Spurs were never silly enough to hire David Moyes and they have Tim Sherwood in charge now.
Moyes So Far!
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Spurs were never silly enough to hire David Moyes and they have Tim Sherwood in charge now.
I dont think the grey trainers with all black apparel is working for him, he needs to invest in some black trainers or go for a suit next match
Who also beat Moyes head-to-head, as depressing as that sounds.
Imagine that - a club finally realizes a manager is inept and fires him, replacing him with a nothing caretaker, and immediately results turn around. While another club continues on with an inept manager and gets worse.
At least they know he's clueless and are rectifying that in the summer.
We've sacked better managers than David Moyes.
Yeah. This Spurs team has actually got worse than last year (much worse) and they are ahead of us in the table. Still some fans cling to the delusion that Moyes will end up a success.
Like when Chelsea fired Mourinho and replaced him with Grant who led them to a CL final they would've won but for bad luck.
Yes this! There is a lot of revisionism on here about The United Way TM
SAF was an exception, and most importantly he had winning pedigree when he arrived at this club
He moved us up by 8 places in the first year, up to 2nd the next, rebuilt the team and the entire youth setup and that was the reason results were dropping in the next 2 years. We stuck with him because there was progress - both on and off the pitch
If SAF had taken league champions and dropped them down by 6 places he would have been sacked, simple as that
There is a tendency on here to justify sticking with Moyes simply because it worked out with SAF. Illogical and too simplistic really
Mourinho knew exactly what he was doing when he sold us Mata. He got £37m for a player who wasn't any use to him, and to a team that won't be competing against his team for the foreseeable future. He'll be 26 soon, another year of Moyes 27. We'll probably need a few years to get us out of this shit after that, so he'll be close to 29 when we'll be competing against Chelsea again.
I can't be the only one refreshing the "New Posts" page in the hope that a certain thread will appear:
"Moyes Finally Sacked!"
"Moyes Finally Sacked!"
Sacking Moyes would get rid of 97% of the problem, leaving the new manager to fix the other 3%.
moyes has undone what took 26 years to build in 9 months.
f**k him, the f**king useless, defeatist, spineless c**t. every time i see his awful, smug f**king grid i imagine he's just seen my right foot seconds before it rips his face inside out.
a shambles of an appointment from start to it's inevitable finish.
f**k him, the f**king useless, defeatist, spineless c**t. every time i see his awful, smug f**king grid i imagine he's just seen my right foot seconds before it rips his face inside out.
a shambles of an appointment from start to it's inevitable finish.
Was he not fined too recently? Read something in the matchday thread
If the board were to sack him id be surprised as I feel there have been worse results/perfomances that have taken place. So if he was going to be sacked I suspect (no proof) that it surely wouldve happened already.
As for your last point...
Best way to explain
When I see a Rabbit in the headlights I don't go Vroom.
I don't see a manager struggling anymore. I see a man struggling full stop. Thats why I think for everyones sake he needs to be cut loose
By the clubs decision makers you mean? trying to artificially re-create Sir Alex.
I was never in the sack moyes camp, but where are we heading? We couldn't break down sides till December, got Mata in jan.. Thought after him settling down we would play better, it's almost may now and we still play the same way.. I don't see what has changed from the beginning of the season..
There have been a few matches we played reasonably well and i thought we turned the corner,but a match against a good team comes up and I realize we haven't turned a corner.. Its almost been a whole season and we just haven't improved.. Surely he must have improved atleast some aspects of our play..
There have been a few matches we played reasonably well and i thought we turned the corner,but a match against a good team comes up and I realize we haven't turned a corner.. Its almost been a whole season and we just haven't improved.. Surely he must have improved atleast some aspects of our play..
Well if you bring in a proper manager who knows what hes doing and up for the task, those other problems will be solved.
Ironically I was indifferent about Moyes when he joined, thinking that aslong as we kept the backroom staff a yes man in Moyes wouldn't be that bad to begin with. The only other apparent option was Jose and as good a manager he is, he shown the bad side this weekend and thats the side that the board didn't like in him. Moyes has dealt his own fate I think by shipping out all the backroom staff and then messing the transfer window up, before buying a cherry in Mata when we needed a cake to put that cherry on instead. I could forgive and look forward to next season if we looked like we had turned the corner by now, but we don't look like we have afterall.
We need to replace the experience lost by Rio, Vidic, Evra and Giggs.
We need to replace the players that aren't good enough.
We need a board who can actually get transfer deals sorted quickly.
I do wonder why this wasn't the approach we took. Was it simply because no manager of Martinez's calibre would be willing to play understudy? The club felt it would put the new manager under Sir Alex's shadow? Right from the off this new manager business seems to have been handles incredibly poorly. You'd like to think Sir Alex's retirement has been prepared for lord knows the club have had enough time to do so, but it just seems a shambles since day one.
I agree with the Rooney argument but I believe Welbeck was out injured himself for a while? He started both legs against Munich which were considered to be very important games for us, Kagawa deserved to start today for his form in the league in my opinion, fair enough he did not produce much today.
I'm past that stage. Now I'll only be happy if he gets sacked publically on tv and the grand finale is him getting gunged by Dave Benson Phillips.
I do not know what the club is thinking and I hope to god they can see that longevity like SAF cannot be repeated
I meant the posters on here who back Moyes simply because sticking with SAF till he turned it around worked in the past
I am just hoping for someone in the media to throw us a bone on the sacking of Moyes. It is just so depressing having him as manager of Manchester United.
Aiming for 'stability' was always going to be self-defeating. You aim to win, and the stability comes from that.
I say at the 91st minute of the last match of the season Woodward should be on the horn to Dortmund....offer a huge deal and see if Klopp bites...if not then go for Van Gaal.
He's not getting sacked, don't hope for it, Moyes will fail to deliver again.
Truth is the United board have written this season off whatever happens, and made the decision quite a while ago.
Truth is the United board have written this season off whatever happens, and made the decision quite a while ago.
I knew how bad things were but when you see it in print like that its still shocking.
6 points off Spurs. Spurs
Martinez, the genius who led Wigan to relegation? Yeah, why didn't we get him.
Have you read about the concept of Occam's razor? In a nutshell it says often the simplistic and overwhelmingly obvious answer is the correct one
What has changed between last year and this year at this club
And yes agree that all players have aged a year - but they do so at all other clubs too - and their managers/coaches/board find a way to deal with it
Think about it for a minute
I would settle for a prank "Moyes sacked" headline right now.
It is almost cruel by the board. The fans are being made to suffer, maybe they think we should have a reality check and it is cruel on Moyes. He needs sacking for his own sanity. The boards own pride is getting in the way now.
I think he will still be here at this stage next season, embarrasement in the league, consecutive home hammerings to our two worst possible rivals and now schooled by his old team and he's still here. We're just going to be stubborn about it. In 12 months Liverpool could be equaling our 20 titles and we might be wondering when we'll get in the Champions League again.
Hope turning into desperation.
A strong Manchester United makes our rivalry with Liverpool better. It is a watered down rivalry at the moment.
Never going to happen while his brother is part of the coaching team.
Good job comparing Moyes and Mourinho, as wide a gap as possible for managerial qualities. You should stick to mortuary work.
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