Muppet Watch 2013 Edition

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Can you send the link to the story about what the English can learn from the Germans? Thanks!
 
Sir Alex Ferguson has hinted that he may make a big-name signing again during the close season if the right player becomes available.

United rocked the football world with the capture of Robin van Persie from Arsenal last August and the manager has stressed that he will add to his squad despite the fact that his team have been crowned champions. The Reds are constantly being linked with a host of names from all across the planet but the groundwork has already been made in the hunt for fresh talent over the course of the campaign.

When asked which position he is looking to strengthen, the boss replied: “Not necessarily midfield. I think with top players it doesn’t matter what position they play in. I think if I get a top player in, it adds to the team and it improves it. Last season, we had Chicharito, Danny Welbeck and Wayne Rooney but still went for van Persie. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. We won the league because we had a strong squad in terms of numbers and I think we should add to it."

In some previous years, Sir Alex stressed there has been no great value in the transfer market when looking to make additions but he feels the situation has now changed.

”Well, I think the value I was talking about then was maybe some young, developing players were overvalued and there wasn’t the right quality,” he clarified. “But maybe there’s a wind change in the fact that we may go for a top player. That’s possible. We’ve got a nucleus of young players but we may spend something, you know.”
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No more value talk. Go big or go home! :drool:
 
The funny thing is that even if Fergie did go full throttle and buy Bale or Ronaldo but then didn't buy a CM I am not sure it would be the muppet wet dream summer around here. :lol:
 
Not buying a new midfielder. Giving Scholes a new 2yr contract.
 
I think Fergie wants to build a top team, with a young core to lay down a successful team that is ready to win for whoever takes over. If he can bring in some young players, as he has done and then add 2 or 3 world class players on top of that then there might be a real push for a CL while leaving behind a team that should be able to continue to win once he has gone.
 
Was having this debate on another forum, but seeing the form of all our wingers and assuming Nani is leaving which is looking likely if there was a choice between a Winger and Midfielder who would you go for ?
 
Midfielder.

Worst comes to worst we can deviate from our standard 4-4-2 and play a more fluid system but a CM is essential in my view.
 
Cevno said:
Was having this debate on another forum, but seeing the form of all our wingers and assuming Nani is leaving which is looking likely if there was a choice between a Winger and Midfielder who would you go for ?
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As things stand now: Winger.

Valencia is out of form and may never return again. If he'd only been mediocre then there wouldn't be a reason to panic, but the fact is that he's been utter crap. Has there ever been a player who's gone from hero to zero this quickly, and then returned to former glory? Young is good, but only a squad player. Giggs is 80 years old. Zaha is totally unproven at top level.

I still think that Rooney can become an excellent CM next to Carrick. There's also Cleverley, who's still developing. Giggs and Jones can step in and do a decent shift.

Obviously I'd prefer it if we signed a CM as well, but if I had to choose right now, then I'd choose a winger.
 
Cevno said:
Was having this debate on another forum, but seeing the form of all our wingers and assuming Nani is leaving which is looking likely if there was a choice between a Winger and Midfielder who would you go for ?
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That's like asking a man with no arms or legs to choose which he gets back, his arms or his legs. I imagine he'd be in desperate need of both..
 
A return to our 4-6-0 with the addition of Bale or Ronnie would be mint.

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Kagawa-Rooney-Ronaldo
 
If Rooney is off to PSG we could do worse than get Verratti as part o the deal and top up the cash to get Bale:

---------------RVP
Bale------Kagawa-----Nani
-----Verratti-----Carrick
Evra---Vidic-----Rio---Rafael
--------------DDG

I'd be more than happy with that, don't see the need for Lewandowski (although if Rooney is gone it makes more sense but that would be insane money being spent).
 
antohan said:
If Rooney is off to PSG we could do worse than get Verratti as part o the deal and top up the cash to get Bale:

---------------RVP
Bale------Kagawa-----Nani
-----Verratti-----Carrick
Evra---Vidic-----Rio---Rafael
--------------DDG

I'd be more than happy with that, don't see the need for Lewandowski (although if Rooney is gone it makes more sense but that would be insane money being spent).
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Except when was the last time and how often has this cash + player deals been conducted? Its not as easy or as simple as some people think. Its not FIFA or FM.
 
antohan said:
If Rooney is off to PSG we could do worse than get Verratti as part o the deal and top up the cash to get Bale:

---------------RVP
Bale------Kagawa-----Nani
-----Verratti-----Carrick
Evra---Vidic-----Rio---Rafael
--------------DDG

I'd be more than happy with that, don't see the need for Lewandowski (although if Rooney is gone it makes more sense but that would be insane money being spent).
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I would take that to be honest, and I think we'd be a better team for it. I think Bale could replace Rooney's goals, and Shinji will ensure the creativity doesn't suffer. He will give less defensive cover than Rooney, but then we would be more solid with Verratti in there anyway.
 
Keenst said:
It's kind of sad that there are so few British or Irish players that I would like us to sign. Bale and Zaha aside, I can't think of many we should go for.
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Um, perhaps because we've got quite a few? Phil Jones, Smalling and Zaha are three of the biggest British talents out there and we've signed them all in the last few years. Along with and Cleverley and Welbeck we're stocked with British talent...
 
RDCR07 said:
Except when was the last time and how often has this cash + player deals been conducted? Its not as easy or as simple as some people think. Its not FIFA or FM.
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I know, it's not common but you rarely find swaps that suit both sides and usually it's more a case of one player being forcibly shipped out and having none of it.

They have a player we evidently could do with and would probably have us sorted in midfield for a long time. Not sure PSG would value that as highly as we would, and I don't see why Verratti wouldn't fancy a shot at United. There's also uncertainty over whether Ancelotti will still be there, which for a young player must be a major consideration. Definitely worth trying.

Rozay said:
I would take that to be honest, and I think we'd be a better team for it. I think Bale could replace Rooney's goals, and Shinji will ensure the creativity doesn't suffer. He will give less defensive cover than Rooney, but then we would be more solid with Verratti in there anyway.
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It's the only scenario where I'm fine with Rooney leaving: the midfield getting sorted and Shinji in his preferred role.
 
Devil may care said:
The funny thing is that even if Fergie did go full throttle and buy Bale or Ronaldo but then didn't buy a CM I am not sure it would be the muppet wet dream summer around here. :lol:
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Are you kidding? I'd have to leave the caf if we signed Ronaldo back. The ******** would unbearable.
 
I have a question, say we hav a budget of, say, 60 Million.....given the choice what would you prefer:

Bale/Ronaldo (50m) & Cabaye ( or other realistic cheapish midfielder)

OR

Di Maria/Sanchez/Rodriguez & Gundogan (or other 25-35m midfielder)

Well?
 
starman said:
I have a question, say we hav a budget of, say, 60 Million.....given the choice what would you prefer:

Bale/Ronaldo (50m) & Cabaye ( or other realistic cheapish midfielder)

OR

Di Maria/Sanchez/Rodriguez & Gundogan (or other 25-35m midfielder)

Well?
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1st. Out of that whole list only one world class player and potentially world class player and they all sit in the first option.
 
Lots of Twitter murmurings of a big story about to break...
 
Fergie's retirement will have big knock on effects for the club's share price. The only way to limit that would be a big signal of intent from whomever steps in. Say what you want about them, but the Glazers aren't stupid. They understand the business of transfers.
 
But which big players are going to jump to sign for Moyes? (Assuming he's the replacement). Yes, it's still United, but playing for a legend vs a relative unknown abroad is a big difference for European players.
 
Sir Matt said:
But which big players are going to jump to sign for Moyes? (Assuming he's the replacement). Yes, it's still United, but playing for a legend vs a relative unknown abroad is a big difference for European players.
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Do you think Vilanova would have had problems tempting players to Barcelona after Guardiola left? The club is the biggest pull, not the personnel.
 
I'm sure Vidal was swayed to go to Juventus because of Conte. Lets be real a good manager helps alot but like above the Club is one of the biggest things when it comes to players.
 
I'm convinced we're going to make one big signing to help ease the transition.
 
Any hope of a big transfer is off if Moyes becomes manager, any true top talent who we'd be competing for will wait and see how a guy with no qualifications for a top post does before joining.

Bilbo said:
Do you think Vilanova would have had problems tempting players to Barcelona after Guardiola left? The club is the biggest pull, not the personnel.
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Who has Vilanova signed?
 
Devil may care said:
Any hope of a big transfer is off if Moyes becomes manager, any true top talent who we'd be competing for will wait and see how a guy with no qualifications for a top post does before joining.



Who has Vilanova signed?
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I think you will find the answer to that this Summer - staggered if one of them isn't hummels.
 
Do we reckon Moyes will be a big spender or will he go quietly to start with? It's pretty much acknowledged that we need a top class midfielder, wonder if Moyes has anyone in mind.
 
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