It's getting to the point where I wonder whether, even if we got some class midfielders/players in the summer, Moyes would have the first clue what to do with them.
Moyes So Far!
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A little annoying when I hear Zaha was the difference at Cardiff today...
whenever we tried to play it out of the back we couldn't. So, hoofball. Terrible anyway you look at it.
I think we have players who shouldn't be playing in the team and a manager who's not good enough for the job. Perfect storm.
I think we have players who shouldn't be playing in the team and a manager who's not good enough for the job. Perfect storm.
Or Barca, Madrid, Juve, Milan, Inter, Bayern, Liverpool etc.
Practically every top club would have sacked Moyes a long time ago.
We are looking just more arrogant by the United way. I don't think that I have ever seem something more obvious in football than this. Moyes is completely out of his depth and doesn't have a clue. The worst manager to have managed a top club in at-least a decade.
On a side note, can someone tell me why Phil Neville was wearing an ear piece????
It looked moronic
It looked moronic
Certainly an improvement on David Moyes, as long as we have someone else dealing with signing players.
It's maddening. I'm absolutely sure he doesn't address that in training. Or if he does try to change it, then players absolutely ignore him. Don't know which is worse.
The fantasy that we'd be ok when we got Van Persie and Rooney back was brutally exposed again today. Moyes is like a man relying on two star players to go out there and make magic happen because, frankly, he lacks the managerial talent to set up and inspire his side to do so. We could've played for 2 or 3 hours with Van Persie up top today and it wouldn't have mattered. The team is disorganised, scared, lacking in belief and Moyes is not showing the leadership or thinking to turn it around. The quality of our squad is not such that we should have lost 8 times already this season. He is failing to get the best out of what he's got. Nobody expected Fergie levels of man management but we didn't expect this.
He badly needs some P.R lessons, no wonder the players can't be motivated when you have a guy like him as your coach.
Wreck It Dave
Tearing Fergie's empire down one game at a time.
Got an image of him with a big feck off mallet screaming "I'm gonna wreck it!" as every negative record is smashed in succession.
Tearing Fergie's empire down one game at a time.
Got an image of him with a big feck off mallet screaming "I'm gonna wreck it!" as every negative record is smashed in succession.
Forget about Kroos or Reus or whoever, use that 30m or so to tempt Sir Alex back for 4 months, he is the only one capable to digging us out of this hole.
Yeah, that'd be a terrible decision IMV. I think SAF's reign has ended. We need to draw a line under it. He needs to not be the most important person at the club any longer. He probably still is. I want a manager to come in who looks at what SAF's achieved and the size of the club and thinks he can improve upon what SAF did, not quiver in his boots, shaken with admiration. SAF's legacy is phenomenal. But to think there isn't a margin for improvement in every aspect of the club is lacking ambition and lacking constructive critical thinking.
I wasn't keen on Jose, but he wouldn't have been SAF's lapdog, he would have probably thought "I bet I can do better in Europe" or something similar.
He wont have won any fans with that move,especially over here. Anyway as long as the results wont come, ppl will keep slagging moyes whatever he does.
Yeah, it'd have been alright if it was Mata and Januzaj both playing well on the wings, but hearing he was playing well while Young lumbered about on the wing for us was frustrating.
Ive had enough of this "we played well" bullshit. Grow a fecking pair David and stop taking the fans for mugs. That was yet another shit performance with the team unable to demonstrate any cohesion at all.
Hes the manager of Manchester United. Time he took some fecking responsibility.
Hes the manager of Manchester United. Time he took some fecking responsibility.
Also show the players how to play through the fecking middle. Well actually, Mata knows how, so just show them when to start their runs.
He should fine every player attempting a cross during training sessions. 10 hours a day trying to score a goal by going through the middle. Do something to make our play a BIT less predictable.
He should fine every player attempting a cross during training sessions. 10 hours a day trying to score a goal by going through the middle. Do something to make our play a BIT less predictable.
To match his stupid hair.
Welbeck instead of Fletcher really was a puzzling move.
It's getting to the point? I think he could be in charge of Barcelona and fail to qualify for Europe
He said 'worldy?' He should be sacked for that alone.
I would volunteer to drive him from Napoli to Manchester. Although I dislike him, he will be a great improvement. fecking hell, probably even Fat Sam would be an improvement now.
In football they say you create your own luck.
There's a very good reason why most top clubs sack manager who do not perform to an acceptable level, because it's the correct thing to do.
Most people will get out of the way of a car driven straight at them, you know why? Because it's the correct thing to do. Staying put and trying to be different normally doesn't end well.
Expect to see that quote all over the papers tomorrow. He's signed his own death warrant.
Any other top club would've sacked him by now, no doubt in my mind. feck, even some shite clubs would've sacked him.
Oh if he ever says the word "tekkers" I firmly believe he will be sacked without compensation
I'm old enough to have seen the same shit spouted about Fergie. So pardon me for thinking that United will give the manager a chance.
Yeah and I feel bad feeling like that. I mean I was a big supporter of his but more and more I just think he's not showing nearly enough. He's had lots of poor luck with injuries and how games have gone but undoubtedly for me he's continually under utilized the players he has available and seems at times either blind or too stubborn to address the actual problems. How many times do we see us struggle when we have two strikers playing quite high compared to when one play's more like an a/m, how many times do we see Welbeck shows he's not a good second striker. I mean it always seems to me that for any situation where we need to change it it's either a direct like for like swap or add an attacker when a tactical change seems to be the thing more required.
We are a team that gets almost no goals from anyone other then our strikers, same as last season, its got nothing to do with Moyes
Holy shit if he said that then... well feck me... I'm actually speechless if he thinks running down the flanks equates to chances and good football
Harry would be an improvement for crying out loud. Atleast he gets his team to play decent football.
I feel really sorry for him. He had to finish top 4 and win some silverware for the fans to give him a chance, however I reckon his position will be untenable at the end of the season. It's looking like finishing 10th is a reality.
You have to admit he has had some horrendous luck though. I know some of his decisions are way off, but Fergie did some odd things during games as well, some highly illogical tactical moves, but the team mentality of winning got him the lady luck factor. Moyes doesn't have it. Good luck is psychological and I think at this club we need a proven winner.
I hate how people are comparing SAF's early years with Moyes. The club is in a totally different position to what it was in 86-89. We have just come off the back of 20 years of the highest achievements, you need an expert level winner to mantain that form. No one is suggesting we were going to have that level of success after Fergie, but what is happening now is really not acceptable.
Just to add though I don't think Mourinho would have been right for us as his play style is not right for Manchester United. We play exciting flair football with the aim of giving the fans something to take their mind off their shit jobs and lives. Under Mourinho watching us would have been like being at work, dull and grinding. Having said that....David Moyes?
You have to admit he has had some horrendous luck though. I know some of his decisions are way off, but Fergie did some odd things during games as well, some highly illogical tactical moves, but the team mentality of winning got him the lady luck factor. Moyes doesn't have it. Good luck is psychological and I think at this club we need a proven winner.
I hate how people are comparing SAF's early years with Moyes. The club is in a totally different position to what it was in 86-89. We have just come off the back of 20 years of the highest achievements, you need an expert level winner to mantain that form. No one is suggesting we were going to have that level of success after Fergie, but what is happening now is really not acceptable.
Just to add though I don't think Mourinho would have been right for us as his play style is not right for Manchester United. We play exciting flair football with the aim of giving the fans something to take their mind off their shit jobs and lives. Under Mourinho watching us would have been like being at work, dull and grinding. Having said that....David Moyes?
I don't think 30m will get us Jose. Sir Alex would probably rescue 4th place for us, and gives him once final chance at the CL.
If he'd put Fletcher on people would be complaining about him being negative
By that logic we could have appointed Glenn Roeder and he'd just be going through what SAF went through, so we should give him time.
And what position where we in when Fergie took over?
I get that you want Moyes to be given a chance but to say that fans who want him gone are acting like City and Chelsea fans is ridiculous.
He's a totally uninspiring manager. As of yet he's not got us going in the league. A lot of excuses have been made, the tough start, injuries, lack of quality players, bad summer window etc. etc.
At some point the buck stops with him. This isn't the perfect group of players but there is no questioning that he is underachieving massively with the players he has. I mean most would've been quite understanding if he didn't win the league but the depths he's plunged us to is unacceptable.
The worst thing is he's not even gotten us doing what he was supposedly good at i.e. create a solid team and making them hard to beat. We are so bad defensively for example, supposedly a Moyes strong suit. We are a really easy team to beat these days and once we go behind we seem to give up completely.
We went 2-1 behind, and even with 30 mins to go and I had no confidence that we would get something from the game. For a United team that is pathetic.
At some point the buck stops with him. This isn't the perfect group of players but there is no questioning that he is underachieving massively with the players he has. I mean most would've been quite understanding if he didn't win the league but the depths he's plunged us to is unacceptable.
The worst thing is he's not even gotten us doing what he was supposedly good at i.e. create a solid team and making them hard to beat. We are so bad defensively for example, supposedly a Moyes strong suit. We are a really easy team to beat these days and once we go behind we seem to give up completely.
We went 2-1 behind, and even with 30 mins to go and I had no confidence that we would get something from the game. For a United team that is pathetic.
His post game interviews are the fecking worst. He is worse than Mike Phelan. He also repeats the same thing over and over again.
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