Moyes So Far!

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David if your reading this your a nice guy and I like you, but this just isnt working out and people will respect you more if you acknowledge it yourself and resign, plenty of good managers have been put in charge of teams it just didnt happen for them, AVB at Chelsea and Rafa at Inter for example, your tactics, coaching staff, and style of play just doesnt fit in here, Im sure your under immense pressure and dont want to be seen as a quitter, it simply, isnt going to happen for you here and I think at the end of the season it would be best for all parties involved if you part company and start a new chapter in your managerial carear elsewhere, its bad at the moment and the match day fans have been great and very patient with you cause they like you and want this to work just as much as I do, but if this continues I can see this ending badly for you. You are driving towards the edge of a cliff at the moment

In our last two big games against Olympiakos and Liverpool, we had 2 shots on target the whole game, that simply is not good enough, our form is at an all time low and we seem to be getting worse every game, the players are not reacting to your tactics very well and our football is dreadful to watch, Im sure the board have your backing and your very lucky to be in charge of a club as classy as Man Utd because they will have all the patience in the world with you, If you do intend on staying it would be best if you came out and told us that their will be big changes at the club, your capture (or SAF/Gills) capture of Juan Mata and Rooneys unexpected contract renewal have been the only positives from this season, You seem to be looking to bring in some really good players aswell which is good too, We as the fans are willing to forget this season and get behind you IF there are big changes in the performances next season and not anything like what we are seeing at the moment, if this requires getting the squad back in training early after the World Cup and doing double sessions in the off season to implement your style then so be it, because the players dont seem to know themselves how to play the Moyes way.

The service to RVP has been attrocious under you and the understanding with Rooney just isnt there at all like it was last season when they played together, RVP is one of the best strikers in the world and we cannot even play in our most dangerous asset because of your obsession with getting to the byline and crossing, the Fulham game at home this season I hope you acknowledge as one of the worst managerial performances of all time, you camp in your oppenents half for the whole game and get 82% possesion and all you can string together is 85 unsuccesful crosses, you have tried to change your philosophy slightly over the last few games but we both know it just isnt working for you. In conclusion if you do intend on sticking around next season please do yourself a favour and resign before this goes from bad to worse, If by October we see no improvement it could really get ugly for you at Old Trafford, Im sure you want that big juicy compensation bonus in your contract so I dont expect youll be resigning anyway, but if you can come to some mutual agreement with the Glazers where you get your compensation and we arent completely broke while we search for a new manager that would be great.
 
I was going to write an open letter but I couldn't spell 'Motes'.
 
Open letters, playing shite, out of the top 4. All we need now is a mock up of Phil Jones shagging a lion or something and our transformation into Liverpool will be complete.
 
The open letters started. PDC, the only way he'll resign is if you send the letter to him by post office. And you should obviously sign it.
 
He's still in the Newbies and he's even way out of his depth in there. Luckily for us Sir Alex Ferguson isn't a moderator on here.
 
Dear Polo & all at Red Carpet.net,

We're trying our very best for you, the fans. I am sure that we will turn things around very soon, thanks to your wonderful support and...oh, who the feck am I kidding? PS Stop photoshopping me, you bastards.

Love,
Dave xxx

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David if your reading this your a nice guy and I like you, but this just isnt working out and people will respect you more if you acknowledge it yourself and resign, plenty of good managers have been put in charge of teams it just didnt happen for them, AVB at Chelsea and Rafa at Inter for example, your tactics, coaching staff, and style of play just doesnt fit in here, Im sure your under immense pressure and dont want to be seen as a quitter, it simply, isnt going to happen for you here and I think at the end of the season it would be best for all parties involved if you part company and start a new chapter in your managerial carear elsewhere, its bad at the moment and the match day fans have been great and very patient with you cause they like you and want this to work just as much as I do, but if this continues I can see this ending badly for you. You are driving towards the edge of a cliff at the moment

In our last two big games against Olympiakos and Liverpool, we had 2 shots on target the whole game, that simply is not good enough, our form is at an all time low and we seem to be getting worse every game, the players are not reacting to your tactics very well and our football is dreadful to watch, Im sure the board have your backing and your very lucky to be in charge of a club as classy as Man Utd because they will have all the patience in the world with you, If you do intend on staying it would be best if you came out and told us that their will be big changes at the club, your capture (or SAF/Gills) capture of Juan Mata and Rooneys unexpected contract renewal have been the only positives from this season, You seem to be looking to bring in some really good players aswell which is good too, We as the fans are willing to forget this season and get behind you IF there are big changes in the performances next season and not anything like what we are seeing at the moment, if this requires getting the squad back in training early after the World Cup and doing double sessions in the off season to implement your style then so be it, because the players dont seem to know themselves how to play the Moyes way.

The service to RVP has been attrocious under you and the understanding with Rooney just isnt there at all like it was last season when they played together, RVP is one of the best strikers in the world and we cannot even play in our most dangerous asset because of your obsession with getting to the byline and crossing, the Fulham game at home this season I hope you acknowledge as one of the worst managerial performances of all time, you camp in your oppenents half for the whole game and get 82% possesion and all you can string together is 85 unsuccesful crosses, you have tried to change your philosophy slightly over the last few games but we both know it just isnt working for you. In conclusion if you do intend on sticking around next season please do yourself a favour and resign before this goes from bad to worse, If by October we see no improvement it could really get ugly for you at Old Trafford, Im sure you want that big juicy compensation bonus in your contract so I dont expect youll be resigning anyway, but if you can come to some mutual agreement with the Glazers where you get your compensation and we arent completely broke while we search for a new manager that would be great.

No formal introduction, no date, poor spelling throughout and also your address should be in the top right hand corner. Must do better. See me after class. Grade - Unclassified.
 
Did you honestly think Chelsea had a better squad than ours back in May 2013? Fast forward 9 months and the difference is ALL down to the 2 managers, Moyes has even spent more than Mourinho.
We basically lost Ferdinand, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs, Nani and RVP for this year, so yes, they had a better squad. And you thought we were good to watch last year under Fergie?
 
Dear Polo & all at Red Carpet.net,

We're trying our very best for you, the fans (even my best isn't enough). I am sure that we will turn things around very soon (give me a few years so I can rebuild a team), thanks to your wonderful support (I know you support the club through thick and thin and I am giving you the thin..) and...oh, who the feck am I kidding? PS keep photoshopping me, you've done a good job.

Love,
Dave xxx
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I'm disappointed I've yet to see Phil Jones shagging a lion.

Moyes says he can he Utds Steven Gerrard for the next 10 years.

He even has him in special training, he gets Rooney to stand 30 yards away and has Phil ping 80 yard passes in his general direction.
 
Take down that fecking chosen one banner and shut up singing that Moyes song, what the feck has he done to earn either? SAF, Giggs, Ole have banners and chants on the back of producing and being legends, this is just prolonging this negative, incompetent and anti Manchester United man at our club. Why? Cos SAF said support your new manager? WAKE THE feck UP.
 
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The second gif, Rooney is about 20 foot away from him and looking straight at him. Is he ignoring instructions or something to cause Moyes frustrated expression?

Jesus, there's something unbelievably sad about those two gifs :(
 
It's easy to judge the performance of the team and the players without trying to figure out WHY they're playing like this.

They're playing like this because of the incompetence of the manager, he selects the team, tactics and motivates the team. Do you think Mata chooses to play as a conventional winger?
We basically lost Ferdinand, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs, Nani and RVP for this year, so yes, they had a better squad. And you thought we were good to watch last year under Fergie?

Did I say anything about being good to watch? The fact is Sir Alex managed the same group of players to run away with the title, Moyes, having spent 65m to add HIS players, have us sitting in 7th.

Mourinho has managed to make Terry rediscover his old self and become a key player after being written off last season, Moyes has managed to turn most of our world class players shit, except Rooney who basically runs the team.
 
We will go out against olympiakos no doubt, we still have to play city, away to Newcastle, everton, Southampton and west ham. The only bonus is that 7th won't get you Europa league. I cannot believe that the club are not looking at what is transpiring on the pitch repetitively and are not concerned. I don't think it makes sense to sack him until CL elimination is confirmed, but immediately after that, there is no reason not to, the rest of the season is a dead rubber.

Why? Do you think we are more likely to get through with him in charge? Unless there's a non-CL qualification sack without compensation clause, there is no good reason to keep him around.
 
Did you honestly think Chelsea had a better squad than ours back in May 2013? Fast forward 9 months and the difference is ALL down to the 2 managers, Moyes has even spent more than Mourinho.

It's not even 9 mths, the crap has started a few mths into the new season.

So, the player's getting old is an excuse.

Most of the starting eleven are in their prime 25ish years.
 

Oh... sorry, thought it's Clough..cough..moyes.

Nah, I don't think Rene would want to jump back to being a coach (albeit a glorified one) just to work under Giggs (as much as he's respected and all that, this is the man that for the last few years receiving instruction from him, you don't expect him to suddenly taking charge and barking orders at Rene, and ditto with Phelan)

Again this is not a dig at Giggs, but surely based on qualification, you might as well put Rene/Phelan as manager (caretaker). Unless we want Giggs there just as a token manager
 
Did I say anything about being good to watch? The fact is Sir Alex managed the same group of players to run away with the title, Moyes, having spent 65m to add HIS players, have us sitting in 7th.

Mourinho has managed to make Terry rediscover his old self and become a key player after being written off last season, Moyes has managed to turn most of our world class players shit, except Rooney who basically runs the team.
Moyes spent $65M but Mata only arrived in the winter session and has not been played in his best position, I agree, but how would you handle Mata, Rooney and RVP? And Fellaini I've hardly seen play.
These players are earning in a week, more than most of us make in 10 years. Maureen shouldn't have to wave a magic wand to bring Terry alive. And Moyes isn't responsible for the effort and fighting spirit of the players on the pitch. $250,000 a week would be motivation for me baby. Yes, he's responsible for tactics but in the long run it's that through ball, that one touch passing, those accurate crosses, the confident interplay between the players, that fighting spirit, that has been our modus operandi for decades.
When you get passed Rooney, RVP, Mata, De Gea, Januzaj.....who else do you want in the team every week? Raphael maybe? Evra, Ferdinand and Vidic have lost their pace; Jones, Smalling, Evans, are OK but are they real MUQ. Maybe Smalling. I thought Chica was the new Denis Law, great goal poacher, but he rarely plays. If Welbeck plays, then one of Rooney or RVP has to sit out. He's not an Andy Cole.
Anyhow, we deserve to be where we are right now with the squad we have IMHO. We need drastic changes for next year and I hope the United backroom have it all together. I can't see any manager turning the present squad into a World Beater.
 
Moyes spent $65M but Mata only arrived in the winter session and has not been played in his best position, I agree, but how would you handle Mata, Rooney and RVP? And Fellaini I've hardly seen play.
These players are earning in a week, more than most of us make in 10 years. Maureen shouldn't have to wave a magic wand to bring Terry alive. And Moyes isn't responsible for the effort and fighting spirit of the players on the pitch. $250,000 a week would be motivation for me baby. Yes, he's responsible for tactics but in the long run it's that through ball, that one touch passing, those accurate crosses, the confident interplay between the players, that fighting spirit, that has been our modus operandi for decades.
When you get passed Rooney, RVP, Mata, De Gea, Januzaj.....who else do you want in the team every week? Raphael maybe? Evra, Ferdinand and Vidic have lost their pace; Jones, Smalling, Evans, are OK but are they real MUQ. Maybe Smalling. I thought Chica was the new Denis Law, great goal poacher, but he rarely plays. If Welbeck plays, then one of Rooney or RVP has to sit out. He's not an Andy Cole.
Anyhow, we deserve to be where we are right now with the squad we have IMHO. We need drastic changes for next year and I hope the United backroom have it all together. I can't see any manager turning the present squad into a World Beater.


Do you honestly believe that? We cant beat the likes of Stoke Sunderland Swansea Spurs Newcastle Everton West Brom or Olybiakos and you think our squad deserves that? This very same squad last year was 29 points ahead of Liverpool at this time, and yet we couldn't even create one chance against them the other day losing easily 0-3 and you think the our squad deserves it. Are squad is more that good enough to be challenging for a minimum of 4th position, its amazing how much our standards have dropped under Moyes I cant believe you think our squad deserves to be 7th and 20 points of the top.
 
Moyes spent $65M but Mata only arrived in the winter session and has not been played in his best position, I agree, but how would you handle Mata, Rooney and RVP? And Fellaini I've hardly seen play.
These players are earning in a week, more than most of us make in 10 years. Maureen shouldn't have to wave a magic wand to bring Terry alive. And Moyes isn't responsible for the effort and fighting spirit of the players on the pitch. $250,000 a week would be motivation for me baby. Yes, he's responsible for tactics but in the long run it's that through ball, that one touch passing, those accurate crosses, the confident interplay between the players, that fighting spirit, that has been our modus operandi for decades.
When you get passed Rooney, RVP, Mata, De Gea, Januzaj.....who else do you want in the team every week? Raphael maybe? Evra, Ferdinand and Vidic have lost their pace; Jones, Smalling, Evans, are OK but are they real MUQ. Maybe Smalling. I thought Chica was the new Denis Law, great goal poacher, but he rarely plays. If Welbeck plays, then one of Rooney or RVP has to sit out. He's not an Andy Cole.
Anyhow, we deserve to be where we are right now with the squad we have IMHO. We need drastic changes for next year and I hope the United backroom have it all together. I can't see any manager turning the present squad into a World Beater.

Seriously... how blind you are to Moyes' ineptness with the last line

I guess there's no helping you if you think we deserved to be where we are right now with a squad of Rooney/RvP/Carrick/Januzaj/Kagawa (let's leave Mata out of this)

Newcastle, Everton, Totenham are playing better with a lesser players, and even Fulham, Everton, Palace all are playing better than us at the moment (probably not point wise)

You slag all our teams for Moyes.
 
The way I look at it is, if I'd been told at the beginning of the season that in the middle of March we'd be 7th in the league, 12 points off 4th spot (who have two games in hand) and 18 off the leaders whilst playing god-awful stuff, I'd be pretty sure the manager was the main one at fault. We're defending champions ffs. I think Fergie leaving has had more of a shock on our players than most have realised, but not to this extent. We've had our best front players fit since new year and signed Mata as well, so even that isn't an excuse anymore. We're still tumescent (our form got even worse in fact).
 
And you blame Moyes for that?

He's the manager. He gets the plaudits when we win, but he has to cop the flak when we lose.

Is it more likely that our entire title winning team has forgotten how to play football overnight, or that we have a manager out of his depth, with inept coaching staff that he brought in with him.
 
If true-the most telling thing for me in the piece is the reported rumblings amongst commercial partners about being unhappy being linked with a losing team. Fans and sponsors in developing markets have no loyalty to United-and will take their money elsewhere if the team is in decline. This is something the Glazers understand-and will likely grease the skids for Moyes.
 
Move over Daily Star, hello International Business Times.


David Moyes on the Precipice at Manchester United as Players and Supporters Lose Faith

By Nick Howson March 17, 2014

David Moyes' future as Manchester United manager is growing increasingly bleak after evidence of supporters turning on the Scot following the 3-0 defeat to Liverpool was accentuated by reports of a major falling-out with senior players at Old Trafford.

United won the title by 11 points ahead of Manchester City last term in Sir Alex Ferguson's final season but currently sit seventh and face their lowest top flight finish for 24 years and not qualifying for European competition for the first time since 1981, following a ninth Premier League defeat of the campaign.

Moyes was handed a six-year contract upon being appointed as successor to Ferguson but after another abject display in defeat to Brendan Rodgers' Liverpool, he faces strong questions over his capability to lead the club beyond the end of the current term.

Problems at United had initially been confined to performances on the pitch, particularly at home where they have won just six times in 14 league games, but club fanzine Red Issue has revealed that a training ground bust-up with player-coach Ryan Giggs before the game against Liverpool is jeopardising Moyes' future.

"Phil Neville was sent to ask Giggs why he hadn't attended a recent coaches meeting," the issue read. "The reply that it was 'pointless, as Moyes doesn't listen' did not go down well. Things appear to have improved slightly between them since, however

"Rio's obvious problems with the manager partly stem from his aggravating reference in training to 'what Jagielka would do' in similar situations.

"Moyes did not like being asked 'how does what Jagielka would do have anything to do with how United do things?' All in all, the verdict on Moyes at Carrington seems increasingly to be that he is clueless.

"A couple of weeks ago Moyes had them working on some defensive routine for over two hours. Apparently Ryan more or less stormed off, arms waving about in frustration, muttering words to the effort of 'two hours' defensive practice! This is Man United for f**k's sake.'"

Giggs was appointed to Moyes' backroom team alongside former United defender Phil Neville, who joined from Everton after retirement. However the legendary winger has played just 81 minutes since the first week of January and was left out of the squad to face Liverpool.

Rio Ferdinand's current contract expires at the end of the season but the club are yet to offer an extension, with the injury-ravaged 35 year old having started just eight league games.

After being urged to support Moyes in his debut season by the departing Ferguson, the United following is starting to turn on the 50-year-old with an online poll on leading club forum RedCafe.net seeing 92% vote in favour of the ex-Everton boss being sacked at the end of the season.

'United We Stand' editor Andy Mitten added: "The players clearly were not happy in the dressing room after the [Liverpool] game from what I've been told. It is not a happy camp.

"Manchester United fans expected a transition but they did not expect it to be so bad and be so far off the pace and for performances to be so bad.

"The mood over the last month has changed. What made it change was the defeat in Greece [to Olympiakos] three weeks ago. There were a lot of supporters who said this is a joke, this isn't good enough.

"The mood has definitely swung against David Moyes. Most United fans would like to see David Moyes do well but it's a dwindling support and most people have had enough. The breaking point has been reached over the last couple of weeks."

Final chance

The final chance for United to claim solace from a season in which they are expected to go without silverware for the first time since the 2004/05 campaign comes in the form of the Champions League last 16 second leg against Olympiakos where Moyes' side must overcome a two-goal deficit to reach the last eight.

In the face of criticism from the United fans, Moyes has called upon supporters to inspire the club to a second leg turnaround against the Greek champions.

"The fans were fantastic and deserve great credit for the way they supported the team today," Moyes said after the Liverpool match. "If they give us that support on Wednesday night, it will give us a chance of getting through in the Champions League.

"The players are well aware of what it means on Wednesday and what we have got to do. We've got something to go for so hopefully we can do that."

Speaking to manutd.com, he added: "The players are capable of turning it around. We're all desperate to put things right and make sure we play better to give the supporters here something to shout about."

Following the loss to Liverpool on Sunday United's official Facebook page was 'unliked' by 450,000 people - after executive vice chairman Ed Woodward had stressed the importance of social media engagement upon announcing the club's quarterly financial figures in February.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/david-moye...-united-players-supporters-lose-faith-1440674
 
We made the papers guys (should be a good advertising the caf)

Somehow, although hard to believe... the incidents (although comical) are too well described that leads me to believe:
1. It's either a very poor WuM and jokes created and gaining ground by some social media hype
2. It could have been the truth, leaked out. If what I read is true, surely someone is bound to leak them out "storming out, waving, for feck sake" that sounds like it's too much consistency (in the news) to be dismissed just as WuM

If the 2nd is true... please sack him now.
 
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