Pep didn't nurture Bayern's players, he sent Hojbjerg on loan and let Weiser go on a free. Pep isn't better with young players than Mourinho and he barely signs them.
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Pep didn't nurture Bayern's players, he sent Hojbjerg on loan and let Weiser go on a free. Pep isn't better with young players than Mourinho and he barely signs them.
I'm getting tired of this "he's the right man" schtick. Dude, you said that about Louis, stop acting like you know.
Imagine the meltdown when people realise they've jumped the gun, and LVG is here to stay for next season too.
That's a bit surreal. Anyway, by my understanding talks are still to take place. And talks don't always go as planned.The meltdown if LVG was announced as staying on for one more season would be incredible on here
That was my thinking as well. The United board cannot very well come out and validate such a comment with regards to LVG's future, as I'm pretty sure there would be legal implications involved. LVG is still United manager, for now at least, and until that changes the board should and very likely will remain hush hush on the matter.
Then the same people calling it classless would have hoped that the classless route would have been the best to take.Imagine the meltdown when people realise they've jumped the gun, and LVG is here to stay for next season too.
So is it off again?
Yup thats my thinking exactly. There's been no statement or anything from United about the future of LvG as of yet, and they couldn't not acknowledge that comment by LvG.
They're not going to come out and say "Yes Louis van Gaal has left Manchester United by mutual consent" in the wake of an "It's Over" comment. They had to acknowledge it somehow and saying he meant the season is over is a good reason.
Of course not.
Yep, you're right. Apparently, he played one minute against Real Murcia.
fecking hell. You can argue about Pep's youth policy at Bayern but you have to be a moron to think he's not better with young players than Mourinho.
Oh feck off. I was on my way back from London and got to Houston about 20 minutes after that tweet.
I'm hoping Mourinho has had time to reflect and, understanding the job he's taking, proves to use youth more than he's been known for. He'll surely use Rashers.
He really wanted the job.
Gotta love the Arsenal dig as well.
Can't wait for the Arsenal fixtures. Hope Wenger is around next year.You wouldn't have bumped into them at the airport anyway mate.
Hope after all the mutual handjobs over the years, Mourinho does actually turn to Fergie for advice over running United.
Yep. Not official yet though
It is essentially: Robben, Obi-Mikel, Ozil, Santon, Balotelli and Varane against Pedro, Busquets, Pique, Alaba and Thiago. These are the only young players which they consistently played during their spells at various clubs. A very similar record, with both of them playing many other players for some matches, but not making them important parts of their team.
Both of them are quite bad at it, but then the only successful managers who have been good with young players are Fergie, LvG and Wenger.
How the feck do they know what he meant? Did they chase him home to go ask him?
No idea but it seems like they are desperate to get ahead of the other Journalists by posting anything new Utd related.How the feck do they know what he meant? Did they chase him home to go ask him?
Just on all this talk about the media, and the comparisons to the Moyes sacking, intimating the club have leaked it. A few months after the sacking of Moyes a very well known journalist was on TV in the North West (sorry can't remember his name) and made it clear that the club leaked nothing about the Moyes sacking, that it was down to 'good old fashioned journalism' of chasing contacts down and putting two and two together. They then asked Woodward directly if Moyes would be manager on Monday - leaving Woody with the choice of confirming, denying or stalling. He stalled and the rumours ran. Of course had he confirmed then the club would have leaked it - had he denied then in 24 hours they'd have been shown to lie. I suspect something like this has happened again. I don't believe the club, or Mendes has leaked - as others have said there's nothing for either of them to gain.
I'll reply properly when I'm back home but that post is a crock of shit.
When you're asked with a Yes/no questions,
You really have no way to go.
Yes = yes
no = no
no answer = yes or no, depending on what they want to write
You really have no way to go.
Yes = yes
no = no
no answer = yes or no, depending on what they want to write
Exactly, Essien and Di Maria were also younger than Pedro and he gave Morata and Nacho their debuts. At the end of the day neither are exceptional with young players.
By the way Alaba was an established player under Heynckes.
WhoopsYour arrogance is always a joy to read.
I'm all for magnanimity mate, especially now most of us have got the outcome we want, but surely he'll be looked upon as a failure.
He's spent £250 in two years - that's almost 50% of Ferguson's entire spend during his 26 years in charge. And yet we've finished up outside the CL places, in a year when all the traditionally strong clubs have been poor. For a club of United's size and resources, finishing outside the CL places is a complete joke.
United have put in some good performances under LVG (Liverpool away and City at home last year, Arsenal at home this season) but it's hard to remember a single five-star performance, a single game in which United played to the very summit of their ability.
LVG has been a hugely influential figure in modern football but his best days are long behind him and his shortcomings have been brutally exposed at United.
3 years of tumescent football? How did we need that ?
If only it had only been £250
If only it had only been £250
Indeed.If only it had only been £250
Good post.
Difference is that at both Barca and Bayern Guardiola inherited a core of young, homegrown players who already had plenty of experience. Messi, for example, was only 21 when Guardiola arrived yet he'd already been in the first-team squad for four years and become established; it was hardly a gamble to play him. Mourinho has never really had that.
If we do get Jose I hope people are not expecting immediate success. It's not magic it's football and it will take some time for them to find that sweet spot. It's going to be super annoying to see people complain after the first game. Some people are complaining already and it's not even official yet.
I was just looking this up actually (stuck at work today and needed a distraction).
As you suggest Foolsgold, Guardiola gave a lot of players debuts but he's only really given regular starts to four players as far as I can see: Busquets, Pedro, Thiago and Rafinha.
A lot of players, like Jeffren Suarez, Marc Muniesa and Jonathan Dos Santos and Pierre Hojbjerg, have been given the odd game here and there. Others, like Sergi Roberto, were given debuts by Guardiola but didn't really become regular fixtures until he'd left.
The idea that Guardiola is amazing with young players is, it seems, a complete misconception.
Without looking it up, I'd guess Martín Montoya also fits your criteria unless I'm getting years mixed up. He played Isaac Cuenca and Cristian Tello a fair bit in his final season too, it's possible that would have continued if Pep hadn't left.
Which I think is a big chunk of youth to bring through over 4 years at Barcelona. I don't really know what you expect if that's not amazing. You're never going to see 11 new youth players starting every year.
His record at Bayern isn't as good though.
You have your own space shuttle?
Is this meant to make any sense?
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