That's not the whole story, but anyway, who is better out of Valencia ? Nani isn't important as I think LVG will consider them for different positions completely, Nani (Inside forward) and Valencia (Wide midfield/ Wing back). When we consider how many inside forward/winger players we have that can play the two outside positions in thte top line of a 4-3-3, it's only really Januzaj , Nani and Welbeck for me, flanking one of Rooney and /RVP/Hernandez
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That's not the whole story, but anyway, who is better out of Valencia ? Nani isn't important as I think LVG will consider them for different positions completely, Nani (Inside forward) and Valencia (Wide midfield/ Wing back). When we consider how many inside forward/winger players we have that can play the two outside positions in thte top line of a 4-3-3, it's only really Januzaj , Nani and Welbeck for me, flanking one of Rooney and /RVP/Hernandez
Despite what some think Nani is too good to be a squad player. Valencia does work hard and is pretty fast but he is the ultimate one trick pony. You know he is going to go down the line with pace and try and cross. He is not going to dribble past his defender or cut back and cross with his Left foot.
Nani has never been afforded anyway near the leeway others get when he has a bad game and even when he has a decent game like on Saturday most will say he was a waste of time.
I am a Red til I am dead but I like Nani and hope he is successful wherever he turns up but for his own sanity he has to leave us.
His two goals and general play against Bayern in 2011 will always be remembered by me along with some outstanding displays of dribbling.
Nani has never been afforded anyway near the leeway others get when he has a bad game and even when he has a decent game like on Saturday most will say he was a waste of time.
I am a Red til I am dead but I like Nani and hope he is successful wherever he turns up but for his own sanity he has to leave us.
His two goals and general play against Bayern in 2011 will always be remembered by me along with some outstanding displays of dribbling.
So what should i use? When Rooney wins a penalty and gets assists, then his assist should count, when unpopular players like Nani do so, then it shouldn't count, right?
The number of minutes Valencia plays cannot be relied on cos he played as a right back in some of those games. Surely, his ability to play as a fullback makes him a preferred choice over Nani not because he is more talented.
Statistics mean everything. The addition of 3 points for each win, a point for a draw, etc to determine a league winner = STATISTICS. Otherwise, we should just give Swansea or Arsenal the title now cos they play the sexiest football in the Northern Hemisphere.
Nani stepped in to shine & managed to make the PFA team - a feat Valencia never managed when he shined. There's no way Valencia played better than Nani in 11/12.
Nani made us win the all-important community shield in Wembley & scored goals against Arsenal, Chelsea, etc in the early fixtures of that particular season. Which of the goals Nani scored against City in Wembley can Valencia attempt to do?
Be honest when you answer that question....
Berba still scored more goals/assists than Macheda in 08/09. Berba's effort was grossly under-appreciated that season. I am about productivity not who runs like headless chicken on the pitch and appearing to be busy when they are doing nothing.
Nani has been the better winger & player since Valencia arrived. The statistics agree with me, their respective talents also agree with me. Nani can do a lot more to hurt the opposition than Valencia. Nani has scored more goals & more assists than Valencia since 09/10 season. Nani has scored more goals against quality opposition than Valencia in the same period as well.
If Nani leaves, it would be because he's not loved, not because it's performance-related. It's a shame we even have a mediocre winger like Valencia in our books. All he does is strike the ball against the shin of his marker and get a throw-in or a corner.
He's the least talented winger in Man Utd. Even Ashley Young posts better statistics than Valencia but that's another winger United fans extremely hate for no reason. If I were Van Gaal, I would pay Preston £10m to take Valencia from us. He's seen better days.
@Hannibal Oh well, this would be take long long way if I'm trying to against to the fan boy. Alright whatever you said my friend, Let's agree with you. Nani played better and more consistent than Valencia in all seasons even when he's injured and almost missed the whole season, we can still judge his performance.
Goodbye Nani. Don't think he'll be missed even with our shitty wingers. Way too inconsistent and prone to brain farts.
Such a shame he declined so much after that 2010/2011 season. But it's a step towards clearing the dead-weight in our squad.
One of the biggest let downs in recent years at united given his talent. Ability wise he had it in him to be one of the worlds top players.
Hope he does well in Sporting. Haven't seen any player of his generation bar Messi have such a natural ability to beat players with dribbling. Unfortunately the rest of his game never clicked for unknown reasons. Off the pitch reasons, still today he is our best dribbler by a mile and he hasn't had a run of games in years which is impressive and very telling of how big his issues in the other areas must be.
He was the best winger in the league for a year and a half. I'm not saying he has grabbed his chance when he has gotten it in the last few seasons but I can't help but think what might have been if he had been shown the same faith as Valencia was when he started week in, week out despite being rubbish for 18 months. SAF and Moyes share a lot of the blame for what has happened with Nani in recent years in my opinion, he could never win with them. One bad game and he was out for weeks.
Not surprised he's going but still can't help but feel the problem lies with us rather than Nani if we can't manage to fit in one of the five most gifted players in the squad, while continuing to give the limited Valencia and the mediocre Young chances.
Agree with this. Nani, like Kagawa and Mata, is one of those players who has the ability to be superb if the manager believes in him, plays him most of the time, but restrict him to a few starts, sub him even when he is performing ok, then you almost inevitably get what we have watched over the last 2 seasons. For 18 months he was up there with the best in the PL.
Good luck to him in sporting
Gave me some awesome memories, scored some thunderbolts,
so wish him all the best
Gave me some awesome memories, scored some thunderbolts,
so wish him all the best
It'll be a relief to just not have the heated Nani debates anymore to be honest, and to not have to hear a group of our fanbase be massive twats towards him 
finally a small piece of the deadwood has been cast off down the long, windy river towards Porto.
one small piece of a gigantic mish-mashed-maze of clotted driftwood, clotting the main functioning artery needed to produce a good team.
one small piece of a gigantic mish-mashed-maze of clotted driftwood, clotting the main functioning artery needed to produce a good team.
Its a shame that no other prem club took a gamble on him.
Lissabon.
Woops. ... I guess what I forgot to mention is that river will go throughout Portugal... just to cover all my bases here.
Who is in charge of promoting nowadays?
And excuses still being made simply because we have nobody else to fill the void and we cant count on a good replacement comming in.
Gutted. Still could do it, if only he was given a run of games. In my opinion.
Yeah, but in a 3-4-1-2 Young & Valencia are probably more useful as we have Rooney, RVP, Hernandez, Welbeck & Januzaj for the striker positions already.
LOL, oh you made a promotion joke! ... insinuating that i hadn't earned my way onto this message board by demonstrating a proper tact or perhaps necessary knowledge to be worthy of joining the likes of you? that's quite good... quite good, my friend!
both work harder and are not that injury-prone whcich can cause some serious bumps in form which Nani suffered a lot from. The both showed to be more adaptable so it is not a coincidence that Young is given chance as a wingback rather than Nani, Valencia already played there. An dI think both can be decent in that role until we reinforce our squad and get in good enough players to play with wingers in 4-3-3 which not likely to happen this year. Nani therefore has no place in squad and Hernandez is looking to to have same fate as both players are not versatille enough to adapt to altho temporry system we are going to play. Or rather than that he was just too inconsistent, moody, injury prone to maintain status of manchester united player. I liked him and defended him a lot tho... anyway if this is a sign of getting rid of some deadwood and bringing in new aquisitions I am glad he is going in that matter as well.
Nani is too good for that league. What a waste. Why not QPR?
Is this move a loan or permanent?
Is this move a loan or permanent?
Happy to see him go. He and we need fresh starts.
In all honesty, I would rather see Valencia go than Nani. Almost all defenders know how to handle Tony these days. His lack of ability with his left peg is glaring.
About time.
Hope he tears it up in Portugal and someone like Zenit comes in with a £20m-ish offer on the back of that season. I hope we're not silly enough to fall for the 'give him another shot at Utd' crap because he'll inevitably turn crap/get injured here and we have a tough task shifting him again.
Really surprised he's going to Sporting, he's still only 27 and he's too good for that league.
Dunno where it went wrong for him... Probably started with the headbutt, where he pretended he was the hurt one, plus the constant diving and play acting in first years made a part of our fans really dislike him. Just look in this thread, some feckers go absolutely crazy even when they hear his name...
Was there a player to split opinions so much as this guy? I can't think of one.
Every game at OT when he gets the ball half of the fans expect him to do something extraordinary with it, half are convinced he will feck it up and groan if he takes more than 2 seconds on the ball.
Well, good luck to him, hope he resurrects his career. At least now we finally get rid of the fecking Valencia vs Nani shit.
Dunno where it went wrong for him... Probably started with the headbutt, where he pretended he was the hurt one, plus the constant diving and play acting in first years made a part of our fans really dislike him. Just look in this thread, some feckers go absolutely crazy even when they hear his name...
Was there a player to split opinions so much as this guy? I can't think of one.
Every game at OT when he gets the ball half of the fans expect him to do something extraordinary with it, half are convinced he will feck it up and groan if he takes more than 2 seconds on the ball.
Well, good luck to him, hope he resurrects his career. At least now we finally get rid of the fecking Valencia vs Nani shit.
It's a loan, so if he does well United can sell him for a bigger fee than what his reputation would bring right now. It's a win for all 3 parties.
Nani is anything but deadwood, that's too kind to the likes of Ando. Nani's a terrific player who actually contributes if given enough games
Having gone back to Portugal on loan I'd be amazed if we can now ever get that sort of fee for him. We've made it clear we don't fancy him so he'll move on for £5m odd next summer, I'd guess.
Hasnt proved in the last 2 seasons that he's too good for that league.Really surprised he's going to Sporting, he's still only 27 and he's too good for that league.
Dunno where it went wrong for him... Probably started with the headbutt, where he pretended he was the hurt one, plus the constant diving and play acting in first years made a part of our fans really dislike him. Just look in this thread, some feckers go absolutely crazy even when they hear his name...
Was there a player to split opinions so much as this guy? I can't think of one.
Every game at OT when he gets the ball half of the fans expect him to do something extraordinary with it, half are convinced he will feck it up and groan if he takes more than 2 seconds on the ball.
Well, good luck to him, hope he resurrects his career. At least now we finally get rid of the fecking Valencia vs Nani shit.
Yeah I was being stupidly optimistic regarding the fee. Getting the last 3 years of his contract off our books would be a result in itself.
It'll be a relief to just not have the heated Nani debates anymore to be honest, and to not have to hear a group of our fanbase be massive twats towards him
This.
He's guaranteed a starting place at a club, which I think is what he needs. Our rotation policy has screwed over a lot of players over the years. Anyways, hopefully he gets to come back rejuvenated.
He just needs a run in a team where he's one of the main men to see if he's still got it.
Sporting will need him at his best so they'll give him all the opportunities he needs...hopefully...
Sporting will need him at his best so they'll give him all the opportunities he needs...hopefully...
Obviously, but it's not about wingers, all options wouldn't be good enough for the wing, apart from Januzaj. It's about wing-backs, and Nani won't play there, whereas Valencia could be useful. As a striker Nani would probably be 6th choice or something, so it does actually make sense to let him go. Whether a full transfer would've been the better option is another story. We don't know the details of the deal.
So what if he absolutely tears it up down there? Will LVG slot him back in?
Bebe did and he got sold. So no.
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