Would be like a breath of fresh air at the way our current attacker's are playing.
Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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Looking at our actual style of play he should get a place in the first 11.
Depressing reading this thread - we all know he's not coming back / getting in the team.
Three managers in a row have ignored him, I think it must be written into their contracts or something.
Three managers in a row have ignored him, I think it must be written into their contracts or something.
I wouldn't say it's impossible. 4-3-3 is the preferred formation for LvG but he obviously didn't feel comfortable using it starting off this season as he felt 532 and the diamond were better for getting results early on. Now we seem to be finding our stride there and it is clearly our formation going forward.
Maybe he felt keeping Nani was pointless if we weren't going to be playing 433 this season, which it certainly would have been. But maybe with 443 next season there might be a place for him.
I could be clutching at straws though, you'd imagine the club will spend big on wingers this summer and not see a place for him, but we will see.
I'll not be too pleased if we signed Depay for 30m or something equally ridiculous like that and sell Nani for 5m.
I fear you are. All your logic makes sense, but it just don't seem to work that way when it comes to Nani or Rafael. Just seems like fait accompli for both of them.
Whether he stays or goes, we're in a good position. There are a number of clubs that would benefit from an in form Nani, who at 28, still has a few good years of top football left in him, especially if he plays for a manager/system that play to his strengths. We should get at least 10-12m for him.
He's probably better of at a new club to have a fresh start.
If he goes, I reckon Monaco would be a good destination. They have a bit of money and could take on his wages and Moutinho and Ricky Carvalho are already there.
I would rather keep Valencia as a right back, and bring Nani back into the fold as a winger.
Having Young/Di Maria/Januzaj/Nani/Depay as your wing options is more than decent enough for a 4-3-3 IMO.
Having Young/Di Maria/Januzaj/Nani/Depay as your wing options is more than decent enough for a 4-3-3 IMO.
I think we'd have got more last summer with a year longer on his contract, so not such a good position
They arent investing and those players will want to be leaving rather than bringing in more players with high wages
I think Valencia is a more likely destination, as Peter Lim is investing heavily and has already bought half of the portuguese league. Nani will have been right in his eyeline this season
Our fans are just too fickle. All it would take is one bad game and the fans would be back to booing him again. I would love to see him playing for Utd again but I don't think it would be in his best interest unless he is of strong character.
I think the resurgence of Young may damage Nani's chances of returning. I am sure we will want to buy a new winger in the summer, and so unless we see a "shock" departure (ADM or Januzaj) then I dont think there will be space for Nani, Young, Januzaj, ADM plus a new winger who will presumably be first choice.
I am a Nani fan as you can probably tell by name and I actually think he would work extremely well as one of the wingers in a 4-3-3, which would suit him more than playing a traditional 4-4-2 winger as he cut inside more, taking on players and shooting as well as wipping in crosses like a normal winger. But I do think his time is probably up here now. Young is in some decent form, we have Di Maria now, Januzaj, Valencia so its hard to have space for another winger especially if we are also looking to sign another one.
Would love to see him back here next season as he has that bit of magic that can unlock teams in tough games but I cant see it happening now.
Would love to see him back here next season as he has that bit of magic that can unlock teams in tough games but I cant see it happening now.
He's no different to Di Maria in my opinion. Both capable of amazing moments but both capable of being very average. I'd have him back and give him another chance rather than spending money that could be better spent elsewhere .
Always liked him but if we're not going to play him regularly & in his best position then I don't see any point in bringing him back. The best season he had for us was 2010/11 when he was playing every week at right wing in the 4-4-2. Young is probably a better option if we're going to be rotating the players & changing systems a lot, which I presume we will.
Pretty much this. Earlier in the thread I saw a lot of people saying "we keep Young/Valencia but let Nani go", but I was always of the opinion that Nani's competition was RVP/Rooney/Falcao. Basically if we played any formation with 2 forwards, they'd be no room for Nani. With a 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 diamond you'd have Young/Valencia/Shaw/Rafael out wide with more central player's in midfield (and he wouldn't displace Di Maria in the free role).
In a 4-5-1 or a 4-2-3-1 it's a different story, but I don't think Van Gaal envisaged both RVP and Falcao would look so poor. He clearly felt that all 3 of them (if you include Rooney), or at least 2 of them would be too good to leave out and therefore having Nani was superfluous. The fact that he made the Rojo deal easier to complete was probably just the final push to let him go. How little Januzaj was used earlier in the season should be testament to this fact.
If I'm honest I look at the wingers we're being linked to and they look miles behind Nani in terms of development.
I want him back but am resigned that he may move on. Van Gaal looks to want a new round of players and as such, we are going to have to sell and loan a few to make space.
I agree, and as long as it is no indictment on his quality and ability to succeed if he came back, I have no problems with Van Gaal's decision either way.
Can we please put an end to this bullshit? A myth that seems to be mainly repeated by people who don't even go to games, so have no idea exactly how much support Nani does or doesn't get from the match-going fans.
He was not ever booed after "one bad game" and that won't ever happen again. He's generally been supported as much as any other United player. One one occasion, he got very mild abuse from a small number of fans for walking off the pitch when substituted in a game where we were behind. Before and after that moment he will have played dozens of bad games and never once got booed just because he didn't play well. This idea that everyone will be on his case from day one, should he return, is absolute nonsense.
I think he could still do a good job for us. Even that goal he had disallowed in pre season with Portugal showed his quality. So it's not like he's played his way into form. He's had two injury hit seasons but now is getting games under his belt again. He's not someone we have to convince of anything. He's gone out and shown he's good enough to play most weeks.
He's a Manchester United player and Sporting have helped us and him get some rhythm back. That's great! He will come back a renewed player and not only that. He'll come into a formation that suits him cause in LVG's early teams he'd probably have played as a striker. He certainly would't have been in his best position. Even then at the start, how would he get games?
But now LVG has seen the lack of pace in the team. Young has done well from out wide but i'm struggling to think of anyone else. Shaw? No. Rafael? No. Di Maria? A mixed bag. Can't wait to see Nani back in the team. Up until Injurys struck he got into double figures for goals and probably assists too. He's got eight goals for Sporting and ? assists....he'll come back and cross fingers it works out for him.
He's a Manchester United player and Sporting have helped us and him get some rhythm back. That's great! He will come back a renewed player and not only that. He'll come into a formation that suits him cause in LVG's early teams he'd probably have played as a striker. He certainly would't have been in his best position. Even then at the start, how would he get games?
But now LVG has seen the lack of pace in the team. Young has done well from out wide but i'm struggling to think of anyone else. Shaw? No. Rafael? No. Di Maria? A mixed bag. Can't wait to see Nani back in the team. Up until Injurys struck he got into double figures for goals and probably assists too. He's got eight goals for Sporting and ? assists....he'll come back and cross fingers it works out for him.
It would be completely ridiculous. He has done well in Portugal, if we were scouting for wingers and he wasnt ours already surely he'd be on our radar. I dont think he needs to leave for a fresh start, we have a new manager and a new system, he can get a clean slate with us. Obviously it would be foolish to rule out the scenario you envisaged but Im not ruling out him staying because it just makes sense. There is plenty more transfer business to be done, this can save us a few quid.
Interesting point and I agree. I can already envision the transfer forum threads about this ridiculously good winger tearing up the Portuguese league....
It had to happen one day.
You make it sound like he doesn't have a pattern of inconsistent and wasteful play. Yes, moments of sheer class and brilliance, but a lot of just don't see it balancing out as good enough.
I'll give you this: for as tired of him as I got, I believe he may have something to offer the team in the right formation given the drop off in creativity.
I'd give him another shot if he showed it in training. More eratic, individual and foolish play, then it would clearly be time to cut bait.
Nani and Di Maria flanking Rooney could be very interesting. We're too reliant on Di Maria picking out a pass, not saying Nani hasn't been frustrating but he can deliver a final ball. His assist record is good and he has directly set up Rooney a lot of times.
Ashley Young has been good recently but for all his work he doesn't take enough care with a final ball hence his poor assist number. Januzaj has the same issue regarding assists.
Would love to see Nani and Di Maria on the flanks tried at least.
Ashley Young has been good recently but for all his work he doesn't take enough care with a final ball hence his poor assist number. Januzaj has the same issue regarding assists.
Would love to see Nani and Di Maria on the flanks tried at least.
And we'd all be creaming ourselves watching his Youtube videos
Would actually be as someone said before a bit of a breath of fresh air getting Nani in the team.
Maybe if we can bring Nani back next season and send Januzaj on loan.
Maybe if we can bring Nani back next season and send Januzaj on loan.
Another good performance and another goal (pen) which made a difficult game turn easy with a 4-1 win
Do you think this loan has reinvigorated his confidence where if he came back, we might see a bit off the Nani of old ?
Do Sporting have the means to buy him do you think?
Personally don't think he'll come back to United, sadly.
Good to hear!
Depends Raoul. If you bring him back and put him on the bench, you will probably see old Nani. If he´s given a run of games i think he can replicate his good form at United as well. But i think United will invest heavilly again (specially if you make it to the Champions League) and he would probably do better to move to Valência or Mónaco and play for managers who know him well and trust him (Nuno and Leonardo Jardim).
No chance mate. Like i said our wage cap is 1,2 million euros. No way we can afford him. We thank United for the chance of having him but we can´t afford him. With his form, he also deserves another chance in a top league. He´s too good for the portuguese leagueCheers. I reckon AvB would take him at Zenit as well.
I'd take Nani back in a heart beat.
He's far more likely to provide an assist or goal than Young, Januzaj or Valencia.
He's far more likely to provide an assist or goal than Young, Januzaj or Valencia.
My only concern with Nani is that i don't get the sense that individualists would fare well in Van Gaal's system. Case in point, Di Maria this year. If Nani came back, he would have to switch his thought process from improvisational trickery to making decisions that benefit the welfare of the team, which I'm not convinced he is capable of.
I think LVG will give Nani some license if he constantly produces at the top level like his old self. He did the same with Roben. And LVG said that he likes very talented specialists on the wing in a 4-3-3.
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