Sadly, I think you're right. Saying that it really is make or break for him now, this game is massive and the worrying thing is I can see Fulham getting something from the game, our confidence must be shot after the defeat against Stoke and the less than convincing win against Cardiff.
I can name 1 manager who I KNOW is not good enough for United, 3 guesses... go
If it was RAWK it would have been up months ago.
He's been starting a lot more games than the better player.
No.
Oh yeah, thank you so much David Moyes for that. May you forever make us perform to the least of our abilities so that we cannot avoid above mentioned "Realification:.
On the other hand, if they're in it for the profit as everyone thinks, the share prices going up means they can sell more at a higher price. Surely that is a more attractive proposition for them.
That doesn't mean he's a bad player. He's been shifted out of postion for so long. Do you remember what he was like in the reserves? He's actually very good when he's played correctly. In fact, we have a serious problem of playing players out of position, to simply play as many good players we can, rather than creating a squad that fits together well.
Nobody is saying this is how I think it'll turn out though. It's all "there's no way", "no chance", "definitely going to fail".It's called making an informed prediction. No one knows for a fact that Mourinho will have Chelsea challenging for the title this season, we could have done a Moyes and dragged them down to 7th, but most reasonable people knew that Mourinho has what it takes and will be successful.
Nope, but I've money on us losing just in case, as dickish as that is.
it's ridiculous. it's a thread made by an idiot/WUM and people are actually responding to it in a serious manner. People are actually saying they want our club to lose a game of football if it means getting rid of our manager. Where does the idiocy stop on this place? The idea that any supporter for any club would want their team to lose a game is mental!
He really don't. And Chicha has also managed to score 7 goals despite being in even more limted gameplay. He's also far mroe consistent than Welbeck who can one game look like Henry and the other like Heskey.
Exactly, I can't how people see the benefit in it. I'll support this club through thick and thin, but I never want them to lose, even if it has an advantage.
What's wrong with discussing it seriously though?
Nothing is certain in life, but in this case the likelihood is so high that it's almost impossible to see any alternative outcome.
Well feel free to believe that but try to ram that idea down my throat and we'll have a problem. Fair?
I've never tried to ram my opinion down anyone's throat, unlike Messi fanbois who have a problem with other people thinking Ronaldo is better.
Admittedly you're not so bad, if you were I'd have said "again".
it is. They want their club to lose a game of football, actually get beaten, how is that not absurd? Think about it seriously now, wanting your team to be defeated just so your little dream of getting your own manager sacked can come to fruition.
Because it's clearly not going to happen? Because even despite the fact that he may not be the right man for the job, we should at least try and be positive and at least hope he can turn things around instead of actually outright wanting him to fail and wanting us to be beaten, maybe? And not wank over other potential managers and then go "see, I told you, I told you he would've been better for us and Moyes was right, suck it!"
Yes because that's entirely comparable to wanting to lose so your manager gets sacked, isn't it? Just because other clubs do these sort of things doesn't make it idiotic, especially considering we as Utd fans supposedly pride ourselves as not being as erratic and OTT as opposition supporters when it comes to this sort of thing.
I agree with you that he could become a success, however all signs are saying he won’t be. Like most fans all I want to see is a bit of direction, something different, even a bit of passion would help but we have nothing to go on.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
That's just a crazy argument to make though, especially as if we won the game it'd be an extremely positive thing for us. To actually reach the stage where you're so adamant on getting rid of our player that you want to see him fail is just sad really.
Actually I have given a few other names of proven managers (Van Gaal, Bielsa, Heynckess, Simeone, Prandelli, Hiddink, Capello).
Are you serious telling me you'd not want United to lose if we were playing Chelsea/Arsenal in the last game of the season and they're 1pt ahead of Liverpool on the verge of their 20th/21st title, whilst we have nothing to play for in that game?
Would you be more happy to see Young play like shit next game and then us signing Ronaldo (or someone worse, let say Reus) or to see Young playing good the next game and then continuing with him for another few years?
Indeed. I find the idea of wanting your manager to fail just utterly miserable really, it baffles my mind in every way. It seems the main people who are doing it are also those who have a love-in for people like Mourinho and are constantly trying to remind us how much better he is and how they wanted him here and not Moyes.
Yeah.
Well, you never know. I'm the sure the owners are daft enough to just keep him hanging around despite him running the footballing side of the club into the ground. This is a business and a football club, not a playground for Sir Alex's favorite hard working Brits to try their luck and do their summer internship.
Like I said, I don't agree with it and I'll be very surprised if it's more than a handful who see it that way. But if they want what's best for the club, I understand their (extreme) emotions and opinions. I'm sure some Liverpool fans felt this way about Hodgson.
Doubt anyone talks or even thinks like that. They most likely just don't rate Moyes and think other managers would be better for us than Moyes, which he seems to proving conclusively this season.
