The David Johnson guy on twitter just said a few players have told him its Moyes... Not that it really matters at this stage.
This is the same guy who said Fergie won't leave, it's stated the obvious now.
The David Johnson guy on twitter just said a few players have told him its Moyes... Not that it really matters at this stage.
Probably happy to be winning.
That's not the point though. Ferguson leaving was a chance for the club to go a new direction, modernise our game, bring in a forward thinking manager with fresh ideas, someone dynamic. Moyes is none of that. It's just a safe, let's not rock the boat too much appointment.
That's the same attitude that would have hounded Fergie out of United back in the 80s. He was hardly Gods gift to football back then.
The hipsters can feck off and follow Mourihno to Chelsea for all I care. Good riddance.
Who the feck are you? I've been a United fan since before Fergie came here. I'm not some Johnny come Lately hoping for the latest pretty young thing. Though it would be nice. I'd have just liked to have seen us replace the greatest manager ever with someone more inspiring and adventurous than David Moyes.
Again, what have hipsters got to do with it? I'm a man in my 30's, calling me a Hipster would be a first, I reckon.
Who the feck are you? I've been a United fan since before Fergie came here. I'm not some Johnny come Lately hoping for the latest pretty young thing. Though it would be nice. I'd have just liked to have seen us replace the greatest manager ever with someone more inspiring and adventurous than David Moyes.
Again, what have hipsters got to do with it? I'm a man in my 30's, calling me a Hipster would be a first, I reckon.
Don't know if these quotes have already been posted, but...
Manchester United chief executive David Gill, speaking to MUTV: "We have to look forward now and I think any manager coming in will inherit a great squad and great staff around him. It is a dream job. I won't speculate on the announcement but I think we will move relatively quickly.
"In Sir Matt Busby and Sir Alex we got in managers who got involved in all aspects of the club. That degree of loyalty is crucial to the success of Manchester United. He (the next manager) needs the required football experience in terms of domestic and European requirements, so it is a small pool."
I know Moyes is seemingly nailed on to get the job, but he simply does not have that European experience described by Gill.
Perhaps it makes more sense to make a clean break from the past, making the new job as different as possible from the one Sir Alex held. With a new chief executive, why not bring in a director of football who can work on a longer-term vision, coupled with a manager who handles the first team and the day-to-day responsibilities on the pitch?
It's not just a question of the director of football/head coach model being better (in my opinion, in most cases), it's about taking pressure off the replacement. Sir Alex was all-powerful at Old Trafford but that grip was built over more than a quarter century of success, allowing him to delegate tasks and responsibilities. Installing a new boss, giving him Sir Alex's power from day one and expecting him to figure everything out while also fielding a winning team is a huge ask.
I wish someone would call me a Hipster.
David Gill said:"...it is a small pool."
No chance of that Gok Wan
Think this would make sense
from Gabriel Marcotti's column
As Moyes is familiar with the English game he could potentially challenge domestically but that leaves us lacking experience in Europe. Whereas a choice of manager who would bring "something dynamic" might have a tougher break in period domestically which could also potentially leave us out of European competition.
I'm completely torn to be honest and can make an argument either way.
I'm also wondering whether he has the knowledge of the European market that the other potential replacements would have, particularly in terms of the type of player top teams would be looking rather than those a midtable team have to target.I wonder if Moyes has known about this for a while, so will have his own transfer targets in mind, and who he wants to keep/sell...or whether he's going to have to start from scratch?
No chance of that Gok Wan
I'm so Down right now. Think that we can loose Sir Alex Ferguson and gain Moyes in matter of days. I have actually started drinking and will probably cry to some sad 90's song in a few hours.
Probably happy to be winning.
That's not the point though. Ferguson leaving was a chance for the club to go a new direction, modernise our game, bring in a forward thinking manager with fresh ideas, someone dynamic. Moyes is none of that. It's just a safe, let's not rock the boat too much appointment.
I believe with the integral structure of the club and the state in which Fergie's leaving it, that United being left out of Europe is simply something I cannot imagine.
Sure, winning the league's another thing, but I think unless it's an outright retard that'll be put in charge there's no way United would be out of the top 3 let alone top 4 or 5.
And I for one think success in Europe is undervalued on here compared to domestic football. I think the priority should be the Premier League however I wouldn't want an underachieving/unsuccessfull/unexperienced manager in Europe, and while the domestic title might not be guaranteed I've 0 doubt in United's ability to remain in European contention, European success however is far from a given, you need a great manager for that and I don't think United should settle for anything less than the best.
What are Evertonians making of this news?
Think this would make sense
from Gabriel Marcotti's column
100% agreed. Can we really expect Moyes improve on what Fergie did this season? Does he have the new ideas required to improve on the base Fergie has built? No on both counts.
People keep saying he's cut from the same cloth as Fergie, but what's the point in getting a sub-par version of Fergie?
At least we'll be spared the Court of King José, with a fawning press in attendance, and an arch demi-god smiling indulgently while taking all the plaudits for himself. [/RAWKese]
But seriously, I wasn't looking forward to Mourinho throwing everyone in the cosmos besides himself under the bus when/if things go wrong. As Real Madrid has found, it's not worth selling a club's soul and reputation for a couple of years' success. United should not be a footnote & a CV entry inserted into The José Mourinho Story.
David Gill has spoken
"Successor needs to have the requisite experience in term of domestic and European football"