Moyes So Far!

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Feeky Magee said:
Moyes: "We played well today, I don't know what I have to do to win. We should have won, it was a good performance."

ACTUAL DAVID MOYES QUOTE. I just. What. I.
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Has a point but that's the telling part is his admission of not knowing how to win. I just feel this is his downfall. He just doesn't have it.
 
As much as his hands were tied, I didn't understand how Young lasted 90 minutes. RVP genuinely looked fit this time unlike Newcastle for example. Obviously I'm just an angry fan but it was frustrating to see Young on until the end on a day where he was very very poor.

The Welbeck substitution didn't make sense. Again I understand his hands were tied but it didn't make sense when you have Darren Fletcher and Adnan Januzaj who could've offered more in areas we lacked in.

I can't figure David Moyes out. One week I think yes, he's nearly settled, he knows exactly how to manage things...but then it all falls down and I want to die.
 
Bad substitutions.

Fletcher should have come on to give us some solidity in the centre, and not Welbeck. Adnan should also have come on during latter parts of the game, and Rooney moved up top. Wind and not having a regular centre-back also helped Stoke's long ball game.
 
If things keep going like this it will be a return for Fergie
 
An Irish Red said:
People will laugh at this but I honestly don't think he's any better than the likes of Martin O'Neill. I honestly don't.
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He isn't better than O'Neill. They're both uninspiring mid-table managers. Pretty much everyone knew that before the club even appointed him.
 
shaggy said:
What are you on about?

Any top club would have fired Moyes by now. Champions to this. It's atrocious.
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You talk about "top clubs" like they are all interchangeable. Like there is no difference in culture between United, City and Chelsea.
And for many posters on here I guess that's true...

But everything United have done, in appointing Moyes on a long contract, indicates a willingness to give him to time to build his own team.
I'm sure he'll given the summer to do that. If that means United are not Chelsea, and not City, then maybe some posters need to deal with that.
 
thegregster said:
If we get rid of Moyes the only way is up. Even Pulis would give us a lift.
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LOL, I'd love to see what Pulis would do if he didn't have players from "Batersby dogs home" quality as he puts it, hell if I owned United I'd bring him in just for the hell of it and comedy factor, then start again next summer.
 
Kaos said:
I think Moyes is already doing that for him without the banner.

The more depressing fact is if we sack him there aren't many names to replace him with. We pulled a stinker by snubbing Mourinho. My only hope is we tempt someone like Klopp with a huge offer and allow him to rebuild the team in the summer.
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Bielsa, Van Gaal, Prandelli are only a few who will be free on the summer.

And than we can tempt he likes of Klopp, Simeone and so. Then there are the likes fof managers who at least have potential like Martinez, Pochetino or even Ole. There are a lot of managers who are much better than David Moyes right there.
 
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charleysurf said:
You talk about "top clubs" like they are all interchangeable. Like there is no difference in culture between United, City and Chelsea.
And for many posters on here I guess that's true...

But everything United have done, in appointing Moyes on a long contract, indicates a willingness to give him to time to build his own team.
I'm sure he'll given the summer to do that. If that means United are not Chelsea, and not City, then maybe some posters need to deal with that.
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So what you are basically saying is that United should have give Dave Sexton a 20 year reign?
 
Disappointing statements from him. I didnt see the game because there was no stream available but from everyone's reactions we played far from "well".

I had hoped that he would be tougher with the players after his recent comment about "players needing to step up" or whatever and I expected him to continue that line of rhetorics to push and motivate the players. Seems hes gone back to excuses instead...

The players need a kick up their arse, but its the manager's job to do something to give them that kick when they arent performing. Moyes fails to do that. He stick with players who perform poorly and keep making the same poor tactical decisions and subs.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
It's disturbing to see other teams in the Premier League - teams we would consider to be "lesser" - who pass the ball well, and move. Simple triangle passes around our midfielders, then quickly move forwards to another phase of play. We imagine we played more long balls today than Stoke did. Or at least it felt like it. They have players who cut in, look for the late run and to play a ball through our defence. We just constantly looked to get the ball to Young, Evra or Rafael and ping it into the box. It's stone-age stuff.

Moyes has Everton playing some good football alot of the time. They were solid, but they also had alot about them. More than just passing it to a winger and banging it in.

He had some strokes of bad luck today which were out of his hands. No centre backs on the bench, and two centre backs get injured. But that didn't necessarily lose us the game. Our tactics on the ball cost us. We looked to have no idea. Give the ball to Rooney so he can blast it into the wind seemed to be out go-to tactic.

He can "rebuild" all he wants in summer, but it's more about what changes on the pitch. Teams with inferior squads than us are playing good, penetrative football. Teams inferior than us are beating us whilst swatting away our archaic tactics with ease. Would signing Kroos and Coentrao change what we do with the ball on the pitch, and our ideas going forward? Our brand of football and our identity on the pitch are abysmal. I can't think of a team in the league right now who plays a worse style of football than us. Not even Stoke. They looked more dangerous than we did, and passed rings around us at times.
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This is why even the signing of Mata didn't give that much hope.
 
He has to go. That was one of the most clueless performances I've ever seen. It's either 8-9 players of which 4-5 are World Class being coincidentally clueless or the drowning little Scotsman who's "leading" them.

This is an abortion.
 
An Irish Red said:
People will laugh at this but I honestly don't think he's any better than the likes of Martin O'Neill. I honestly don't.

It's like a manager of a McDonalds being given full control of nike this. He's woefully out of his depth.
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:nono: It's like a lorry driver being hired by Ferrari as a F1 driver. Only he's come in and sacked the entire crew and replaced them with the mechanics from the local garage. Instead of Schumacher (Fergie), we get Dave from the truck stop.
 
charleysurf said:
We're not Chelsea, as much as plenty on here wish we were.
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No clearly not, we're Manchester United and we have our head so far up our ass, we won't be firing this guy even if he brings us down to relegation. Absolutely fantastic football he is playing, wonder what the excuse is now, he had RVP, Rooney and Mata and he still make Stoke look like the better team.

There is no fight in this team, there is no danger, they have no backbone and just look like a hopeless bunch of scared losers. What difference from last year were these players we're dominating the league for the 3th season in a row. Absolutely fantastic work Moyes, keep it up !
 
Just stop with the 4-4-2 already. Drop Rooney deeper, the fecker can cry as much as he wants but he is useless so far up front when he sees no balls at all. We acutally played good football when he was in midfield.
 
Feeky Magee said:
Moyes: "We played well today, I don't know what I have to do to win. We should have won, it was a good performance."

ACTUAL DAVID MOYES QUOTE. I just. What. I.
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Jesus fecking christ. I expect him to come out with some bollocks about playing well or something which is fair enough. Keep all criticism behind closed doors and all that but the 'I don't know what I have to do to win' line. Has he had no media training at all? He's well out of his depth.
 
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Manchester United manager David Moyes: "I don't know what we have to do to win.
"I thought we were extremely unlucky. We played well in difficult conditions but we have lost to one wicked deflection and one worldy.
"But we should have been out of sight with the amount of opportunities we had today and we only have ourselves to blame."
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charleysurf said:
You talk about "top clubs" like they are all interchangeable. Like there is no difference in culture between United, City and Chelsea.
And for many posters on here I guess that's true...

But everything United have done, in appointing Moyes on a long contract, indicates a willingness to give him to time to build his own team.
I'm sure he'll given the summer to do that. If that means United are not Chelsea, and not City, then maybe some posters need to deal with that.
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And that we surely would have done had Moyes not guided the Champions to 7th place, and likely to miss out on fourth place by a large distance. You have some obsession with United being like City or Chelsea when really it's just a manager doing beyond terrible at his job.
 
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