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Manchester United to bid £20m for Samir Nasri

Manchester United are getting ready to splash the cash again - this time on one of their main rival's best players.

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson appears to be convinced he can overcome Arsenal's resolve towards keeping Samir Nasri - and will attempt to capitalise on the French midfielder's contractual impasse with a speculative £20m offer.

As far as Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is concerned, Nasri is not for sale - and ostensibly his price is the same £40m that Arsenal would want for Cesc Fabregas - because the London club want him out of Ferguson's reach.

But United, who are believed to have already held initial discussions through intermediaries of Nasri, have yet to test how Arsenal will respond to a £20m offer for a player who is out of contract next summer and thus worth probably half that sum.

Read more: Manchester United to bid £20m for Samir Nasri - Premier League, Football - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk
 
I'd rather sign him next summer for free tbh. We have Giggs for AM, we have Park as an AM who can play either flank just like Nasri, and we have a few young lads who have a big season coming up too. Next summer Nasri would fit the bill better.

Would rather spend the dosh on a midfield general than give it to Arsenal.
 
Rowem said:
I'd rather sign him next summer for free tbh. We have Giggs for AM, we have Park as an AM who can play either flank just like Nasri, and we have a few young lads who have a big season coming up too. Next summer Nasri would fit the bill better.

Would rather spend the dosh on a midfield general than give it to Arsenal.
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Giggs is 37. Park is a winger. We need quality in CM, that's in my opinion the second most position (after GK) that needed strengthening.
 
devilish said:
Giggs is 37. Park is a winger. We need quality in CM, that's in my opinion the second most position (after GK) that needed strengthening.
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Nasri is as much a winger as Park.

Giggs is indeed 37, I congratulate you on fine observation Sherlock. This is one of the reasons why, as I alluded to in the very post which you first quoted, we could use replacing him next summer. For this summer we need to replace what we have lost - and that is a deep-lying playmaker (Scholes) and a defensive midfielder (Hargreaves).

Run along and play with your lego or something, the grown ups are talking now.
 
Giggs for most games is fine but was on another planet in the final. He couldn't get close to the ball. It can't be fair on Giggs to be shown up like that. We're decent for the premiership but if we want to fight for the champions league, we probably need something extra
 
Rowem said:
For this summer we need to replace what we have lost - and that is a deep-lying playmaker (Scholes) and a defensive midfielder (Hargreaves).
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I think that would be Carrick and Fletcher/jones. We need a quality CM that can open teams up like giggs and a player like modric/Nasri fits the bill.

Question is how badly does fergie want his man. Both will be expensive but someone made a good point about if he would join on a free when his contract is up...
 
MST3K said:
I think that would be Carrick and Fletcher/jones.

Question is how badly does fergie want his man. Both will be expensive but someone made a good point about if he would join on a free when his contract is up...
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We already had Carrick and Fletcher.

Jones is not a CM (certainly not ready to step into United's midfield)

Try again.
 
Rowem said:
Nasri is as much a winger as Park.

Giggs is indeed 37, I congratulate you on fine observation Sherlock. This is one of the reasons why, as I alluded to in the very post which you first quoted, we could use replacing him next summer. For this summer we need to replace what we have lost - and that is a deep-lying playmaker (Scholes) and a defensive midfielder (Hargreaves).

Run along and play with your lego or something, the grown ups are talking now.
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Giggs has been playing as that deep lying playmaker in the absence of Scholes the past season. Yes he has been the more offensive of the two central midfielders, but it's hardly an AM position you mentioned in your previous post. Rooney has been playing more of an AM position than Giggs.

We should start thinking of replacing Giggs now and not next summer. We can't keep relying on him even though he's around. And what makes you think a player like Nasri only plays as a winger or an AM? If you had watched him play for Marseille, he has played very well as a normal central midfield playmaker. He has even done this with Arsenal on a couple of occasions, and has shined in that position, dictating play and controlling things for them.

Who exactly would you recommend we sign for that 'Scholes-role'?
 
Rowem said:
I'd rather sign him next summer for free tbh. We have Giggs for AM, we have Park as an AM who can play either flank just like Nasri, and we have a few young lads who have a big season coming up too. Next summer Nasri would fit the bill better.

Would rather spend the dosh on a midfield general than give it to Arsenal.
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Signing him for free next summer isn't a realistic option. He'll either leave now or sign a new deal, Arsenal won't let it get to the stage where they lose him for no money, they're not daft. We either make a good bid now and overcome Wengers stance on selling to us or he goes somewhere else. Or gets more money from Arsenal obviously, which is the one I reckon will happen.
 
Freak said:
Giggs has been playing as that deep lying playmaker in the absence of Scholes the past season. Yes he has been the more offensive of the two central midfielders, but it's hardly an AM position you mentioned in your previous post. Rooney has been playing more of an AM position than Giggs.

We should start thinking of replacing Giggs now and not next summer. We can't keep relying on him even though he's around. And what makes you think a player like Nasri only plays as a winger or an AM? If you had watched him play for Marseille, he has played very well as a normal central midfield playmaker. He has even done this with Arsenal on a couple of occasions, and has shined in that position, dictating play and controlling things for them.

Who exactly would you recommend we sign for that 'Scholes-role'?
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Where did I say Nasri only plays as a winger or an AM? I said he's as much as a winger as Park, which was in response to...well, feck it, you can go and read the whole thread for yourself, I don't see why I should go back and point out the context of every point I make to every fecker who can't be arsed to read the thread properly before clicking reply. I will take your word on him playing well for Marseille in a deeper position but it doesn't change much. It's not the position he has shone in for Arsenal where he has improved considerably since joining.

I don't think Giggs has been playing as a deep lying playmaker at all. His best moments in midfield come from breaking into the final third and influencing attacks directly. We don't need to keep relying on him because we have several players who can play that role, but while he's here he will contribute significantly. I'd say a replacement for Scholes and Hargreaves are the

And you also have made no mention to my original point in this sequence. I would rather sign him for free than give money to Arsenal. Context, people. I'm not in the mood for a 2 page argument that goes round in circles and forks off into irrelevant issues, with an array of spastics who come in one after the other and don't read the thread and pick up from where the previously spastic left off, all because I dare to suggest a player who the muppet brigade want isn't necessarily my preferred target of choice.

Not that I'm calling anyone in particular a spastic. Apart from devilish.

p.s. I'm grumpy because I have a cold. But the premise of what I'm saying is valid. I think.
 
R_Nick said:
Signing him for free next summer isn't a realistic option. He'll either leave now or sign a new deal, Arsenal won't let it get to the stage where they lose him for no money, they're not daft. We either make a good bid now and overcome Wengers stance on selling to us or he goes somewhere else. Or gets more money from Arsenal obviously, which is the one I reckon will happen.
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We should tap him up so he runs his contract down and joins us afterwards :devil:
 
Fair enough on not wanting to give money to Arsenal even though I disagree. I don't care who we give money to as long as the player improves our team. We should look at our team first and not care about how the money affects the other team.

Just out of curiosity, who exactly do you recommend we sign?
 
To be honest I haven't watched enough European football for the past 2 years to make a real judgement on a lot of potential signings.

Of those we're being linked to heavily on here (Modric, Nasri, Sneijder), I would prefer Modric, as he is the most authentic CM of three. But to be honest I'm sure their is someone who I haven't really watched who fits the bill better.
 
Rowem said:
Nasri is as much a winger as Park.

Giggs is indeed 37, I congratulate you on fine observation Sherlock. This is one of the reasons why, as I alluded to in the very post which you first quoted, we could use replacing him next summer. For this summer we need to replace what we have lost - and that is a deep-lying playmaker (Scholes) and a defensive midfielder (Hargreaves).

Run along and play with your lego or something, the grown ups are talking now.
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Nasri can play comfortably both in CM and on the left flank. He's done that both with Arsenal and in France. At Arsenal he played as a winger because of Fabregas. Park was moved in CM to add steel to our midfield. He can do the job in center midfield but he's not a playmaker.

You may not have noticed but Giggs (the winger) had already been replaced. We now have 4 estabilished wingers (Park, Nani, Young, Valencia) + Cleverley and Obertan. Unless we sell a winger which I much doubt that we will do then I can't see us get another winger in for at least 2 seasons.

The deal is already complicated as it is despite there's a rumoured good offer on the table (20m). If you think that Arsenal will keep Nasri until the end of his contract to then give him to us on a silver platter then you really.....:lol:
 
Speculation:
Plenty of Arsenal speculation in the papers this morning and the Daily Star claims the club are ready to let Samir Nasri leave rather than agree to his wage demands, with Manchester United now poised to make a £20million bid following reports local rivals City have shown an interest in the French midfielder.

:D

We all know their transfer tactics. Lets go after everyone United is after.
 
kleberson_ said:
Speculation:
Plenty of Arsenal speculation in the papers this morning and the Daily Star claims the club are ready to let Samir Nasri leave rather than agree to his wage demands, with Manchester United now poised to make a £20million bid following reports local rivals City have shown an interest in the French midfielder.

:D

We all know their transfer tactics. Lets go after everyone United is after.
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At a time were excellent EPL tested playmakers can easily cost around 35m+ then Nasri is a bargain. I won't be surprised is Shitty are interested in him.
 
devilish said:
Nasri can play comfortably both in CM and on the left flank. He's done that both with Arsenal and in France. At Arsenal he played as a winger because of Fabregas. Park was moved in CM to add steel to our midfield. He can do the job in center midfield but he's not a playmaker.

You may not have noticed but Giggs (the winger) had already been replaced. We now have 4 estabilished wingers (Park, Nani, Young, Valencia) + Cleverley and Obertan. Unless we sell a winger which I much doubt that we will do then I can't see us get another winger in for at least 2 seasons.

The deal is already complicated as it is despite there's a rumoured good offer on the table (20m). If you think that Arsenal will keep Nasri until the end of his contract to then give him to us on a silver platter then you really.....:lol:
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1. So they can both play through the centre or on the wing.
2. I can't begin to fathom why you have the impression I want us to sign another winger.
3. They mightn't have a choice in the matter. If Nasri wants to run his contract down he will do.
 
Rowem said:
1. So they can both play through the centre or on the wing.
2. I can't begin to fathom why you have the impression I want us to sign another winger.
3. They mightn't have a choice in the matter. If Nasri wants to run his contract down he will do.
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1. There are players who can do the job and others who excel in it. Nasri will add quality in CM that none of our wingers/midfielders can do. Giggs may have done better then him if he was half a decade younger

2. "Giggs is indeed 37, I congratulate you on fine observation Sherlock. This is one of the reasons why, as I alluded to in the very post which you first quoted, we could use replacing him next summer". Or do you believe that after bringing in 2 CM "For this summer we need to replace what we have lost - and that is a deep-lying playmaker (Scholes) and a defensive midfielder (Hargreaves) we should also replace Giggs as CM?

3. If you believe the media Nasri wants to leave Arsenal because they refuse to give him his 100k+ a week. At that salary there will be many clubs interested in him and I doubt that he'll be such a cnut to turn them down and risk to end up rotting on the bench for an entire year. Not to forget also that as a free agent he can demand higher salaries which may be too much for us to pay.
 
So all the newspapers are reporting that we're indeed going to bid for Nasri, looks like either us or Nasri's agent has leaked something to the media.
 
Can you even read? Seriously, how fecking small is your brain? Blatantly I was saying we should be replacing Giggs the CM/AM next summer. It's so blatantly fecking obvious from the passage of the conversation that I actually pity you.

There's nothing to suggest he would rot on the bench for an entire year.

edit: @devilish obviously
 
KM said:
So all the newspapers are reporting that we're indeed going to bid for Nasri, looks like either us or Nasri's agent has leaked something to the media.
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How many years did Vieira have on his deal when Arsenal scuppered our bid? If we're seriously interested in Nasri then the fact that he has just one year to run surely puts the ball into our court.

Get a 20m bid in and get his head fully turned in a Northern direction! :D
 
Sharky7 said:
How many years did Vieira have on his deal when Arsenal scuppered our bid? If we're seriously interested in Nasri then the fact that he has just one year to run surely puts the ball into our court.

Get a 20m bid in and get his head fully turned in a Northern direction! :D
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If he has his heart set on leaving and will not change his mind Wenger will do everything in his power to sell him abroad for cut price. And I wouldnt blame him either.

They simply cannot sell to us.
 
Randall Flagg said:
If he has his heart set on leaving and will not change his mind Wenger will do everything in his power to sell him abroad for cut price. And I wouldnt blame him either.

They simply cannot sell to us.
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If he has his heart set on us there is nothing Wenger can do, I mean, will they risk him signing a pre-contract with us in January?

Losing him to United for 20m > Losing him to Unted for nothing

The bellends sold Cashley to the chavs, a local rival ffs.
 
I'd like to nuance all the "Nasri played really well as a CM for Marseille".He was an ok CM nothing more than that, he wasn't that special.It's when moved into a proper playmaker role that he played his best football
 
kouroux said:
I'd like to nuance all the "Nasri played really well as a CM for Marseille".He was an ok CM nothing more than that, he wasn't that special.It's when moved into a proper playmaker role that he played his best football
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He's a better footballer in general now though Kouroux, that is unquestionable.
 
kouroux said:
I'd like to nuance all the "Nasri played really well as a CM for Marseille".He was an ok CM nothing more than that, he wasn't that special.It's when moved into a proper playmaker role that he played his best football
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Nasri Playing in behind Rooney - Carrick Anderson in midfield and Nani and Valencia on the flanks

:drool:


Thats it my 1st muppet post
 
Randall Flagg said:
If he has his heart set on leaving and will not change his mind Wenger will do everything in his power to sell him abroad for cut price. And I wouldnt blame him either.

They simply cannot sell to us.
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Agreed. First of all they be weakening their own squad and strengthening their rivals for a reported fee that would only be enough to secure some 'potential' in todays market, as opposed to a direct quality replacement.

Secondly, it would have a huge mental affect on the rest of the Arsenal players. If one of your best players wants to leave and is sold to a title rival, you can only feel it's because your own club is not big enough to compete with them. It would put doubt in the minds of a lot of players.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Nasri Playing in behind Rooney - Carrick Anderson in midfield and Nani and Valencia on the flanks

:drool:


Thats it my 1st muppet post
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But is it really an improvement on:

Rooney - Hernandez

Nani - Anderson - Carrick - Valencia​

Or even an improvement on:

Rooney
Nani - Young - Valencia
Anderson - Carrick​

Sorry to jump all over your first muppet post, but I couldn't resist.
 
I love how people post line ups like that as if that's who will start every game.

Nasri would improve the squad, don't get too excited though, there's no chance Arsenal will sell to us.
 
Sharky7 said:
How many years did Vieira have on his deal when Arsenal scuppered our bid? If we're seriously interested in Nasri then the fact that he has just one year to run surely puts the ball into our court.

Get a 20m bid in and get his head fully turned in a Northern direction! :D
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I had no idea that we were ever interested in Vieira, so I don't know about that.

However all the today's newspapers(Telegraph, Times, Independent, Sun) have said that Fergie is confident in taking Nasri away from Arsenal, I definitively think that something is going on and we're going to make a bid of 20Mil.
 
To be fair 20m for someone in the last year of his contract is crazy money. I'm not too sure its something Arsenal can afford to ignore.
 
Rowem said:
Can you even read? Seriously, how fecking small is your brain? Blatantly I was saying we should be replacing Giggs the CM/AM next summer. It's so blatantly fecking obvious from the passage of the conversation that I actually pity you.

There's nothing to suggest he would rot on the bench for an entire year.

edit: @devilish obviously
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Look put your thoughts together, be sure about them and then discuss the issue. Its not really difficult believe me.
 
Randall Flagg said:
If he has his heart set on leaving and will not change his mind Wenger will do everything in his power to sell him abroad for cut price. And I wouldnt blame him either.

They simply cannot sell to us.
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If the player refuses they either sell him to us for the reported £20m or lose him for nothing next summer.
 
I'd love for us to sign him. I highly doubt they will. He's probably just angling for a lot more money in a new contract from Arsenal.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
If the player refuses they either sell him to us for the reported £20m or lose him for nothing next summer.
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I doubt he'd spend a year on the fringes of an Arsenal team in the hope of moving to us when if he was available cheaply, it's possible that some of the biggest clubs in Europe such as Real and Barcelona would come in for him.
 
Eyepopper said:
I love how people post line ups like that as if that's who will start every game.

Nasri would improve the squad.
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Yup, I really think we'll line up like that every game, and that's why I posted them. No space for Berbatov, Giggs or Park. No Welbeck, Owen or Cleverley either. And no chances for young lads like Petrucci or Morrison. Hell, if we sign Nasri, no space for Hernandez either.
 
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