Moyes So Far!
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His interviews are even more embarrassing than our displays at times.. "The United job is harder than I thought", "We should make it more difficult for other teams to score against us, and we should score more"... No sh*t.
He doesn't even look like a man who has any plan in mind, or any clue about how to change this. He's just as baffled as anyone of us, and he's making that pretty clear in his interviews.
He doesn't even look like a man who has any plan in mind, or any clue about how to change this. He's just as baffled as anyone of us, and he's making that pretty clear in his interviews.
This article expresses the feeling of the majorities of us, and nothing said there is inaccurate.
From the Arsenal forum
This is the man who said he was unsure Thiago Alcantara would be good for us. One of the best young players in the world, now a mainstay in Bayern's midfield, and available for 15 million.
It's amazing, how even when we're down and look like we're going to fail, some still have this deep seeder fear that we'll return again. They're right.
Neil Custis on Talksport saying that if the next three games go badly, "that's it".
Hardly a brave prediction but at least if the shit hits the fan in the next week then we can all look forward to a Moyes-less Man United.
Hardly a brave prediction but at least if the shit hits the fan in the next week then we can all look forward to a Moyes-less Man United.
Honestly, didn't expect any different.
It'll take the match going fans to really create a septic atmosphere for things to change this soon.
I hope you're right, I really do.
I'm genuinely concerned about his wellbeing at work. It's unfair to allow him to continue with this amount of pressure and have no answer time and time again.
If we were to get rid it would be at the end of the season. There is no point now, we're not getting fourth and if we wanted to go for Europe we would've done it already - let's not kid ourselves we are no match for the likes of Bayern or Barca right now.
I really wouldn't put much mind in that tweet - are the club really going to openly tell a journalist, even off the record, that he's on thin ice?
Absolutely right.
I can't wait for us to return to fcking radiating intimidation and respect.
Disagree. If we sack him at the end of the season we have less time to get him out, the new manager in and sign players before the world cup starts. I'd sack him now, gets Giggs in as an interim and have an agreement lined up for someone to take the reigns permanently from next season. We can start working on their transfer targets right away. We can't afford another lackluster summer in the transfer market.
I'm looking forward to his sacking, it's the only hope I have right now. Hope that things WILL get better when that day comes. It's an exciting time when I think of the top managers who would still love this job.
The second gif, Rooney is about 20 foot away from him and looking straight at him. Is he ignoring instructions or something to cause Moyes frustrated expression?
I mean, they're hardly going to brief the press with news that patience is wearing thin, are they?
He's doing what every footballer in the world does when his manager starts shouting: pretending he can't hear him.
The second gif, Rooney is about 20 foot away from him and looking straight at him. Is he ignoring instructions or something to cause Moyes frustrated expression?
Listen I'm not a fan of Moyes but those gifs make me feel sad. Sometimes even your best isn't enough, nor ever will be.
Can anyone lip read? What's he saying? Looks like he's saying something like "Rooney!! Push up to one side! Rooney! rooney?"
I know it's underhand but most clubs do their work in the background anyway so they have someone lined up then make the chop.
My problem with sacking him now is ultimately who would be available and putting someone even less experienced no matter how much of a legend wouldn't make sense - is he better than Moyes and it wouldn't do Giggs' confidence/career plan any good if he came in and lost loads of matches.
Sure he says something about a run and then points at the fullback?
Or get on the outside and run?
I do believe we are at the moment in the middle of losing loads of matches already. Can we sink any lower?
I hope we lose all 3.
"Wayne! Wayne! You'll have me sacked, Wayne! Wayne!"
Seems like he's doing an Alan Partridge impression and just shouting Wayne a lot
The complete lack of confidence is the main problem at the moment, give that back to the players we've got and put them in a system that can honestly be described as belonging in this particular century and it's unlikely we'd do any worse. Giggs would be a risk but if made clear it was just to be caretaker till the end of the season then there are far worse options. The main problem would be that a fair few of the backroom staff would go with Moyes, and whilst no-one thinks particularly highly of them, they're necessary to manage a side.
"Wayne, Wayne, get the ball out wide"?
Moyes will've retired by the time that loads.
I feel sorry for him but he's enormously out of his depth, he doesn't inspire anything nevermind confidence.
The team Moyes inherited had passed its peak. No more Vidic/Ferdinand, powerhouses as defensive midfielders, probably one of the best we've ever had. In midfield we've lost Scholes and Giggs....both irreplaceable. Nani (who I rate) has been unavailable. Fergie's gone and whoever followed would have had a tough time with the players we've had available. RVP has been injured it seems forever this year and we'd never have won the league without him being on top form. How we won the league anyway last year is beyond me. We were just as shite as this year but with better results thanks to RVP making us look better than we were. In my opinion the other teams lost the league.
This is not Moyes fault. He's met the perfect football storm. Iconic manager leaves, great players passed their best, injuries and a spoilt frustrated fan base that expects nothing less than at least 2 trophies a year.
I know one thing though. My Manchester United will return.
I will base my opinion of Moyes and the Glazers on who we buy in the summer (critical) and how we fare in the next season. I can't see United giving him 6 years if next year is as abysmal as this but for us fans I guess its a wait and see cos United aren't going to sack him at this stage of the season. Too late for that. Until then he has my full support.
This is not Moyes fault. He's met the perfect football storm. Iconic manager leaves, great players passed their best, injuries and a spoilt frustrated fan base that expects nothing less than at least 2 trophies a year.
I know one thing though. My Manchester United will return.
I will base my opinion of Moyes and the Glazers on who we buy in the summer (critical) and how we fare in the next season. I can't see United giving him 6 years if next year is as abysmal as this but for us fans I guess its a wait and see cos United aren't going to sack him at this stage of the season. Too late for that. Until then he has my full support.
No we can't sink any lower, that's kinda' my original point. No reason to sack him now we achieve nothing, the only clubs that do it so late in the season are those that are facing relegation. It would also make Ferguson concede his point that United don't do that, if it happens it will be at the end of the season now.
Did you honestly think Chelsea had a better squad than ours back in May 2013? Fast forward 9 months and the difference is ALL down to the 2 managers, Moyes has even spent more than Mourinho.
We will go out against olympiakos no doubt, we still have to play city, away to Newcastle, everton, Southampton and west ham. The only bonus is that 7th won't get you Europa league. I cannot believe that the club are not looking at what is transpiring on the pitch repetitively and are not concerned. I don't think it makes sense to sack him until CL elimination is confirmed, but immediately after that, there is no reason not to, the rest of the season is a dead rubber.
It's not his sole fault, no, but he's the biggest culprit. He has Manchester United dropping points playing the same ineffective and unimaginative football every week, simple as.
Good point on the backroom staff - major problem - would Rene/Mike etc come back temporarily I wonder...
Since the inception of the Premier League, only one team (Manchester United in 2012) haven't won the league despite getting 89 (or more) points.
So, I guess that us winning the league last season just becuse others were shit (or lost it) is a comple myth, not justified by any fact or data.
RVP has been injured only 2 months this season (for around the same time when he last year didn't score a single goal, but we won all the games bar one or two) and since him, Rooney, Fellaini and Carrick returned from the injury (although they were never injured at the same time) and we signed Mata, our form changed from midtable to relegation fodder. Take that as you want, but it looks with every day passing, that the problem won't be solved by getting better players. Rooney, RVP, Fellaini, Carrick and Mata, I think are (big) upgrades on Cleverley, Jones, Chicharito, Welbeck and Young. The results though haven't been improved. Good players can only send you so far.
It's easy to judge the performance of the team and the players without trying to figure out WHY they're playing like this.
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