Thus leaving our arguably best player out of the first eleven and even out of the bench. Nice.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Thus leaving our arguably best player out of the first eleven and even out of the bench. Nice.
Valencia is not our best player.
He is a great player but certainly not our best player IMO.
Yeah I did accidentally overlook Valencia on the bench. He aint our best player though, not even the best at the club in his position
I bloody hope Kagawa isn't played as a left midfielder, he's never played there.
He's playing on the left side for Japan.
I guess it all depends on what role he's asked to play.
If its as a traditional winger then it could be a disaster. But if it's as a wide playmaker who has the licence to drift inside, then it could be interesting.
Not the same way United play. Japan don't play 442
lets give Valencia number 7 and tell him he doesn't even fit the bench.
Rory Smith from The Times saying the bid is well sourced, and multi sourced. Filed it late last night which is why it's not online yet.
Cock sneaking out slowly...
Cock sneaking out slowly...
It'd be a bit embarrassing if we bought him for £25million when Porto picked him up for less than £10million only a year or two ago. Why didn't we get him then?
Looks like the reports about a bid might be legit..
Soo.. which club will pip us to this one then?
You are embarrassed very easily. He wasnt going anywhere with Sporting. Made the step up after joining Porto. (supposedly... I havent been following his career)
Rio, Berbatov, Carrick, Young, Valencia, etc.
It'd be the same with Modric. It's not a new thing, and not embarrassing.
Is The Times reliable anymore though?
Oh noes, competition from Spurs
Oh noes, competition from Spurs
Is The Times reliable anymore though?
Oh noes, competition from Spurs
we lost bale to spurs. it's not that funny.
One 18 year old player who thought he wouldn't be able to get game time here? Hardly comparable.
That article starts off talking about a bid from us and then spends three-quarters of its length discussing Tottenham's entire transfer activity, before mentioning at the end that we've also bid for Moutinho as if it had forgotten that's how the article started!
Does anyone know/remember why Queiroz dropped him from the Portugal team? I remember his as one of Scolari's players, but then he disappeared (internationally speaking, I don't see much of the Portuguese league)
That's journalism for you. No idea why he felt the need to discuss Spurs' goalkeeping situation. That is what I was thinking. Without the Spurs stuff the article wouldn't have been that long. Just edited it now to remove the bit about Spurs' transfer activity.I'm pretty sure the offer of Champions League Football, playing for one of the worlds top sides and the biggest club, being managed by a legend, team mate Nani, and a higher wage should swing it.
AVB failed at Chelsea. Moutinio would be taking a chance of success at Spurs.
A quick scout round the Portuguese press suggests they've been talking about a United bid for a few days. Maybe the British press didn't take it seriously until they heard that Spurs think they're bidding against us?
That's the modern day article for you. Journalist posts the story on twitter and has a mad rush to get the article up then
I think the spurs challenge is relevant, especially because of AVB. He is clearly a fan and good friend of Moutinho, and spurs will still be able to offer a significant pay increase than what hes on at Porto.
I would not be shocked if he did choose 2 go there, but surely if you are ambitious enough you would choose utd over spurs.
I would not be shocked if he did choose 2 go there, but surely if you are ambitious enough you would choose utd over spurs.
Is The Times reliable anymore though?
Oh noes, competition from Spurs
Can't see Spurs being interested in Moutinho unless Modric leaves. So if we want Moutinho and strike quickly - I can't see Spurs making a bid
A. I hope we don't see Kagawa being played out on the wing, he's an AM and hopefully will be played as that.
B. No place for Valencia, our double Player of the Year?
He's not the chosen one. He's just a very naughty boy.
If we sign Moutinho we will have had a brilliant transfer window, I'd be very confident of us challenging on all fronts in the coming season.
Is he THAT good?
If Madrid sign Modric and its followed by Spurs signing Moutinho, there will be lot of gloom in here!
I love the way that starts off as a statement and ends as a question. A Questment.
Would be an excellent signing and one that I was calling for whilst he was still as Sporting(would have saved us so much money if we'd gone in then), however lets hope nobody shows him the weather in Manchester today.
Did you play a lot of Football Manager then?
Very arguable. We all know how much Fergie loves his traditional wingers. I think as long as Antonio can stay fit, he will be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Would you prefer to spend £10m on a player who has raw potential, but unproven at a top level. Or sign a player for £20m/£25m who has proven him self to play to the same level and beyond as proven world class midfielders?
The fact that AVB is now at Spurs may prove as a huge incentive for Moutinho. Not sure how close they are though.
I think it's more that the rest of the team is THAT good, and Moutinho will just fill an important hole in the squad.
Well I am not too sure. It certainly seems that there was little interest until he played very well against Spain. That said, after we were twice embarrased against Barca's midfield in the biggest club game of them all, maybe that performance says a lot about what Moutinho will bring to our team.
Completely different circumstances. Bale was 17/18 years old, unproven and felt he would be playing reserve team footie at United for several years before he got even a sniff of the first team.
Moutinho has just come off the back of a Euro's where he was Portugals' best player after Ronaldo, and he commands respect. With that in mind, if given a straight choice between the 2 clubs, it would be a no brainer for him.
Well he's good, he's no Schweinstiger or Yaya or whatever, but he'd fill an important hole in our midfield. We need a midfielder who can compliment Carrick in a 4-5-1 system, and of course, play in the 'two man midfield' that we love doing, and I think he'd be able to do that very effectively.
I think he would improve things massively, but part of that is down to how poor our midfield currently is. He'd be a good signing for the club.
Why aren't we interested in Yaya Toure?