Nasri To City - Done Deal!

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Damn'it, I'm starting to feel a small amount of hope...

Let's assume Nasri doesn't sign a new contract. Arsenal will probably have to sell him then. Who would Nasri want to play for who would want him?

United
Chelsea - Yes, if he wants to play for us, then he probably wouldn't object to Chelsea
City - Maybe

Milan - Probably
Inter - Probably

Real Madrid - don't see them needing him.
 
Can't see Inter needing him either, if they keep Sneijder.

Milan are tracking Ganso, he's almost certain to end up there. But yeah, they could use Nasri even in that case.
 
sincher said:
I don't really get that Red Dreams. I don't see it as that disrespectful not to sign a new contract if you have no intention of honouring it. Yes, it would be tough on Arsenal, but it's their fault for not competing for trophies. If one of our players did it, I'd see it as a bit stupid because there isn't an obvious step up unless you fancy getting into the Barca team, but at Arsenal, there can't be much argument.
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lets not forget, firstly he is a vital part of the team that did not win anything. Not all his fault of course. I agree that all top players want to win trophies. But if he sat down with the owners and the manager and made his case simply, they will see the sense of it and sell him to whomever he wants to go to.

The final reason he should do such a thing is, if he left the way you suggest, whats stopping him from doing that to teh club he joins?

I think of the Ronaldo situation. He could have let his contract expire. Fergie still has a good relationship with him and would welcome him back because he did not screw over United.
 
Top said:
Damn'it, I'm starting to feel a small amount of hope...

Let's assume Nasri doesn't sign a new contract. Arsenal will probably have to sell him then. Who would Nasri want to play for who would want him?

United
Chelsea - Yes, if he wants to play for us, then he probably wouldn't object to Chelsea
City - Maybe

Milan - Probably
Inter - Probably

Real Madrid - don't see them needing him.
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Assuming he wants to stay in England - which is possible - who would Arsenal consider the more direct rivals? Us? City? Or Chelsea?

Not sure there's an obvious answer to that one.
 
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Damn'it, I'm starting to feel a small amount of hope...

Let's assume Nasri doesn't sign a new contract. Arsenal will probably have to sell him then. Who would Nasri want to play for who would want him?

United
Chelsea - Yes, if he wants to play for us, then he probably wouldn't object to Chelsea
City - Maybe

Milan - Probably
Inter - Probably

Real Madrid - don't see them needing him.
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I don't see either of the Milan clubs as an option.

Sneijder playing his role at Inter.

Milan have a crap load of forward and AMs already, gonna be tough to fit them in as it is.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Assuming he wants to stay in England - which is possible - who would Arsenal consider the more direct rivals? Us? City? Or Chelsea?

Not sure there's an obvious answer to that one.
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They've sold to City (twice) and Chelsea in recent years.

Another upside of this deal if it somehow happened would be that the Fergie v Wenger feud would be back on.
 
peterstorey said:
We've sold crap like Adebayor and a fecked Toure to Man City. We won't be selling Nasri to anyone in the PL.
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But what if no one abroad is interested or interesting for Nasri? Which is likely.

Would you then rather keep an unhappy player for a year where he'll then leave for a PL rival anyway?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Assuming he wants to stay in England - which is possible - who would Arsenal consider the more direct rivals? Us? City? Or Chelsea?

Not sure there's an obvious answer to that one.
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I don't even think rivalry comes in to it really. I think it is more a matter of perception.

All 3 sides you mention are rivals - but only two of them are considered to have all the money in the world to spend if they wish. If Nasri was to go to either of them (for an 'undisclosed fee') Arsenal could claim, publicly or privately and leaked, that they were bullied into it by a club that could crush them with financially irresponsibility.

United are in mountains of debt, and have a wage bill and average wage similar to Arsenal. Our perceived ability to spend is quite similar (willingness is another matter).

With City/Chelsea, Arsenal could claim a money motivation. With United, it is a far more hollow argument if they try it - the reality would be more based on ambition and trophies - and that argument is something Arsenal can't allow to become so public - and Nasri to become the public face of it. Of course you can argue City/Chelsea would also be about ambition and trophies - and it would be a strong argument, but the money motivation (the more palatable reason for a player to leave) is a lot easier to argue with City and Chelsea. That is why I think Arsenal would prefer to sell to either of those, or anyone else, than United.
 
Red Dreams said:
with regards to the Heinze deal, there was a clause in the contract about moving to another English club I think. Not sure if this applies to Nasri. But in the end, this will be just business. We have done business in the past with Arsenal and will again in the future.

There is not that level of animosity between us and the gunners as there is with Liverpool.
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But it was not a technical reason for us. If Heinze wanted to go to Sunderland we would not have invoked the clause. It was a point of pride. We didnt want one of our players improving a rival.

Wengers statement that Arsenal will not sell to United is now similarly a point of pride.

I am not yet convinced united are even chasing Nasri. I think this is a game by his agent to get a better contract, or failing that to get Arsenal to sell him abroad on the cheap.

But I see no way that Arsenal will throw Wengers statement back in his face. I don't think Nasri is so desperate for United that they need to do so.
 
izzydiggler said:
A lot of 'ifs' but if we're interested and Nasri is determined to leave, I cannot imagine that Wenger would be willing to lose the £10 - £15 million and let him walk for nothing next season, regardless of the 'noises'. He's the most frugal man in sport!
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I can't see how we'd get him for less than what we've apparently paid for Young to be honest, he'd be markedly cheaper than the 35mill prices mooted for modric etc.

The thing is, I'd find it very odd if he is our main target, after all we must have been planning for a purchase in this position pretty much all year, we'd have known Sneijders probable wage demands and Spurs asking price when drawing up our list of potentials but I can't really envisage that we had knowledge he wasn't going to sign his contract when devising the shortlist. It'd be a very seize the day type transfer if we ended up getting him in.
 
peterstorey said:
We've sold crap like Adebayor and a fecked Toure to Man City. We won't be selling Nasri to anyone in the PL.
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Didn't really replace either properly though.

Any deal between the big clubs is a long shot.
the players do have power though and should use it more imo.
 
peterstorey said:
We've sold crap like Adebayor and a fecked Toure to Man City. We won't be selling Nasri to anyone in the PL.
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You maybe not have a say in it. If Nasri just tells them he is not signing a new contract he is a free agent next summer. That means he can sign a contract with United in January. May as well take a few million now or he might walk on a free.
 
charleysurf said:
You are sounding very scouser like there. If Arsenal dont want to sell him to us then they don't have to. They can sell him to a foreign club at a cheaper price if they want. Which is why I say there is exactly zero chance of Nasri at United this summer (if we are even interested).

We didn't exactly roll over when Heinze wanted to go to Liverpool.
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:confused: I'm merely telling the mithering twat to keep out of matters that don't concern him. What's it to him if we want Nasri and Nasri wants us. Bloody jilted voyeur
 
If Nasri refuses to sign a new contract, Arsenal will do their best to get clubs from the other top leagues interested. He'll be offered around to anyone, at a lesser price than what they'd demand from us.

The question would be - would any of those teams that take up the offer be attractive to Nasri himself? To leave Arsenal, he'd only be willing to look at the very best teams in the top leagues - Barca, Real, Inter, Milan and maybe Bayern. Would any of them be interested in him, and would he prefer to move to them (and thereby not extremely anger Arsenal fans) over forcing a move, either now or next season, to us? And then you have Chelsea and City who, as someone above mentioned, might not look quite so bad as them selling to us.
 
He's clearly not coming here you silly, silly people..

Now can we all get back to working out how to catch Barcelona in the promotional charity shirt sponsorship stakes...I'm thinking Oxfam? or perhaps a big Pudsey..
 
read he wants to stay in England. That really leaves only City or Chelsea as the alternative to us. He wont want to go to the Chelsea asylum. That leaves City. But he knows there is a lot better chance of the title with us.

A lot will depend on how badly he wants to join us. Wenger saying even before our supposed interest, that he wont sell to us, makes me guess Nasri must have mentioned it?
 
Nasri recently made it clear that he would be comfortable to join another English club – apart from Tottenham – when he said: “I’m not saying I will not play for another English club – except Spurs. When I play for one club, I can’t play for their biggest rivals.

“Money is not the most important thing. I am 23, what’s important is that I have a good team that can get better.”
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Read more: Express.co.uk - Football
 
Mitch Conor said:
I just don't believe it for one second, no way will Nasri be coming to United. Arsenal/Wenger won't allow it, and United would know that.

If there is interest from United/Nasri in the deal - United should be trying to get it done ASAP. Don't let it drag out for the summer, either get it done quickly or move on. I would hate for us to miss out on other targets over the summer cause we are waiting patiently for the issue to resolve itself on August 31st (like Berbatov)
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SAF very rarely lets transfer sagas drag on. Usually sneaks in and wraps everything up before any problems pop up, at least when it comes to international transfers. The media snap at any domestic transfer story immediately.

Mitch Conor said:
I don't see either of the Milan clubs as an option.

Sneijder playing his role at Inter.

Milan have a crap load of forward and AMs already, gonna be tough to fit them in as it is.
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Who do Milan have that would do better than Nasri in that role?
 
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onechop said:
On talksport this morning, his agent has held talks with city and chelsea and has ruled out a move to OT due to wage demands, his agent insist that he will remain in the prem league, oh well that just leaves Modric now.
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I doubt his agent will say that on talksport
And if its talksport speculating, then the chances of it being true are very slim.

Whatever it is, I never thought we'll sign him. Dont care where he goes

It'll be hilarious if someone pays him 150k a week tho
 
excellent player obviously but cant see how he would fit into our side. wants to play the rooney role and we need someone who can be effective from deeper.
 
friendlytramp said:
excellent player obviously but cant see how he would fit into our side. wants to play the rooney role and we need someone who can be effective from deeper.
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Rooney can always go back to playing as a striker. The reason he plays there is because he's the one who can effectively and supply Hernandez. If we have a Nasri/Sneijder then Rooney can go back up front and start scoring more again being supplied by a Nasri/Sneijder.
 
friendlytramp said:
excellent player obviously but cant see how he would fit into our side. wants to play the rooney role and we need someone who can be effective from deeper.
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My thoughts exactly.

Zarlak said:
Rooney can always go back to playing as a striker. The reason he plays there is because he's the one who can effectively and supply Hernandez. If we have a Nasri/Sneijder then Rooney can go back up front and start scoring more again being supplied by a Nasri/Sneijder.
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Why though? Would Nasri/Sneijder be a significant improvement over Rooney? Absolutely not, in my opinion.

Would Rooney be a significant improvement over Cheech? As an overall player, definitely. But in Chicharito's role in the system we've been playing? Highly doubtful.
 
Lets be honest, this isn't going to happen. I can't see SAF squeezing in a player who plays in a position we don't really need cover for. Not to mention Wenger would rather sell us his left testicle.

The only chance of making this go through would have been the asking price due to his contract situation, now that it has come out he is a greedy little shite wanting in excess of 140 thousand a week, this isn't going to happen.
 
Nasri can play the Park/Giggs role. He's obviously better Park, and Giggs is coming to the end of his career.
 
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