Not quite. And I don't think you used it properly.
tergiversate (v.) To use evasions or ambiguities; equivocate.
This is the most cromulent point to take away from this issue. I think Mr. Ferguson has had just about enough of Nani's capdabblery.
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tergiversate (v.) To use evasions or ambiguities; equivocate.
Show-off.
Actually the last time I saw Nani he was nothing short of appalling. Anyone here on the CAF would have done better.
I wouldn't have been surprised had I never seen Nani in a red shirt again. then he gave the ball away EVERY time, had half-hearted attempts to beat the defender, never tracked back, didn't look bothered - his confidence was shattered.
This was a step up from that. He looked like he might have a chance at trying to rebuild.
He can do that - but needs a run of games. Park doesn't deserve more games -not really - Park is not a United standard player any more.
Nani might be able to improve but only if he plays - SAF can even afford to 'overplay' him!
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I wouldn't have been surprised had I never seen Nani in a red shirt again. then he gave the ball away EVERY time, had half-hearted attempts to beat the defender, never tracked back, didn't look bothered - his confidence was shattered.
This was a step up from that. He looked like he might have a chance at trying to rebuild.
He can do that - but needs a run of games. Park doesn't deserve more games -not really - Park is not a United standard player any more.
Nani might be able to improve but only if he plays - SAF can even afford to 'overplay' him!
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That's a lie. I'm much worse than Nani.
His game against Wolfsburg 'his last' was not actually that bad and he had an assist next to his name.
Did alright in his last game didn't he ?
The treatment Nani gets on this board is fecking disgusting.
The treatment Nani gets on this board is fecking disgusting.
He may be an inconsistent, insanely infuriating and quite possibly a demonstration of the greatest mismatch between mental ability and physical attributes bar Micah Richards but when his confidence is high he can also be a game changer. The performance on Saturday was encouraging and posed the opposition an enigmatic problem all game long.
Given the form displayed by most of the other first team players thus far, the seemingly shot shy nature of the attack, the need to rest Giggs, only Nani can keep himself out or in of the squad right now.
I wish for him to do well but I also want to remain extremely cautious in my expectations of him.
Given the form displayed by most of the other first team players thus far, the seemingly shot shy nature of the attack, the need to rest Giggs, only Nani can keep himself out or in of the squad right now.
I wish for him to do well but I also want to remain extremely cautious in my expectations of him.
Yes to both points.
Nani will always struggle to make at United for the pure simple fact the fans don't like him.
I've been saying this for ages now and I fear a move away from OT might be the best thing to happen for Nani's sake.
There's a reason fans don't like him but ultimately he'll be judged on what he produces. Plenty didn't like Ronaldo. Didn't stop him being a great player and didn't stop anyone from saying so.
For Nani's sake, the Ronaldo comparisons need to stop. The fact that he is Portugese, came from the same club, is a two-footed winger, and strikes the ball in an unorthodox way is all that unites them. There's nothing about Nani's game that Ronaldo wasn't doing far better at roughlyy the same stage of his career at United. But Ronaldo was a great player. Though it's lookling more and more unlikely to be with us, Nani might be too one day, on his own merits. He just needs people to stop assuming that he's suddenly going to blossom into Ronaldo MkII.
On his way at the end of the Season, we might even recap half his original price, enough to buy the Glazers another mansion.
I don't think it's a case of fans 'not liking him', more being frustrated by his development and his criticism of Fergie earlier on in the season. Is he my favourite player? No, he's not. I like him, seems a nice enough guy off the pitch from what I've seen, but boy on the pitch he does know how to frustrate the hell out of you. Yes he had a decent game, considering it was his first in a while I don't know what more people were expecting, a Rooney-like debut perhaps? I don't know, some people expect too much from the lad, it can't be easy for him when all said and done, but he has had ample time to develop himself as a footballer and that's just not happened. Things which should have been ironed out in his frst season, or definitely his second, are still there for all to see, and it doesn't look as if they are ever going to be ironed out.
I've no doubt he'll go on to become a very good player in the future, but unfortunately I think it's going to be at a different club, for whatever reason, he just doesn't seem to have cut it here.
Saying that, there's still 5 months left of the season in which he can make a case for himself, I'd like nothing more than him to do that and for him to prove a lot of the fans, and seemingly Fergie, wrong.
I like him. He is a serious talent and has shown us what he;s capable of. No matter how shit he may play he will still create a goal or scoreable opportunitys for other players. Alot of times the pass may not come off but atleast he trys something different. Our team bar berbatov is lacking flair. He was good enough during his first season and he's bound to be better than he was then...he's just not getting a few games on the trot just like tevez last year.
In our opening 11 games of this season he started 8 of them.
That's more than enough time to stake a claim in our best XI. In fact, it was more than any other midfielder in our squad was given over the same period of time.
So yes, there is a similarity with Tevez last season. People are assuming he's had less opportunities than he's actually had.
Yeah but in our opening 11, no-one really stood out. We were obviously trying different ways to play without ronaldo in the team, nani just seem to have got the blame.
Against Burnley?
Not really. I've always fully backed Nani but as I said earlier in this thread he looks short on confidence, to say the least. He never runs full pelt with the ball, ever. He's quick, he has good control, why not?
Someone posted a video of all his contributions to the match, it seems like a promotional video but it really aint too flattering.
Well and he looked promising in his first starts for us as far as I can recall, that's also why he actually did start that amount of games, but in his last 2 or 3 in this run of games he sadly faded away a bit.
At full strength, would the boy even get on the bench? I still hope Nani fecks off before the window shuts. Unlikely, but I can hope. A one trick, one footed pony.
Say what you want but he is certainly not one footed ^^
He didn't do much wrong against Burnley though. First game in a while for him and provided some good moments and kept the ball well enough.
I do think people expect too much from some players.
Not comapring the two as players. Just stating it's possible for people to not like the person but still rate the player.
Nani will never be Ronaldo MK 2 facht, we need him for this season.. but we should be looking to get a better player than Nani to fill his left wing spot come the summer.
It's always somebody elses fault. Nani was poor by and large. That's his fault. Nobody's blaming him for United's struggling to adapt to life without Ronaldo. They're blaming him for his own abject performances and to then have the audacity to turn round and blame Alex Ferguson for it. I'd say people are being more patient with Nani than he has ever earned or deserved.
I actually think Nani played very well against Burnley. He and Valencia played like proper, orthodox wingers, and they were excellent - it's just a shame we didn't have a proper, orthodox striker to take advantage of their crosses.
But, though I disagree with your assumption that Nani played badly, I do agree with the highlighted part. He's got excellent close control and he's feckin' quick, so I don't know why he never just runs with the ball full pelt. He also doesn't run very far with it; he tends to get the ball, dribble ten meters or so and then pass it on. He won't attempt lightning dribbles down the oppositions byline.
Last world cup was the catalyst for Ronaldo's sudden meteroic rise. Hopefully, something similar will happen with respect to Nani after this world cup.
If he would still be with us that is
If he would still be with us that is
I'm not sure he is all that quick though. Which is why he rarely tries to beat his man for pace.
When was the last time you saw him leave a defender for dead in a foot-race? Cause I can think of a fair few occasions where he's got a yard head-start but ended up getting chased down and forced to check back on himself, or try and beat his man again.
I particularly remember the game against Wolves, earlier in the season, where he had the beating of their chunky FB but ended up having to beat him more than once each time.
I second this opinion.
Versus Hungary for Portugal, he left the defenders for dead pretty much every time he had the ball.
But I think we've had this discussion quite a few times before. He's obviously not as fast as Valencia, but he's definitely fast.
Very good half for Nani.
Keeping it simple yet effective and tracking back very well which has resulted in him winning back the ball quite a few times.
Promising.
Keeping it simple yet effective and tracking back very well which has resulted in him winning back the ball quite a few times.
Promising.
Aye, very happy about his first half today.
If SAF's done bedding in Valencia, then rotating Park-Giggs-Obertan on the left and Nani-Valencia on the right should be more than enough for the rest of the season.
Agree.
I just like having him in the team, especially as all our central midfielders arent really goal threats, it's good to have some fire power out wide.
I just like having him in the team, especially as all our central midfielders arent really goal threats, it's good to have some fire power out wide.
Played well. More of the same please.
Are we to make any conclusions about him being better suited to start on the right?
Are we to make any conclusions about him being better suited to start on the right?
Should have had a penalty as well.
What the heck has happened with Nani? 
He seems like a completely different player now. Not in terms of ability, but he actually tries to keep things simple and has obviously been working on his decision-making. More of that please!
He seems like a completely different player now. Not in terms of ability, but he actually tries to keep things simple and has obviously been working on his decision-making. More of that please!
Nah. Not for me. Went down too late.
No doubt about that for me, finally Ferguson has decided to put him on the right and voila, no more dilly dallying and getting early crosses in. Just need to beat his man more often to get the whole package from him now. A very effective player when he gets it right.
What the heck has happened with Nani?
He seems like a completely different player now. Not in terms of ability, but he actually tries to keep things simple and has obviously been working on his decision-making. More of that please!
It's called maturity. Something a lot of people on here don't give football players a chance to develop.
always looks capable of a bit of magic - what you're after in any winger.
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