It has set us back a few years in some departments, Liverpool have progressed, they have CL football now, also £60M promised to be spent during the summer (from qualifying to CL) ontop of that if Suarez leaves for Real madrid in the summer even more money to spend, we are being left in the dust right now.
Moyes So Far!
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It has set us back a few years in some departments, Liverpool have progressed, they have CL football now, also £60M promised to be spent during the summer (from qualifying to CL) ontop of that if Suarez leaves for Real madrid in the summer even more money to spend, we are being left in the dust right now.
Jose Mourinho was the one.....simple as.
Hopefully I can be vindicated with my love-in with him pre-Moyes getting the job. Head and shoulders above the rest.
Hopefully I can be vindicated with my love-in with him pre-Moyes getting the job. Head and shoulders above the rest.
With the match going fans starting to turn it may quicken their decision making. If we go out of the UCL to the weakest team, get beat by City, which will most likely leave us 17* points off 4th place he would surely be gone, there would be no way back. I wouldn't even bet on us getting points at West Ham.
*17 points isn't a typo, I had to check to make sure I wasn't going mad.
In terms of this season then I'd agree, but a good manager could fix them quickly, let him damage the club further and God knows how much he will do.
It's not surprising that any of this is happening really. You can't hire managers like Hodgson and Moyes at giant clubs and expect everyone to somehow be inspired by their...existence.
If he was sacked does anyone think he will secure another job within the next 6 months?
I personally think his reputation has been badly hit that even club like Palace or Hull will not hire him, he might have to go to a championship club to rebuild his confidence and reputation.
I personally think his reputation has been badly hit that even club like Palace or Hull will not hire him, he might have to go to a championship club to rebuild his confidence and reputation.
Don't be ridiculous. He'd walk back into a mid-table side.
I reckon he'll join the managerial merry-go-round with the likes of Bruce/O'Neill etc. Going from one club to another and never hitting the same heights (if you could call it that) that he did with Everton.
Like Allardyce after Bolton, really.
He's still a very good manager, he could also manage a bigger club than Everton.
England might give him the job after Hodgson / England depart on mutual terms after a disastrous world cup.
He'd get a job in a top 12 or so side yes, I think his time at Man Utd would make him a top target too because not many get to see behind the scenes at Carrington he could do a lot with a premiership side
Yes he'd get a job. He'll be great for a mid table club. No top team will go for him and to be honest none would have apart from us. I wonder why.
Not sure he will, a lot clubs want to move away from the dinosaur managers like Allardyce, Moyes and Hodgson.
He can't even do a lot with United.
Whoever comes in to replace Moyes is going to need some time as well. Utd even if Fergie stayed would be having a rebuilding period. Fergie did it 3 or 4 times and he got the last bit of title capability out of the squad last season but Fergie would have had to do some work for a season or 2 to set us up for more titles.
Moyes was always going to need time but unfortunately the way we are playing for me means he just wont get there even if he gets all 6 years. I keep looking and hoping for signs of improvement and I do see some signs that we could play some decent football but those signs are too infrequent and fleeting for me. I really hoped Moyes would be a success but I just cant see it now.
I can handle a poor league position for a season or so if it looks like we have a clear direction and approach. Last season Liverpool finished well off the pace, we had nearly double their goal difference but it was possible to see a clear direction and philosophy for Liverpool appearing. Im not surprised they are doing so well this season.
Moyes was always going to need time but unfortunately the way we are playing for me means he just wont get there even if he gets all 6 years. I keep looking and hoping for signs of improvement and I do see some signs that we could play some decent football but those signs are too infrequent and fleeting for me. I really hoped Moyes would be a success but I just cant see it now.
I can handle a poor league position for a season or so if it looks like we have a clear direction and approach. Last season Liverpool finished well off the pace, we had nearly double their goal difference but it was possible to see a clear direction and philosophy for Liverpool appearing. Im not surprised they are doing so well this season.
I know, I'm saying having seen the inner workings at a top club for 9 months he would have a greater understanding.
He'd definitely be able to get another decent job. While his rep has been hit to the point where he wouldn't get a job at somewhere like Tottenham unlike before when he may have if he'd shown interest, I still reckon he'd get it at somewhere like Newcastle in the summer if Pardew was to leave/be sacked. I definitely think he'd get into a club like Palace or Hull. Despite doing terrible here, people know he's not an awful manager and many clubs would still employ him.
I still can't believe he is the manager of Manchester United
Think he'd possibly go abroad, which would be good for him.
It's like a bad dream that won't end.
He was the only choice. It should have been the easiest and quickest decision the club has ever made. We turned down the best coach in the world to appoint someone with an empty CV purely based on nationality. It is a worse decision than the Busby to McGuiness one.
He'd get a bottom half of the table side no problem. It's his level after all and he's proven to be successful in turning those teams into mid table hard to beat teams.
Genius really... having spent 8-9 months with us, he managed to turn our team from Champions into mid table players. A record breaker in so many ways.
Honestly mate, I wouldn't be sure. As for signs, what would you see? It's pretty clear you're seeing a team who (many of them) don't want the manager.
Lets see what Thursday morning brings. I suspect when he's out of CL/mathematically out of race for top 4, you'll see a decision made.
I had a dream last night that we won the CL...it was wet-dream-esque...then Moyes lifted the cup with the trademark Moyes Smirk...what a bastard he is.
I just thought what it would be like to wake up to the news that he'd been sacked and caught myself on grinning like a maniac.
I'd be smiling too, no offence to the man, but I'll be very happy the day he's gone.
We've got a chance, but between Moyes not being very good at having to commit to attack and our defensive problems, there's so much that can go wrong it's almost madness to expect 3-0 or 4-1.
Yep I think so too. Technically he can still win us the CL. Of course he won't but until it is confirmed I don't think that discussion will happen.
It'll be one of the happiest days of my life. It would feel better than some of our title wins.
I'll probably watch all the reports of it on repeat.
I might even get a party hat. Jelly and ice cream?
So, RI, UWS and several media outlets reporting Moyes has truly lost the dressing room. Surely it's only a matter of time? Who takes over until summer doesn't matter - this season is over anyway, as I don't see any way we can beat Olympiakos on aggregate with Moyes at the wheel. Giggs might not have any experience, but you have to assume he's got lots of respect from the players at least, so I don't see how having him as interim manager until summer could be worse than sticking with Moyes.
Really sad that it got to this stage, but fans truly did give him a proper chance. Until new years I think the majority still wanted to give Moyes time, but since the Fulham game at home it's gone rapidly downhill for him.
Really sad that it got to this stage, but fans truly did give him a proper chance. Until new years I think the majority still wanted to give Moyes time, but since the Fulham game at home it's gone rapidly downhill for him.
I think your nuts if you dont think any long term contracts for managers have key metrics/minimum targets to achieve.
There is just no way any business buys into a long term deal without some form of get out.
It's also not rocket science to work out the basics for Utd - CL qualification. It's in the bloody bond prospectus for a start!
There is just no way any business buys into a long term deal without some form of get out.
It's also not rocket science to work out the basics for Utd - CL qualification. It's in the bloody bond prospectus for a start!
I guess you haven't heard of the United Way.
Don't worry, Fergie said we'd be "fine".
I remember querying what "fine" meant.
Some reckoned back to winning stuff soon, but fine to me, means not getting relegated, no money worries etc
I remember querying what "fine" meant.
Some reckoned back to winning stuff soon, but fine to me, means not getting relegated, no money worries etc
? Do you think Utd are that incompetent from a business perspective?
The Glazers have fired three NFL coaches for not meeting min requirements, Raheem Morris in 2012, Greg Schiano in 2013 , and Monte Kiffin in 2009. They're smart enough to write min requirements in their contracts, so I imagine Moyes has just the same.
Exactly my point pal
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