully managed to replace an excellent keeper, "strengthening considerably" still relies on a high quality central midfielder.

Not bashing the squad by any means, I'm very pleased with how it's coming together, just highlighted what I perceived to be a bit of hyperbole about our business so far.
 
Feed Me said:
Young's an improvement on Scholes, who was well below his best as the season went on.

Sheasy's going nowhere. Cleverley will cover for Gibson.

Rio's injury prone - the additional body could be very important.

The squad is clearly coming together nicely.
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Yes it is but it hasn't improved. Also, Chelsea stepping up a little bit make that 9 points clear into nothing.

Our midfield need to stabilize. It was the most unstable part last season. Defense and goalkeeping wasn't a problem. Now we've lost Scholes and brought in Young. That's no improvement on it. Our wings are certainly much better with Valencia being fit and all but in CM we have Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson and Park. Three of them have been very unstable the last two seasons. I'm more concerned with Fletcher and Carrick than Anderson tbh.
 
Feed Me said:
We finished 9 clear last season and have since considerably strengthened...
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Strengthened?

By losing Scholes, Hargreaves, VDS

And bring in Jones, De Gea and Young?

No we really haven't.

As for "SAF doesn't know what he's doing", don't be such a cock, of course he does, and that's why I full faith that he'll IMPROVE his strongest eleven shortly.
 
Sharky7 said:
Strengthened?

By losing Scholes, Hargreaves, VDS

And bring in Jones, De Gea and Young?

No we really haven't.

As for "SAF doesn't know what he's doing", don't be such a cock, of course he does, and that's why I full faith that he'll IMPROVE his strongest eleven shortly.
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hargreaves is a crook... he should not be included...
 
Sharky7 said:
Strengthened?

By losing Scholes, Hargreaves, VDS

And bring in Jones, De Gea and Young?

No we really haven't.

As for "SAF doesn't know what he's doing", don't be such a cock, of course he does, and that's why I full faith that he'll IMPROVE his strongest eleven shortly.
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Losing Hargreaves hardly weakens us...

Scholes is a shadow of the player he used to be...

and VDS - well that is another matter - but let's give de Gea a chance before we conclude that it's a loss
 
lysglimt said:
Losing Hargreaves hardly weakens us...

Scholes is a shadow of the player he used to be...

and VDS - well that is another matter - but let's give de Gea a chance before we conclude that it's a loss
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You aint getting me, which of those players will improve our strongest 11???

I'm not arguing that the squad isn't strong and in great shape. And... our future starting 11 is being created.
 
Ekeke said:
Young might be better than Scholes but he doesnt play the same position. He plays positions we were already strong in. And really we'd miss Scholes' passing more than we'd miss any of Young's abilities. I cant see how you'd make out we're stronger for this
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There seems to be a feeling pervading the Caf that we won't directly replace Scholes though, despite SAF saying he would. We'll clearly be buying a central midfield player this summer.

cina said:
The loss of Scholes and VDS was always going to peg us back a bit initially. I'm not saying they're not good signings but Jones is clearly one for the future and Cleverly will do very little to aid our very thin midfield.
(thanks for leaving out the VDS/De Gea part, shows we can agree on something ;) )

It's not a slate on SAF, they're good signings but the thing that was always going to make a big difference this Summer was the midfield. Nothing has been done yet, though I'm sure it will.

Seriously, "big improvement" is bollocks, even by your overly positive standards.
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Jones is one for the future? In the same way as Smalling was?

I'm not saying Cleverley will make the world of difference. I was merely positing that he'd more than adequately cover for the exit of Gibson.

What's not the be positive about? We're Manchester United fans. Christ, there's absolutely nothing to be miserable about.

cina said:
Erm no I don't, like I said, inevitable weakenings from last seasons squad have nullified those signings. In the SHORT TERM i.e. next season they will have feck all influence on proceedings. The good and bad pretty much equal each other.
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To say that our signings will have "feck all" influence next season is absurd. Young clearly will. De Gea is going to be our first choice goalkeeper. Of course they'll make an impact. Even Jones will get chances - again, see Smalling.

Ubik said:
Eh? The post said "we've strengthened considerably" - we've signed a good squad player in Young, a potentially excellent centre back and a very good replacement for one of the world's best in Van der Sar. We've added depth and hopefully managed to replace an excellent keeper, "strengthening considerably" still relies on a high quality central midfielder.

Not bashing the squad by any means, I'm very pleased with how it's coming together, just highlighted what I perceived to be a bit of hyperbole about our business so far.
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It's tiring to see Young labelled a "good squad player". As though there's no improvement in him. He's shown his abilities lately at International level and he's been one of the most creative players in the league since being at Villa. He's entering his peak and he's now got a grand stage to perform on.

De Gea, despite his age, is clearly a talented 'keeper. SAF says he's learned lessons from the replacing Schmeichel years and he's plumped for De Gea - the kid is clearly highly rated by our staff.

Snow said:
Yes it is but it hasn't improved. Also, Chelsea stepping up a little bit make that 9 points clear into nothing.
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What, and we'll stagnate or move backwards will we?

Same thing every year - United set to decline, everyone else set to improve.

Sharky7 said:
Strengthened?

By losing Scholes, Hargreaves, VDS

And bring in Jones, De Gea and Young?

No we really haven't.

As for "SAF doesn't know what he's doing", don't be such a cock, of course he does, and that's why I full faith that he'll IMPROVE his strongest eleven shortly.
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Hargreaves hasn't played in years, why include him?

There's a nostalgia attached to Scholes - the form he showed last season was not befitting of the player he had been. Scholes of last season is not a loss to us.
 
Sharky7 said:
You aint getting me, which of those players will improve our strongest 11???
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Exactly. We already had a great squad last year, now we have a ... great squad again. It's our first XI that was lacking, mainly the midfield, and those 3 players have not helped it. If anything it's been weakened because De Gea will likely not be as good as VDS was.

Young and Jones whilst being good signings and good players, are not better than any of the players we already have in those positions in our first XI.
 
Feed Me said:
Cina, what you on about mate?
SAF has made signings he feels will strengthen the squad. You lot seem to disagree with that.
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Although Jones and Young are great additions to our squad we have lost a lot of experience from the squad.. De Gea replaces VDS which is hardly an improvement. Our first eleven have not improved at all with the three signings so far.
 
cina said:
Exactly. We already had a great squad last year, now we have a ... great squad again. It's our first XI that was lacking, mainly the midfield, and those 3 players have not helped it. If anything it's been weakened because De Gea will likely not be as good as VDS was.

Young and Jones whilst being good signings and good players, are not better than any of the players we already have in those positions in our first XI.
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That great squad won us the title and got us to a Champions League final. I bet all our other rivals would have loved to have had our squad.

We were basically undone by the best side in the world, right at the end. Even with the fabled central midfielders we all year for, we probably would have still been beaten.
 
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