Name the three positions we need to cover ASAP

January
1)LWB
2) ST
3) LAM

Summer
4) LCM
5) LCB
6) RAM


Dalot, Mazroui, Antony and amad are good enough until summer as wingbacks for mebut we need a LWB.

Not enough goalscorers with or without service

LAM is always played by fitting someone in rather than someone fitting correctly to the system.

Summer transfers

LCB - We need serious competition at LCB with someone who can put martinez on the bench when not on form.

LCM - Personally, i love watching Bruno as a midfielder more than an AM but he also needs competition to drop him and cover for him whilst Mainoo can cover for Ugarte. Casemiro and Eriksen will be gone by summer

RAM - Rashford was playing this role for us and would allow Amad to rotate between RAM & RWB.

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1. LWB for sure. Dalot hasn't been as bad as people make out (other than a month or two earlier in the season where he was really struggling), but he doesn't provide enough in attacking areas for a wingback. Either in his positioning or his end product. That lack of width is hamstringing our entire system. That's true on both sides, which leads me to...

2. Either a RWB or a #10, depending on which position Amad is not playing in. If Amorim wants to play Amad as RWB, we desperately need a #10. If he wants to play Amad as a #10 then we desperately need a RWB (although I'd like to see Antony given a chance here first, and if he does well then this position can drop down the priority list).

3. This is a tough one as there's quite a few spots, but I'm going to say striker. While I do think Hojlund has potential to develop into a good striker, and can even see potential in Zirkzee (albeit looks very unlikely to reach it in England at least), neither are ready right now. A good striker who can both hold up the ball and has good attacking movement around the box would make a huge difference to this team.
 
I wonder what the plan is with Bruno and his position. I highly doubt the club will sell him and I get the feeling he’s one of thee first names in Amorim’s 11. But he’s been shuffled around the 10 and CM positions and has shown obvious deficiencies in both

If Amorim sees him as a 10 then getting a CM goes high up on the list
 
I think we need at least ready made superstars for the following positions (we need to keep in mind that we cannot spend as mentioned by the manager because of FFP so we need some good free transfer players):

1- Rightback. We need an attacking rightback who can attack and create assists. We know Trent is out of contract this summer so we can attempt to get him on a free transfer.

2- Centreback. We need a centerback to play alongside Martinez. Rumours are that Virgil Van Dijk is not happy with the contract situation at Liverpool so we might get a chance to nick him on a free transfer.

3- Attacking player who can score and assist. Salah being out of contract and most likely leaving liverpool, he could be an option for us.

Let me know what you guys think.
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:
I wonder what the plan is with Bruno and his position. I highly doubt the club will sell him and I get the feeling he’s one of thee first names in Amorim’s 11. But he’s been shuffled around the 10 and CM positions and has shown obvious deficiencies in both

If Amorim sees him as a 10 then getting a CM goes high up on the list
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I suspect if we had the quality of squad where he could be dropped if he didn't follow instructions (eg cut out the Hollywood balls) he'd suddenly find a new sense of discipline.
 
We desperately need pace and physicality in the LCB position, the CF position, and in CM. We're getting overrun and outfought in games. Amorim admitted the thinking behind his strange team selection vs Newcastle was more height at set-pieces...but we saw how that turned out.

I know the wing backs are an issue, but I think Amad and Antony might have to do...or experiment with Garnacho
 
wolvored said:
I know the narrative from Romano and others is we aint spending in January and I know Amorim told Neville the same.
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This is exactly what's gonna happen so this thread does not make any sense. FFP, PSR, any serious signing would breach these, not to mention the huge debt we're carrying.
 
Left wingback a two top quality central midfielders and a fast centerback, left footed if possible, that is good on the ball an can dribble.

I have always held the opinion that making the midfield and defense should be the highest priority in any rebuild, once the quality is there you can have a look at you attacking players and decide the return you are getting isn't good enough.
 
Attacking Left wingback because we don’t have wingback.
Top Striker because Hojlund is being bullied easily by defenders.
Double pivot midfielder because Casemiro and Eriksen are cooked already.
 
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World class central midfielder. Other positions are useless without this.
We are buying strikers for 10 years and then looks surprised when we are not able to create chances for them.
 
LWB
CAM (left sided)
ST/RWB

Someone who can actually beat someone 1v1 going down the left or actually put a cross in, would be a massive help.
 
henrysquire said:
Crazy how Mainoo has dropped off. He's only young but it's worrying. Would be a perfect CM.
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You don’t think he looked some what like the player he was last season against Newcastle when he came on ? Thought he was very good to be honest.

We need a LWB that obvious and preferably left footed so we can get some early balls in and go on the outside more.

A good close control AM that can put a shift in , although I think Mainoo could play here.

An all action CM with good physical attributes because when Ugarte is out we look so much worse.

The tricky part is who fits in and is attainable. We would be looking for some players who would not initially wow the fans. I saw someone mention Abdoulaye Doucore from Everton, he would certainly help in the short run but even getting him in Jan would be difficult.

Thinking about it , I don’t see anyone significant coming in this window.
 
Dorgu, Stiller, and Cunha in the short term.

The lack of LWB has killed us. Then need a CM who can needle through line breaking passes. Upfront we need attacking threat - either a new AM or striker.

After this, we probably need another 3 players to become a top 4 side. Left CB, striker and a RWB. This will cost us around €300m. We can sell Garnacho (60), Rashford (30), Zirkzee (40), Antony (20), Dalot (35), Sancho (sold for 25). Additionally, getting rid of Casemiro, Eriksen, Lindelof, Malacia, Shaw should hopefully release some more funds.
 
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Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
January
1)LWB
2) ST
3) LAM

Summer
4) LCM
5) LCB
6) RAM


Dalot, Mazroui, Antony and amad are good enough until summer as wingbacks for mebut we need a LWB.

Not enough goalscorers with or without service

LAM is always played by fitting someone in rather than someone fitting correctly to the system.

Summer transfers

LCB - We need serious competition at LCB with someone who can put martinez on the bench when not on form.

LCM - Personally, i love watching Bruno as a midfielder more than an AM but he also needs competition to drop him and cover for him whilst Mainoo can cover for Ugarte. Casemiro and Eriksen will be gone by summer

RAM - Rashford was playing this role for us and would allow Amad to rotate between RAM & RWB.

* please add a gk
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Good post.
 
Realistically we can only generate sale funds through Rashford and Garnacho that would give us a decent headroom as they are homegrowns.

We are able to take 2 players in on loan. Realistically what level of players is going to be available in January on loan?

Loans out? Without supplementing salaries not sure who we can really offload - possibly Zirkzee, Casemiro would jump ship now if he could?

Erikson will just see out to the end of the season, no need for him to rush anything.

What we are going to get for Anthony makes that deal unlikely.

Therefore, Rashie and Garnacho…..
 
take your pick

creativity the major issue and in this system we should probably be playing Diallo at RWB and bringing a LWB in

similarly maybe an athletic/strong running CM - Ericksen and Casemiro can't play in there anymore - think Mainoo is better suited as one of the 10s also

a striker - Hojlund our only option at number 9 is insufficient clearly
 
Shaw's Shank Redemption said:
January
1)LWB
2) ST
3) LAM

Summer
4) LCM
5) LCB
6) RAM


Dalot, Mazroui, Antony and amad are good enough until summer as wingbacks for mebut we need a LWB.

Not enough goalscorers with or without service

LAM is always played by fitting someone in rather than someone fitting correctly to the system.

Summer transfers

LCB - We need serious competition at LCB with someone who can put martinez on the bench when not on form.

LCM - Personally, i love watching Bruno as a midfielder more than an AM but he also needs competition to drop him and cover for him whilst Mainoo can cover for Ugarte. Casemiro and Eriksen will be gone by summer

RAM - Rashford was playing this role for us and would allow Amad to rotate between RAM & RWB.

* please add a gk
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Tincanalley said:
Good post.
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It surprised me how weak we are on the left hand side of the pitch when analysing our squad.

We arguably need a LCB, a LWB, a LCM & an LAM as soon as possible.

Our right hand side is not so bad and we have some depth in those areas -

* we have decent quality RCB's in Yoro, De Ligt and Maguire but on the left we only have Martinez.
* LWB we literally have no one who is left footed and provide width or a cross.
* LAM - Amad's break out season alongside other outcomes like Rashford leaving has pretty much made Amad the first name on the team sheet but on the left AM position we have rotated Bruno, Garnacho, Mount, Zirkzee & Rashford which shows how much we need an LAM really to nail that spot.

*LCM - Ugarte has a good passing ability but his passing tend to be more plays across to the opposite side of the pitch and because of this you are more likely to see Ugarte played as the RCM than the LCM. Bruno is the most technical & creative player we have in midfield which allows him to both play forward passes aswell as spread passes across to both sides of the pitch.

I dont think its a coincidence that Casemiro & Eriksen were placed at RCM & LCM respectively (aswell as Mainoo at LCM ) - and its why the LCM we target must provide both creativity and the ability to be tenacious in the tackle - like a creative energetic box to box player rather than just a deep lying playmaker. This is why Bruno for me has looked better at LCM than at LAM because he provides both creativity and yet non stop work rate at the same time.

Also, this is personally why i think Mainoo is struggling as an LCM especially when playing next to Ugarte. People seem to think that his creativity is better than his ability to defend but i believe it to be the other way around. Mainoo is actually better at defending than he is at passing because his passes are very simple short passes that keeps the ball rolling. If we are going to use Mainoo, he needs to be used on the right CM as the more defensive player whilst someone at LCM provides the creativity and energy to make up for some of Mainoo's weaknesses.
 
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We need more than 3 clearly, but the most urgent ones are RWB, LWB and striker.

In addition we need another LCB, a CDM and one or two 10s.

This is a really flawed squad, but for the system to click we need proper attacking wingbacks, we don't have anyone that can do that job besides maybe Amad. Also having Hojlund and Zirkzee as strikers is really poor. Zirkzee just doesn't have the attributes to make it, the aggression, the speed nor the instinct to be a proper 9 in this league while Hojlund has the physical attributes but lacks the basics, no ball sticks with him, he seems to wrestle the whole match with the CBs without actually giving them any trouble.

I haven't been this pessimistic before but truly I don't see how we can turn this around in the short nor medium term. It's going to take a lot of time to rebuild this squad with proper players and I don't have much faith in our scouting department, we get rid of deadwood just to bring even worse players. Instead of improving we've been regressing each season. Hard times to be a United supporter.
 
Above all else imo is a lwb. Changes the whole attack if we get one that knows the position. Then a left sided 10 and a cm

Get rid of
Cas
Rash
Ant
 
People talking about "world class players" to fit into positions.

Why does anyone think a world class player would see United as an attractive prospect? No European football, a club that has failed to implement any form of team rebuild for the past decade and more false dawns than anyone can recall.

The only reason I can think they'd sign is for crazy money to hold the club to ransom to make sure if the plan fails (again), at least they've got a massive bank account!
 
Striker
LWB

Any more than that in the current finacial plight is unrealistic. We may need to sign loan players if we cant sell in January.
 
Strikers , GK , And Another CM likes of McTominay oh sold him likes of Greenwood who scores goals, and a GK who uses his hands left him go as well.. the plan is working.
 
astracrazy said:
Wingbacks need to be top imo. They seem to be the main thing we are missing for Amorim's system in terms of players we just haven't got (creating a 5221 instead of 3421). Striker second, because creating chances hasn't been our problem - scoring them has. Centre mid upgrades can wait for the summer.
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That is completely contradictory.

The team desperately needs someone who can score consistently, whether that’s a 9 or a 10. LWB is obviously a massive problem also.
 
Striker, left back and a midfielder. But buy them thinking for the club philosophy and future not just for Amorim. We have to be careful not to fall in the same trap we fell with ETH - buy only for the manager.
Buying just for one system and if the system doesnt work we make it hard for the next manager and so on.
Players that can work in different formations and style of play and also suited for Amorim's style.
 
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