Nani | Contract & Transfer talk

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it's amazing how much a player's reputation improves simply by not being anywhere near the team.

You don't think scoring 12 goals, some of them quite amazing, and assisting a bunch more over the past season had anything to do with it?

let's bring back anderson while we're at it.

Anderson who couldn't get a game on loan at Fiorentina and has had a largely woeful time at Internacional since, scpring no goals, missing penalties, getting sent off or subbed off in the first half?

I don't see the comparison.
 
it's amazing how much a player's reputation improves simply by not being anywhere near the team.

let's bring back anderson while we're at it.
You're not seriously comparing what Nani achieved here to what Anderson achieved here, are you?

The only thing those two have in common is being signed at the same time.
 
Would Nani even suit the way LVG wants to play? I mean LVG has repeatedly said he needs players who play with intelligence and can adapt to what he requires of them, whereas I'd have thought Nani is a prime example of a player who lacks that sort of intelligence and instead plays on instinct. If Di Maria has struggled to adapt to LVG's demands then why would Nani be any different?

Besides, I can't imagine LVG would think too highly of Nani opting to move to another club for the year rather than staying to fight for his place.
 
No one has suggested he has become an out of this world player while away - it's simple recognition by those that don't dislike him that he has shown a lot of his old ability that made him an excellent player for us over period of time. Nani has always been a confidence player, when given a run of games and the backing of the manager, he has typically played well. He had a year and a bit of injury after his best spell with us and subsequently failed to get back in favor to get that run of games. While away he seems to have captured that confidence and very if given a chance could be a very good player for us.

Probably won't happen though and better for him than us because a player with his quality deserves to be playing. We could have used a player like him who can deliver great early balls from out wide, taken on players and link up in some of those quick passing areas when teams tend to sit back.
 
No one has suggested he has become an out of this world player while away - it's simple recognition by those that don't dislike him that he has shown a lot of his old ability that made him an excellent player for us over period of time. Nani has always been a confidence player, when given a run of games and the backing of the manager, he has typically played well. He had a year and a bit of injury after his best spell with us and subsequently failed to get back in favor to get that run of games. While away he seems to have captured that confidence and very if given a chance could be a very good player for us.
This could be argued for any player, I think since that Madrid game hes been in and out of the team but its clear SAF (final years) and Moyes didn't trust Nani enough to give him a run of games because he wouldn't always track back or be as productive as we need. Players like Nani are great when on song but when they're not its a different story.
 
Just saw a twitter with a 7.3M? for Nani. Is someone taking the p*ss.

There is no way that the likes of Cuadrado, Sanchez, Walcott, Depay, Sterling are 5 or 6 times better than Nani.

We will have really lost the plot if we keep letting our fringe players leave for peanuts.
 
Just saw a twitter with a 7.3M? for Nani. Is someone taking the p*ss.

There is no way that the likes of Cuadrado, Sanchez, Walcott, Depay, Sterling are 5 or 6 times better than Nani.

We will have really lost the plot if we keep letting our fringe players leave for peanuts.

I think you need to come to terms with this. The same quality player goes for about 4 times as much when on their way up than they do when leaving a big club as surplus to requirements.
 
Just saw a twitter with a 7.3M? for Nani. Is someone taking the p*ss.

There is no way that the likes of Cuadrado, Sanchez, Walcott, Depay, Sterling are 5 or 6 times better than Nani.

We will have really lost the plot if we keep letting our fringe players leave for peanuts.
All those are young or at the peak, Nani will turn 30 next year and is coming towards the end of his career. Young players like Depay and Sterling who might have 10 years at the top ahead of them are certainly worth a lot more then a injury prone 29 year old.
 
Exactly. Never mind "wow" I'd settle for an example of a good 90 minutes performance from him in the last few years. That ill-fated game against Madrid was probably his last good game for United (albeit < 90). That was over two years ago. A lifetime if we're talking about dips in form. Unless anyone has any more recent examples?

I think he only played about 10 games for United after that Madrid game to be fair, and they were probably all very sporadic appearances. He's had some good ones this year for Sporting.
 
He'll suit our 433 better than any wide man we've got at the club, Depay aside. He's a proper wing forward. Fast, athletic and a very good finisher, we'd be foolish not to give him another shot in a balanced formation.

Whether or not he wants to come back is another discussion.
His ability to play off of both feet at a high level makes him much more unpredictable than any other wide player we have currently. Although, I think he is better on the right because he combines his lethal right footed crosses with the ability to cut in and shoot off his left.

Would Nani even suit the way LVG wants to play? I mean LVG has repeatedly said he needs players who play with intelligence and can adapt to what he requires of them, whereas I'd have thought Nani is a prime example of a player who lacks that sort of intelligence and instead plays on instinct. If Di Maria has struggled to adapt to LVG's demands then why would Nani be any different?

Besides, I can't imagine LVG would think too highly of Nani opting to move to another club for the year rather than staying to fight for his place.

It depends on how well Nani responds to LVG's specific instructions. Young also struggled like Nani, but LVG giving him a more concise set of instructions has brought out the best from him this year. Nani could be one of those players who thrives on knowing exactly what his manager wants out of him in every situation.
 
I think the Nani ship has long sailed off into the distance. He had a good season here back in 2011 I think but lacks the mental fortitude to keep that up.

An 7.5/10 season in the Portuguese league doesn't really change my mind on that.
 
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I'm no expert but I reckon the fee will depend heavily on the buying club in Nani's case. He's on pretty big wages, relatively speaking.

If he wants to keep earning the same and play for, say, Sporting – then we have to help them out in that regard, by slashing the transfer fee. They can't possibly offer us twenty mill or thereabouts whilst also matching his current wages.

Plus, Maureen is mates with a certain agent. Plus, Falcao is a bigger, more marketable name than Nani – in spite of having had a rotten season.
 
I would rather continue to play Young or start Januzaj. People want him to come back because of a decent season in Portugal? Don't make me laugh. He is going to be shipped off and rightly so. He'll do well for a team like Inter, help them get back into the Champions league.
 
I would rather continue to play Young or start Januzaj. People want him to come back because of a decent season in Portugal? Don't make me laugh. He is going to be shipped off and rightly so. He'll do well for a team like Inter, help them get back into the Champions league.

And you want to keep playing Young because he had a decent season last year, and Januzaj had a nothing season and you want to play him. It's the old adage of class is permanent and form is temporary. Young was on form last season, do doubt about that, but Nani is a class player on a different level to Young.
 
And you want to keep playing Young because he had a decent season last year, and Januzaj had a nothing season and you want to play him. It's the old adage of class is permanent and form is temporary. Young was on form last season, do doubt about that, but Nani is a class player on a different level to Young.
Class is permanent? When was the last time Nani was class? I'd rather keep someone that had a pretty good season for us last season than someone having a good year in the Portuguese league and hasn't done it for us since 2011. Nani has had so many chances here and hasn't done it yet you still want him to come back? What has changed?


And yes I would rather start Januzaj because at least he has a chance of becoming good enough to be a regular for us while it will never happen for Nani here.
 
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I would rather continue to play Young or start Januzaj. People want him to come back because of a decent season in Portugal? Don't make me laugh. He is going to be shipped off and rightly so. He'll do well for a team like Inter, help them get back into the Champions league.

Young has been quite good will probably stay on as an insurance policy. Nani could come back since he's had a good year on loan. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if LvG had Nani at his disposal.
 
Surely it's only worth bringing him back and putting him in the squad if he's actually going to be starting? A squad role Nani is likely to be a useless Nani.
 
Surely it's only worth bringing him back and putting him in the squad if he's actually going to be starting? A squad role Nani is likely to be a useless Nani.

Agreed. Consistency is his nemesis and if he's not starting regularly it's only going to be an exercise in frustration.
 
3 years at least if not 4. We gave him a new 5 year deal at the start of the season with Moyes.

Hmm. Given that he's quite a difficult player to sell anyway (due to his wages) then we're probably better off doing our best to ship him out now while there's probably strong interest?

If we kept him for a season and it didn't work out then we'd be in a bit of an awkward situation, especially if Nani wasn't keen to walk away from a deal that big. Might have a hard time getting him off our wage book.
 
Surely it's only worth bringing him back and putting him in the squad if he's actually going to be starting? A squad role Nani is likely to be a useless Nani.

Yeah. I reckon that's pretty much the problem. Young, for instance, can do a fair job for us as a squad player – I doubt very much Nani can do that.

If you could actually use Nani as an impact sub or an option in certain matches (but not in others), being able to count on Good Nani showing up, he'd be an absolutely brilliant player to keep around. But that's a pipe dream at this point.
 
Saw earlier this morning espn's top 25 CL goals. One was Nani scoring from a tight situation in the box. I cant remember the opponent but it reminded me of a George Best goal.
 
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Saw earlier this morning espn's top 25 CL goals. One was Nani scoring from a tight situation in the box. I cant remember the opponent but it reminded me of a George Best goal.

Was it that ridiculous one for Sporting this year? I think it was against Maribor but I could be wrong.
 
According to reports the club as valued Nani at 12m Euros.
 
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Should get a buyer at that price hopefully.

If it's that low then it's probably because they are hoping it can help offset whatever his wage demands would be for the buying club. A very good club could probably afford him though for that price and his wages as well at the same time get a very good player on their hands. Would be good for him if one did come for him
 
According to reports the club as valued Nani at 12m Euros.

given the current exchange rate, thats pitifully low for a player that still has much to offer - I hope we get more but then we always seem to let players leave too cheaply
 
given the current exchange rate, thats pitifully low for a player that still has much to offer - I hope we get more but then we always seem to let players leave too cheaply

He's on huge wages though, 12m is decent for a player who's about to turn 29.
 
And by performances/stats based on the most recent season.

No, that's Memphis. Or did Nani also score 27 goals? I don't think Nani has a place here anymore, we've already currently got 5 options out wide.
 
I can't take you seriously, you basically brought Memphis to United. On what basis is Memphis better than Nani?

Not my problem, I'm just a PSV fan who's followed Memphis for years. I only stated that Nani didn't have better performances/stats than our wingers. I think Di Maria/Mata might also have better numbers but I'm too lazy to check. I just can't see Nani staying, we've got Memphis, Young, Mata, Di Maria and Januzaj currently as options out wide. I can't see any of them leaving and a 6th winger for 2 positions would just be madness.

Memphis still has potential to become the next superstar, Nani doesn't. Scoring 12 times at Sporting at his peak means we won't see much progression from him anymore.
 
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