Except they did become average on his watch?
Moyes So Far!
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He has to go regardless of the result on Wednesday. We're only prolonging the pain otherwise. I think he is out of his depth at United. He is nothing but an AVERAGE coach with little less than no charisma. I wouldn't want him to spend any money on anyone nor do I wish to hear anything about his 'plans and objectives' as they're stone age. Also as I am not British I'm not falling for this Scotsman bullshit. I could not care less what bloody nationality out coach is when more than half of our team are bloody foreigners. How ridiculously outlandish to have chosen this person over Mourinho, it's just insane.
Januzaj really is our only player of united quality in the front 6 outside of Rvp and Rooney.
People saying to give him time - why when the team show zero ability to do the basics in football?
The performances have been shocking since day one. Defending is getting worse, our attacking play is comically poor (as i type this i watch another aimless cross into the box). Why anyone would think this guy can turn it around is beyond me.
Do the team need rebuilding? No doubt. Should we be significantly better than what we are right now? Damn fecking right. Moyes has got shit loads to answer for.
Last point, we concede yet again right after half time - the time when the managers instructions should be ringing in their ears. He has to question why he fails to have an impact on these players
The performances have been shocking since day one. Defending is getting worse, our attacking play is comically poor (as i type this i watch another aimless cross into the box). Why anyone would think this guy can turn it around is beyond me.
Do the team need rebuilding? No doubt. Should we be significantly better than what we are right now? Damn fecking right. Moyes has got shit loads to answer for.
Last point, we concede yet again right after half time - the time when the managers instructions should be ringing in their ears. He has to question why he fails to have an impact on these players
Like all the players losing more and more confidence in making the 4th spot, we'll lose our best players next summer.Losing with a better performance would have been better than what has happened. 5th or 6th is the best we could hope for this season
Just get the checkbook out get Klopp and Gundogan...
We wont make CL next summer So they better have a plan in motion to get us back in it... Moyes aint the right man, he's already on borrowed time so just get a plan in motion right now.. No need to keep doing this rubbish anymore!
We wont make CL next summer So they better have a plan in motion to get us back in it... Moyes aint the right man, he's already on borrowed time so just get a plan in motion right now.. No need to keep doing this rubbish anymore!
Rumour of severance package is its a set amount regardless of how long left
His record away in big games does not lie. That has continued since he took over here.
I really have tried to stick by him, but look at us out there. Do they look like a team playing for the manager? Slag them off all you want, Valencia, evra, whoever, but they won the league last year. We appointed a manager with no away wins against the top teams, with no record of winning anything, and no record in Europe. We've always had a certain arrogance, 'we're united, we do things our way' like with transfers and assuming players will want to join us. Everyone said it should be mourinho, but we didn't even give him an interview. Well that arrogance is starting to bite us back.
In the last five games 4 defeats 1 win. For Manchester United .......
You reckon Moyes gave them any?
One of the other problems with Moyes is he has no pull whatsoever with the sort of players we need to be signing.
We struggled to sign top players under Fergie, though mostly due to our ''high moral horse'' that players should want to play for United because we're United, despite other clubs offering 50% higher pay packets and equal chances of trophy glory.
With Moyes and no CL it is going be nigh on impossible.
We need a manager who is an attraction to top players.
Clever of Moyes then to spunk out 28m on Fellaini so as to make it difficult for us to afford even the set amount
Ha ha. Doesn't look like it!
Considering the shambolic summer transfer window, followed by what appears to be little to no movement by us this transfer window, I'm no convinced we should take heart that his transfer strategy is something to look forward to, or see any hope in.
I'm not calling for his head at this point, but, I'm having a hard time envisioning a bright future under Moyes.
Really? Where did you hear that?
That's pretty shocking to be fair.
I've been banging the "Moyes Out" drum with a while and I still am, but do it in the summer.
Not out some misguided hope that he'll turn things around but I don't want a new manager being saddled with this shít mid-season when there's nothing left to salvage.
Sack Moyes on the 11th of May, have a new manager lined up and give him the whole summer so he can try to rebuild this mess.
Not out some misguided hope that he'll turn things around but I don't want a new manager being saddled with this shít mid-season when there's nothing left to salvage.
Sack Moyes on the 11th of May, have a new manager lined up and give him the whole summer so he can try to rebuild this mess.
To give him 6 years was a big mistake.
All this started in June when for some fecking reason the club decided that Moyes wasnt to do anything until July 1st. So a whole month went by in the summer with nothing achieved or targets worked on. What sort of fecking succession plan was that? Now we are playing catch up with a lesser manager. And that cnut Woodward is never interviewed on television.
No they didn't. This was an average team last season, one that was carried by our few top players and a brilliant manager. It was also lucky that our title rivals were relatively poor. If you'd given this squad to any other manager last season we wouldn't have won the league.
Even if we do end up sacking Moyes and bringing in some brilliant manager, this team still needs a major overhaul. The squad is the worst it has been since the Djemba Djemba years.
Not like people haven't been pointing out our declining quality over the last few years either, we've been papering over the cracks for a while now.
Perhaps we should have played 5 in midfield? We used to do that in away games in our pomp, so why not now, when we're so much more porous on defense?
There would still be room for Januzaj out wide.
There would still be room for Januzaj out wide.
It doesn't even make any sense. You could understand the club having to meet the demand of top manager for the financial security of a long term contract, but Moyes surely would have accepted almost any sort of deal to get his hands on the United job.
I'm not going to say this because he just scored, but why didn't Moyes start Hernandez ? He has the best striker's record against them, and all those lost balls into the box would have found him more often than not. But hey, I'm not United manager, what do I know.
No they didn't.
Which you know because I remember you constantly criticising and moaning about this team under Ferguson.
A win is a must in every game.
The more I see, the more I wonder if he's a 'patsy' of sorts. Whoever took over from Ferguson was always going to be a bit screwed, but this way the Glazer's have made a sensible choice, led by SAF, given him a whole season and when it doesn't work out, then they can bring a 'savior' manager who will have no pressure on them at all.
The big issue is that Klopp aside, there really aren't any world class managers doing nothing at the moment, and we'd really want a younger one who could shape their own squad.
The big issue is that Klopp aside, there really aren't any world class managers doing nothing at the moment, and we'd really want a younger one who could shape their own squad.
Well at least Hernandez has given Moyes a base to build his excuses on after the match. It'll be that and the fact we had a lot of the ball in the first half. And everything will be rosy.
I think his appointment deflated most of the squad. If it had been Mourinho for example there would have been new signings and energised the squad, but Moyes doesn't come with a reputation of winning, or attractive football, and the players just haven't cared since day one.
It was retarded, give a manager who wasn't a sure choice, someone who has never won anything and has been a defensive manager a 6 year contract? Makes no sense.
A couple of years to start with in order to test him if he is truly the right man for the job and then a huge extension if that was the case. 6 years from the get go is shackling yourself with him and making it a big financial loss if there is the temptation to replace him with a better manager.
Well if things continue he wont last more than 1. The Glazers wont accept mediocrity.
Today, like against the other top teams, has highlighted Moyes lack of tactical ability. In all games he has been tactically inept and shown up. Take today Jose set his team up to get us on the break while Moyes has been naive and tried to go all out only to be picked off.
I mean going a 442 away to Chelsea is just stupid. Why does he feel like he has to take the game to them was just asking for it given the players we have. I think Moyes deserves a year and full summer for transfers but he really isn't helping himself
It was to make this big statement to the media about 'stability' and tradition. Based on nothing else but that. Should have been 3 years.
I think the 6 year contract indicates that they clearly had a lot of faith in him, although if he was to go at the end of this season then the new manager would find himself in a good position when he came in. Like you say, I have no idea who it'd be though.
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