Where he should have pulled it back to Mata?
Moyes So Far!
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No when he should have lifted it over Howard who was practically lay in front of him.
I'm not worried about this season anymore. I'm convinced the board will sack Moyes as soon as the league is over
I think that there was this Kagawa volley from outside of the box as well.
I remember 3. Rooney, Kagawa and Smalling. None of those attempts were threatening/needed good saves mind.
Selection.
I think I was pretty clear on that
Just as, even a daft poster will understand the point being discussed from time to time, and the proverbial blind hen will find that grain. Sometimes not.
If you think he deserves any sort of credit last night, good luck mate.
He crucify jones, bolting out like a coward, looks lost, gutless to even drop a non functional rooney, no instruction from sideline, etc etc.
He is under performing and facing the very real possibility of orchestrating the great United collapse should he continue for the duration of his contract. I don't think what he is doing is very nice.
Especially if they met with Louis van Gaal and his plans include considerably less financing.
They are.
But the point I was trying to make was that I think it was obviously a bad reception however Moyes says he doesn't know if it was good or bad because he was so focused on the game. I personally thought it was quite obviously bad, surprised at the comment.
wow....it really has got bad hasn't it....!!
Did you see the volley? It looked like he hit it out of pure anger lol
See, I can agree with almost all of that and not think it's incongruous to also say 'well at least...'.
Thoughtless, scattergun criticism doesn't make a very enjoyable read.
sorry, we're just frustrated beyond anything, and I'm not a matchgoers, so ... i guess this is about what I can do ;(
Be prepared to be thoroughly disappointed then. He will be here in August with that gollum grin during the first presser of the season.
"We tried our best to improve the ageing squad. It's obviously still not good enough and these are mostly players that shouldn't play for Manchester United but I'll try to make do with them and do as well as possible under these circumstances. No one could win titles with them as they are not good enough but I will try to aspire to finish within top 6."
This would be funny if it weren't horribly true.
The press then turn to the new Manchester United captain, Leon Osman.
Yup, sad times.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ject-display-against-former-club-Everton.html
Don't know if it's been posted yet, this bit in particular grabbed me
With Moyes disciplining Welbeck, Ashley Young and Tom Cleverley for a night out 10 days prior to this game – prescribing extra training for the three of them – it is little wonder that a group of internationals and title winners have lost patience with a man who is set to guide United to seventh position, their lowest finish since 1990.
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When asked after this defeat whether the board recognise his insistence that things will get better on his watch, Moyes shrugged his shoulders and smiled, but it was a nervous, uncomfortable smile.
Don't know if it's been posted yet, this bit in particular grabbed me
With Moyes disciplining Welbeck, Ashley Young and Tom Cleverley for a night out 10 days prior to this game – prescribing extra training for the three of them – it is little wonder that a group of internationals and title winners have lost patience with a man who is set to guide United to seventh position, their lowest finish since 1990.
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When asked after this defeat whether the board recognise his insistence that things will get better on his watch, Moyes shrugged his shoulders and smiled, but it was a nervous, uncomfortable smile.
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In my opinion the only that is saving him right now is some kind of 'end of season, out of the top 4' clause. He is a dead man walking at this stage.
I think what's saving him and what will save him for a considerable amount of time in the future is Ferguson's speech before Swansea game.
After yesterday, aren't we mathematically out of the reckoning as well? We can get another 12 points max which will take us to 69. Arsenal are already sitting on 70 in 4th spot. So if the Glazers have such a clause and want to trigger it, nothing is stopping them now.
Sad eh,
He doesn't deserve to punish any of them, infact if there's one guy that needs punishment it's him
When I saw that I was amazed. They are young lads, 10 days before their next game, so what. He obviously wasn't young once. OK give them a warning about people with camera phones etc, but to actually punish them. He obviously has his favourites.
I think Sir Alex's speech has lived it's course now. We, the fans, have supported him as far as we could. The writing is clearly on the wall, and I would be amazed if he is our manager at the beginning of next season. The inept performance, the post-match comments and demeanour suggested to me that he knows it as well.
Don't think there is any point in sacking him with 4 games left. He would leave with mutual consent at the end of the season.
That is how I see it.
I would love to believe it but I don't. Unfortunately I fully expect him to still be in charge at the beginning of next season and a part of me reckons that if such performance repeats, he will somehow excuse himself and still get another one.
Last game of the season, Moyes does his speech on the pitch and announces he's leaving and our job now is to support our new manager. The fans would give him a good send off then.
Could be. I doubt it will be mutual consent btw. Why would he let go of his big fat alimony check after being driven out by the bad husband?
Let's hope that doesn't happen. It is sad state of affairs that we'll have to sack Sir Alex's successor only a year after his retirement. There is nothing worse than uncertainty. Though I can no longer see him continuing in the job. The team on the park should have put a more solid performance irrespective of the result. The performance has been a constant theme against any half decent team this season. I could understand the earlier failings but this one has to be the final nail in the coffin.
What's the point in NOT sacking him now? As people point out, we've got nothing to play for, the team is currently at its lowest ebb in terms of confidence and belief and Moyes is suffering. Put him and us out of our misery by sacking him and I'm sure the team would start playing with freedom.
Could be. I doubt it will be mutual consent btw. Why would he let go of his big fat alimony check after being driven out by the bad husband?
I don't know anything about the contract, however I would be surprised if it was a straight 6 year contract without any riders. I am guessing it will some kind of a small pay-off.
He doesn't seem to be able to motivate them and it's very worrying because it means either he will go or he will have to replace the majority of the current squad to get anywhere near the best out of the team and even then it'll be sort of uncertainty whether he will. We could give him £300m including departing fees and end up with a squad of similar ability that won't compete either.
You are right. We are too afraid to lose to any of these teams, which is the biggest problem at the moment. It is Moyes job to correct it and he has failed, again and again. The Bayern games was a false dawn I guess, the players are no longer playing for him.
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Even though I want him gone, I don't hate Moyes. It surprises me how many people here genuinely sound as if they hate his guts.
He's lead us to a shit season, and he's totally out of his depth at United - but I'd go as far as saying that he's tried his best for us. You can tell he's done all HE can possibly can. Difficult to say that and I'm sure it's a subjective subject but I think he has. Not as if he's purposely lead us to this position.
He's lead us to a shit season, and he's totally out of his depth at United - but I'd go as far as saying that he's tried his best for us. You can tell he's done all HE can possibly can. Difficult to say that and I'm sure it's a subjective subject but I think he has. Not as if he's purposely lead us to this position.
He's reached the limit of his abilities, and can't understand why his hard work isn't paying off. However, hard work is no substitute for talent...
So I doubt he's smiling out of arrogance; more likely he's exasperated, bewildered & somewhat resigned.
Indeed, if you put a chimp infront of a typewriter and asked it to write shakespeare and it failed.. would you belittle the chimp?.. no, Moyes is doing the best he can, sadly the abilities needed to succeed at this level are a little out of his reach.
As Peggy Bundy said about Al: "If you give a gun to a monkey and the monkey shoots someone, you don't blame the monkey..."
The annoying thing is, we're NOT rebuilding. We haven't really started yet. Just added a couple of players, three if you include Adnan. Rebuilding is what Fergie did after a couple of years at United. Moyes just took the same team, added to it, and prompty made it far worse.
Rebuilding my arse.
You can understand the performances in the Bayern games. For some of the players it was their last chance in competition with our club, some even in the shop window and with its huge profile globally they didn't want to be embarrassed like some had predicted. It shows we are still good enough to be in it, even though we don't deserve to cos of this poor season. Also the tactics were perfect for Moyes, it's all he could ever do with our team.
Does anybody here work at United?
We should print all 853 pages (and counting) out, and slip them under an MS Pain picture saying Norwich: Set plays.
I know it will have less pages than what Steve Round did in his little book, but maybe if he gets through it quick enough, there may be a few tactics he could employ that we have suggested, as they will probably work. and at the end of the match, he could look at Moyes and say....I think we are getting sacked mate
We should print all 853 pages (and counting) out, and slip them under an MS Pain picture saying Norwich: Set plays.
I know it will have less pages than what Steve Round did in his little book, but maybe if he gets through it quick enough, there may be a few tactics he could employ that we have suggested, as they will probably work. and at the end of the match, he could look at Moyes and say....I think we are getting sacked mate
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